To think workplaces are getting more and more insane

[CurdinHenry]

As more and more of them promote idiots well beyond their capabilities?

Too vague OP.

Might help if you said a bit more.

For some people, they are promoted to their level of incompetence 😂

Oh god yes- not sure how much more bs I can take. Email yesterday from HR consultant who wanted to meet but wasn’t actually sure what about 🙄 or what my role is.

Not sure if this is what you are talking about but recently had a conversation about the levels of stupid middle management in my work. There are now 6 levels of leadership where we used to have 2. No increase in staff.
It just makes doing anything more complicated. Also the amount of people doing the actual job is reduced as they are all in these leadership roles so the brunt of the job goes onto the lower levels of staff.

This is all in an industry having mass redundancies due to underfunding. Ahh it does my fucking head in.

Thanks for the rant space and sorry if this was not actually the point if the thread.

This seems a bit of a broad point to make. You think all workplaces everywhere are promoting people beyond their abilities?

I do feel at the moment companies are exploiting the fact the market is awful to treat their employees like shit. You see this in everything from the way bosses treat junior staff to recruitment. There’s a total lack of respect for human dignity in the way employers treat the process of hiring. Leaving people in the dark for weeks and months because they know they don’t need to follow up (because people are desperate).

A lot of us wont forget when the tide turns and the economy improves how badly we were treated. There will be a backlash.

In the organization where I used to work there was a general consensus that people were promoted based on their levels of sycophancy to the directors.

With the changes in employment law it will get worse. It's hard enough getting rid of work shy people as it is.

At my work they promote/employ people if they are very cheap. It is the perfect way to recruit ambitious but incompetent men in leadership roles.

I feel you!

Significant number of people at my work being promoted beyond their capabilities due to their abilities to pay lip service to seniors. I then dare to call out anything they’re saying as it’s blocking my ability to do my role and I’m labelled to direct

Yes

I think as minimum.wage has risen there is less incentive to move into junior management as the pay hasn't increased at the same rate. At our place noone wants the team leader type roles as they only pay slightly more than the people they are managing so most good people don't want the extra stress for little reward. The people who do get those roles just like the power and are wholly unsuitable for management in a lot of cases.

At my work we have daily conversations about how many tasks we have done, as though that will improve our speed. We rarely have conversations about the tasks themselves.

Young people - some of them are too lazy and lack any initiative.

My ex-workplace offers so many benefits that people tend not to leave unless it's redundancy. People who have been there for years and years. The amount of times I heard "but we have always done it this way" in response to suggesting we try something else was mental.

I’m seeing it far more where I am now.

Having just been bought by a yank venture capital firm, all the original Exec team “left to pursue other opportunities”, with a fair old wedge in their back pockets. We now have a “C Suite” as the bullshit bingo players like to call it. Chief Exec on £2.8 million and not one of the rest of them on less than £700k a year (plus bonus) and they are fucking useless. The influx of Vice Presidents is a sight to behold, again all fucking useless.

For the first time in 25 years the company has made a significant loss.

I used to say I could never watch 'The Office', as I was, had, seen far worse behaviour and felt it was more like a documentary than a comedy! The worst 'episode' I lived in would be outing, it was such a shower of shit and condoned by 5 layers of management for 2 years. My theory is inept directors love the multi layers of so called management, as it protects their arses from getting walloped!

Absolutely. I've just been made redundant by a complete idiot of a CEO who thought he could use a restructure to get rid of my boss and change my WFH contract to in office. We're both senior managers.

We've both negotiated very generous exit packages and he's realized that he's absolutely screwed when we leave next month unless by some miracle he can get someone half decent to replace us both. Not looking great for him as it's a very niche sector with a ridiculously specific skill set and between us, we have 50+ years of experience.

Luckily for me, my management skills are pretty transferable and various bits of my niche skills are pretty desirable (and rare) so I should get something fairly quickly. And in the meantime, I have my exit package. The CEO is already backtracking somewhat and has asked us both if we'd consider doing some consultancy work for the company if he needs us after our end dates. Dickhead of the first order.

Yes. Definitely in the public sector.

Got to be NHS ICB.

A lot of anecdotal evidence suggests this is indeed the case.

I work in public sector. The standard of management is awful compared to 20+ years ago. Constant transformation, to what? Clueless about frontline work roles. Delusional about need to save money by not providing people with things that they lawfully should receive whilst spending money on 6 figure external consultants to tell them what we would tell them if only they’d asked or state the obvious.

I work in higher education but I know several people in the nhs who have had the similar rants.

This sounds like the NHS, lots of job titles and senior roles managing projects.

Nmc definitely promotes incompetence
Worked with the nurse who had a shocking bed side manner
She was promoted into a nice higher band nurse education role