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Trooping the colour booing

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theresalighttofindyou · Yesterday 10:54

AIBU to think this was well deserved?

Kate can glower at people as much as she wants but the monarchy is a rotten institution and people are getting more and more annoyed by it

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wordler · Yesterday 17:53

IsawwhatIsaw · Yesterday 17:30

The monarch and royals wield soft power.
The Queen successfully lobbying for a completely unsuitable man- her son - to be trade envoy? There were already serious concerns about his behaviour and suitability.
Then she and Charles lobbying government ministers to secure tax advantages on their vast estates?
the lack of transparency over their vast wealth?
the Royals are a business and their aim is to protect themselves and the wealth.

But that's totally on the politicians who are prepared to let them wield soft power!

The monarch isn't a magical being who hypnotises people into acting against their will.

The monarch can request, suggest, lobby, even demand. However they cannot make the government do anything they don't want to do.

Put the responsibility where it is due.

The politicians and at source the people who choose to elect these politicians.

Dizzydrizzy · Yesterday 17:54

My youngest would have given them the finger at that age. He was rather spirited. I’d love if one of those kids had done the same

Overthehillmum63 · Yesterday 18:06

AmyDudley · Yesterday 11:14

I'm anti monarchy, but booing children is a dick move. Not surprised Kate looked annoyed, I'd be very pissed off and protective if someone was verbally abusive to my children, especially if those children had no say in what they have been born into. Good for her for not pretending to just accept it.

But she did just accept it, she has no choice but to accept it as an occupational hazard. She has no real voice in the royal family.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 18:09

But the children haven't put themselves in that position

No, their parents did, which makes all the "poor Kate, if those were my children..." stuff even more risible.

If she doesn't want her kids subjected to hearing the boos of people who are perfectly entitled to protest and voice their displeasure at an utterly outdated, anachronistic disgrace that she and her kids are very much the living embodiment of, then she can opt out and go live like a normal, albeit extremely privileged, person anyway.

Rather than the endless squabbling about Monarchy vs Presidency etc, how about we simply stick them on an island for 12 months and ignore them completely, give people in the UK a look at what life would be like without them, and then hold a vote on what the institution of HoS should look like going forward?

If the public actually votes for a system whereby we decide to continue to pick a random upper class family, plonk a magic hat on their head, and then inform the citizenry that they are inferior beings to the newly coronated Monarch, and that due to Divine Providence we must then also consider all of their offspring superior and grovel to them and fund their obscene wealth in perpetuity, so be it, bring them back, but lets at least have a full and frank discussion of this being the current status quo, and how utterly ridiculous it is, before we decide to continue on with it.

I'm even willing to leave the Guillotine out of it if the public votes against.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 18:16

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 18:09

But the children haven't put themselves in that position

No, their parents did, which makes all the "poor Kate, if those were my children..." stuff even more risible.

If she doesn't want her kids subjected to hearing the boos of people who are perfectly entitled to protest and voice their displeasure at an utterly outdated, anachronistic disgrace that she and her kids are very much the living embodiment of, then she can opt out and go live like a normal, albeit extremely privileged, person anyway.

Rather than the endless squabbling about Monarchy vs Presidency etc, how about we simply stick them on an island for 12 months and ignore them completely, give people in the UK a look at what life would be like without them, and then hold a vote on what the institution of HoS should look like going forward?

If the public actually votes for a system whereby we decide to continue to pick a random upper class family, plonk a magic hat on their head, and then inform the citizenry that they are inferior beings to the newly coronated Monarch, and that due to Divine Providence we must then also consider all of their offspring superior and grovel to them and fund their obscene wealth in perpetuity, so be it, bring them back, but lets at least have a full and frank discussion of this being the current status quo, and how utterly ridiculous it is, before we decide to continue on with it.

I'm even willing to leave the Guillotine out of it if the public votes against.

Should we be putting people on an island for a year
Im assuming you mean forcing them onto this island as you haven’t mentioned asking them

Isn’t this a rather a Rwanda style policy
when in fact we live in a democracy.

Of note currently the majority want the monarchy. So 🤷‍♀️
and as yet no one’s proved that it wouldn’t lose the country money
So
Another loss maker

FancyBiscuitsLevel · Yesterday 18:19

The “no more Kings” protesters have got larger and louder. They must have expected them to be at the trooping, it was a choice to bring the children anyway.

