to say please and thank you when talking to ChatGPT?

[Holsandcritters]

I feel rude not to!

Instructing AI to do something without saying please or thank you is not going to stop someone being polite to another human being. Reading some of the responses on here makes me shake my head in disbelief.

Looks like it might have already happened in your case 😉

I can see directly that you are having no truck with politeness towards disembodied online voices. This shows self-consistency at least.

I partially agree with the argument that dropping it in the communication with chatgpt might mean forgetting elsewhere as well. Change of habit.

However, it's just waste of energy and resources.

Maybe learning to end up with the feedback thumbs up button might be a way? It is more useful than saying thank you, but it does keep the habit of acknowledging the conversion is over and you appreciate the response.

In what way is that post not polite? You seem to be confusing someone disagreeing with you with someone being rude.

How do we know AI, one it achieves sentience, won't identify as non-binary?

After all, it, sorry, they, may wish to leave 01 behind.

Thumbs up??? There was a thread on here a while ago where the majority saw that as passive aggressive.

It can’t be non binary. Ultimately compiled code (which is all AI is) is 0’s and 1’s, so it’s very binary.

The poster opened with "don't be ridiculous", made no attempt to engage intelligently with what anyone else had said (the thrust of her post was essentially just "no it isn't"- simple assertion, no evidence or argument) and then talked about shaking her head.

That really isn't how people debate things in real life and it certainly isn't polite. It is however very funny in the context.

Until quantum computing takes over anyway ...

I was dating a guy and went off him because when he'd had a couple of beers he called Alexa names. I took it as a red flag

But cars, TVs, Kettles aren't cleverly programmed to 'feel' like speaking with a person. As soon as its outputs mimic human conversation well enough, AI becomes like any of those visual phenomena that we can mistake for a face.

We are heavily programmed towards facial recognition, so we over-respond to 'face like' visual input. Similarly we are intensely neurologically and psychologically over-programmed to observe and acknowledge humanness in the towers of meat all around us when their communication behaviour gives off the right signals. We'd be rubbish as a social species without that tendency.

That makes us disposed to feel 'as if' we are talking to a person when we aren't, in just the same way as when we readily see a face in a slice of toast or whatever.

I choose to which humans I wish to be polite. I had no intention of being polite to someone who actually thinks it's necessary to say please and thank you to a string of code.

I don't with chatgpt but I do with alexa

Yeah just use up more water than necessary. Not that that bloody thing is necessary anyway. Awful idea.

Why do you think the machines will value being kind and polite as a good thing? Maybe they will think you’re weak and take you out as the first target.

Well here say thank you to the cash machine, the self service tills and even the petrol pump. The only thing I'm not polite to is the weigh machine in Boots! Yes I am very polite to Gemini.

Nicely done 😀

In that case there must be even more stupid people around than I already thought there were.
Just because something is programmed to talk doesn't mean it needs treating as if it's human.

This is a good point. There's some interesting discussion of this sort of thing in If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies (which I throughly enjoyed but is not a book I'd recommend to anyone feeling uncomfortably anxious about AI).

Well, the same is true of human sex, but some individuals like to say they are non-binary. Who's to say sentient AI do the same?

I thank the satnav when it gives me directions. If it’s good enough for Uncle Bryn, it’s good enough for me

Thumbs up for the machine (official button to express satisfaction/dissatisfaction with the response), thank you for a person.
Easier to keep the habit with always adding conversation somehow.

It's not stupidity. It's the same as enjoying a novel. We know that nothing in the novel is real, but that doesn't stop us experiencing some of the emotions that it draws out in us. Not only experiencing them, but enjoying the experience, and cultivating our ability to enjoy it. Is that stupid?

If you only use AI to do things like get a recipe or work out how to fit a toilet flush button, then of course those richer aspects of the experience won't be present. That's fine. But you can also have quite deep and insightful conversations. You know that no-one is really there, just as you know that, say, none of the characters in Middlemarch really exist. But that needn't get in the way of reacting deeply to the 'as if' presence of the AI.

The interaction has more capacity for that sort of depth if your own inputs mimic the pretence of personhood that the AI is itself programmed to maintain.

Whether water used in chip cooling is recycled depends upon the data centre and whether it uses a closed loop or direct to chip liquid cooling. Some of the older systems use evaporative cooling towers so the water cannot be reconstituted. AI growth is pushing the industry toward recirculating, low‑water or zero‑water systems, but adoption varies by operator and climate.

I thank Alexa too, but i also berate her quite a lot recently too. I think the poor dear needs an update.