It will be a very interesting choice if they bring the children to future formal events after this, and it’ll be interesting seeing the Wales fans justify it if the children are booed a second time,

38thparallel · Yesterday 18:21

Op do you hate all rich people, or just the royal family?
If you do hate all rich people, which I suspect you do, at what income level or value of assets do you start to hate them?

ikeepforgetting · Yesterday 18:23

The DM was all over it this morning, but just held my nose and checked and looks like the royal PR team have been whipping things back into shape. Huge beaming pic of Kate now, no scowling to be seen. As you were.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 18:25

and as yet no one’s proved that it wouldn’t lose the country money

This is a completely ridiculous point.

The claim is that the Royals generate income through tourism, yet there is nothing to substantiate this claim whatsoever, and a fair bit to suggest the people themselves are entirely inconsequential.

For a start, it's accepted that the onus falls upon people making claims to substantiate them, not upon doubters to disprove, so to turn it around and ask Republicans to "prove" a Republic wouldn't lose money compared to the status quo, when advocates for the actual status quo can't even substantiate their own claims is palpably ridiculous.

The French disposed of their Royals hundreds of years back, and yet the Palace of Versailles is still one of the most visited tourist attractions on the planet. To my knowledge, people visiting Buckingham Palace do not get a personal meet & greet with a member of the family for simply turning up at the gate, so I see nothing which suggests we'd be any worse off for just doing away with the people and maintaining the buildings.

Sometimessmiling · Yesterday 18:27

Dollymylove · Yesterday 11:23

Who are the booers and why are they booing? Trooping the Colour is on one of our big traditions, attracting big crowds. Anyone who is not happy with it is free to fuck off

Im not happy with it so I will f off then. Fed up with the freeloaders and living a life without the problem of money/work/childcare etc

Grapewrath · Yesterday 18:28

If people want to boo, they’re allowed to. In the same way people are allowed to love the royals. People are entitled to their opinions.
The royals, much like celebs who parade their kids for all to see, had children and made a choice to expose them to the less favourable views that many people hold
i can’t get excited about people booing when their parents literally serve them up to it.
Kate has quite often got a face like a smacked arse but I can’t say I blame her

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 18:30

38thparallel · Yesterday 18:21

Op do you hate all rich people, or just the royal family?
If you do hate all rich people, which I suspect you do, at what income level or value of assets do you start to hate them?

Edited

I don’t mind if they have the same rules as the rest of us, but they don’t. If everyone could hand down wealth untaxed, we’d all be richer.

Sardaukar · Yesterday 18:36

Inherited, stolen, wealth is wrong on every level imaginable.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 18:40

ikeepforgetting · Yesterday 18:23

The DM was all over it this morning, but just held my nose and checked and looks like the royal PR team have been whipping things back into shape. Huge beaming pic of Kate now, no scowling to be seen. As you were.

Is This scowling or as one outlet online called it a ‘furious expression’
🤣

Trooping the colour booing
BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 18:47

XDownwiththissortofthingX · Yesterday 18:25

and as yet no one’s proved that it wouldn’t lose the country money

This is a completely ridiculous point.

The claim is that the Royals generate income through tourism, yet there is nothing to substantiate this claim whatsoever, and a fair bit to suggest the people themselves are entirely inconsequential.

For a start, it's accepted that the onus falls upon people making claims to substantiate them, not upon doubters to disprove, so to turn it around and ask Republicans to "prove" a Republic wouldn't lose money compared to the status quo, when advocates for the actual status quo can't even substantiate their own claims is palpably ridiculous.

The French disposed of their Royals hundreds of years back, and yet the Palace of Versailles is still one of the most visited tourist attractions on the planet. To my knowledge, people visiting Buckingham Palace do not get a personal meet & greet with a member of the family for simply turning up at the gate, so I see nothing which suggests we'd be any worse off for just doing away with the people and maintaining the buildings.

I posted how much the monarchy is deemed to generate upthread

It would be unwise to jump in and get rid of the monarchy on the back of a spurious claim that we will save money or indeed not lose any

Look at Brexit just for starters.
But if anyone has non biased proof ( and I’m guessing someone must have because this one is always thrown about on these threads ) to the contrary
then it would be an interesting read

Ps
Did you see that Versailles are losing money

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 18:57

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 18:47

I posted how much the monarchy is deemed to generate upthread

It would be unwise to jump in and get rid of the monarchy on the back of a spurious claim that we will save money or indeed not lose any

Look at Brexit just for starters.
But if anyone has non biased proof ( and I’m guessing someone must have because this one is always thrown about on these threads ) to the contrary
then it would be an interesting read

Ps
Did you see that Versailles are losing money

Edited

Of note Versailles is at number 49 on the most visited places
and it’s not like people aren’t already in France anyway
Disneyland Paris and Notre Dame are way higher
🤷‍♀️

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 18:58

@BrownTroutBluesAgain One of the problems in establishing the exact financial burden that the Royal Family costs the taxpayer - secrecy.

In this day and age there should not be these cloak and dagger operations around the RF. The contents of their will are not disclosed - even quite minor royals.

We do not know how much their security costs as we are not allowed to know from the Met.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 19:09

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 18:58

@BrownTroutBluesAgain One of the problems in establishing the exact financial burden that the Royal Family costs the taxpayer - secrecy.

In this day and age there should not be these cloak and dagger operations around the RF. The contents of their will are not disclosed - even quite minor royals.

We do not know how much their security costs as we are not allowed to know from the Met.

Agree
this matter went to court

Official Data: Following attempts by press organisations to obtain exact figures, UK courts have ruled that detailed royal security costs cannot be published, as transparency could compromise the safety of the Royal Family.

We either agree with our judicial system or we have to fight against it. It doesn’t seem anyone has on this account

( nevertheless even anti monarchists don’t estimate the figure to even touch the surface of the £££ generated )

MrSchubertWhiskers · Yesterday 19:35

Nofeckingway · Yesterday 15:37

The wealth that you are speaking of is a result of legacy and history . It's not like Charles can sell Buckingham Palace or the Gold Coach to fund anything else . The artefacts belong to the nation . The RF had nothing to do with Grenfell , blame the real culprits who were the developers and builders. As regards Xmas visits would you suggest that they snub the people who wanted to see them . These kids are being brought up to know that it is their duty to respect the traditions and try to be polite and respectful to other people . I think they were also aware that some people don't like the monarchy . What was Kate supposed to do but give an indication that she wasn't happy that her children were verbally abused . To be honest I would have loved Princess Ann to shout Naff Orf once again.

Charles is a billionaire through his private wealth, not the Crown Estate.

Giantmarshmallowbum · Yesterday 19:43

MrSchubertWhiskers · Yesterday 19:35

Charles is a billionaire through his private wealth, not the Crown Estate.

Yes and he’d have half as much if he got taxed like the rest of us!

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 19:44

BrownTroutBluesAgain · Yesterday 19:09

Agree
this matter went to court

Official Data: Following attempts by press organisations to obtain exact figures, UK courts have ruled that detailed royal security costs cannot be published, as transparency could compromise the safety of the Royal Family.

We either agree with our judicial system or we have to fight against it. It doesn’t seem anyone has on this account

( nevertheless even anti monarchists don’t estimate the figure to even touch the surface of the £££ generated )

Edited

The group we have been discussing, Republic: the total cost of the monarchy is about £510m a year.

user1492809438 · Yesterday 19:44

I was largely indifferent to the monarchy until I visited Sandringham last week. There was something 'off' about the place, the indulgence and entitlement coupled with the almost 'reverent' way the guides referred to His Majesty, jarred with me. They live in such luxury at the expense of the taxpayer, despite Sandringham being their private residence, owned by them.

countrylife00 · Yesterday 19:52

MulberryBrandy · Yesterday 19:44

The group we have been discussing, Republic: the total cost of the monarchy is about £510m a year.

The Sovereign Grant for 2025/2026 was 132
million. According to economists The Royal Family generated income of 1.8 billion.
You must be Rachel Reeves - about to cost us another crap load of money, suggesting to get rid of them.
Look at the broader picture.

MinglyMadly · Yesterday 19:57

PistachioTiramisu · Yesterday 12:15

The monarchy is NOT a 'rotten institution' - you really shouldn't let your jealousy cloud your thoughts. I think they are great, and Saturday's parade just showed how good this country is at pageantry and events like these. Just look at how few people were 'protesting' compared with the huge, cheering crowds approaching Buckingham Palace!

And it brings in huge revenue to the economy through tourism.

MinglyMadly · Yesterday 19:58

countrylife00 · Yesterday 19:52

The Sovereign Grant for 2025/2026 was 132
million. According to economists The Royal Family generated income of 1.8 billion.
You must be Rachel Reeves - about to cost us another crap load of money, suggesting to get rid of them.
Look at the broader picture.

These Royal haters never do. 🙄