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to be utterly sick of protests, marches, rallies, and riots

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NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 01:47

What happened today in Belfast was dreadful. Of course it was.

When Sarah Everard died, there were marches. But a day before she died, an Indian woman Sarah's age was knifed to death in the street in Leicestershire. It was an "honour" killing, I think.

Where was HER lantern on the doorstep of Downing Street? Where was HER march?

My point is, dreadful things happen every day and I am so sick and tired of news items sparking so much public rowdiness. It used to be that the media could report on current events without starting a riot. I know that we have always had riots, but they were the occasional one. And because they were not common, they helped effect change. They were a desperate measure reserved for when nothing else had helped.

Now, together with marches, rallies, and protests, society is constantly disrupted, and I am so, so sick of it. I live in a major city and I can't go anywhere without checking what march, rally, protest, or riot is happening, especially at the weekends. And they are so common that they don't help effect change anymore.

The riots are terrible. Thousands and thousands of pounds' worth of lost property in fires, injured bystanders, police calld away from other duties to attend them. And there are "professional" rabble-rousers who travel to marches, protests, and riots. It's not because they're passionate about a cause. They're just passionate about causing trouble.

I travel for work to major American cities and it's even worse over there. Another day, another riot/protest/march/rally.

They have become a feature of today's society, and I wish they would just stop.

Edit: I actually stay in more because of them. I don't go out of my hotel as much when staying in America, and I don't go to the city centre where I live as much. It's so bad when regular people are put off from walking around city centres because of all these annoying dickheads.

I think it is worse in America, and I'm tired of feeling scared to go out when there, in case I run into an uncontrolled crowd - where the police have guns, and the protestors might, depending on the state.

The burning buildings in Belfast are a disgrace. It's not the owners' fault that this happened.

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Velumental · Yesterday 08:06

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:04

Your experience of the attack and your injuries would be the same but I think there is a particular anger that comes from the feeling that something could have been prevented and it wasn’t. Whether that’s because they were a rapist who was granted bail, a violent psychiatric patient who wasn’t detained or a mentally ill criminal ñ who shouldn’t have been in the country in the first place.

When British men commit dreadful crimes we have to accept it as we’re stuck with them. When we invite additional violent men into the country I think it’s reasonable to recognise that was a mistake and there is a particular horror in recognising that but for the decision to allow them to remain the incident would not have happened.

You don't think the entitlement and culture of a white man who went to boarding school could have been changed to avoid him attacking later? It was inevitable was it?

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:07

sittingonabeach · Yesterday 08:06

Someone posted earlier that some of these protests will die down whilst the football is on. I would bet some of these thugs will be ones beating up their wives as the rate of DV goes up during football tournaments especially when their team loses. Will people be protesting/rioting about that?

I mentioned the DV rates increasing.

It got ignored. Because these people do not care one ounce about women and children

PinkMagpie · Yesterday 08:08

Where has this strawman argument about women and children come from?

The riots are in specific response to someone nearly being beheaded on the street

Ihatetomatoes · Yesterday 08:08

Protests are happening on local issues (Henry Nowak killing) and on what's happening thousands of miles away (Palestinian). Those people all believe they isn't change things by protesting. None of them care about how it affects others. These Protests dont appear to.cgangw anything much though, they appear to increase hatred for a section of society.

Violent protesting is even worse, does nothing useful.

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:09

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 07:58

Again, there are multiple examples of (mainly) women being killed by white men in unprovoked attacks that have drawn none of this level of attention.

I just wish people would call it what it is. At least a couple of posters on here have admitted they see crime as better and more acceptable when it’s committed by white men.

I can’t think of any examples of an attempt being made by anyone to publicly execute any man or women regardless of colour except for the Lee Rigby murder.

Can you give an example?

Other than that the nearest i can get to is the Sarah Everard murder where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly and there were many demonstrations.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 08:09

Greenwitchart · Yesterday 07:55

OP we live in a democratic country with freedom of expression (and many people throughout history had to fight for us to have that right now) so of course people are allowed to protest.

Riots and violence are never acceptable, but peaceful protests are an essential tool for people to remind politicians that our views matter.

Without protests women would not have the vote for example...

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The peaceful protests of yesteryear that asked for a specific feasible thing like votes for women are a far cry from the never-ending civil unrest we have today that numbers in the tens or hundreds of thousands and has no clear or stated aim except to create anarchy.

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m1ghtl1ke · Yesterday 08:09

Meadowfinch · Yesterday 02:08

People are angry at things that are happening every day. The protests are their way of telling politicians to get off their backsides and make the necessary changes. Or would you rather everyone was quiet and obedient, and people continued to be abused daily while the authority looked the other way and pretended it wasn't happening?
Of course building and property damage is not good, protest should be peaceful, but protest needs to happen when things are not right.

Without protest, women wouldn't have the vote, grooming gangs would still be an open secret and the Equalities Act wouldn't exist.

Protest and riots are different thing. Certainly march but burning cars and homes isn’t going to help anything

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:10

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:09

I can’t think of any examples of an attempt being made by anyone to publicly execute any man or women regardless of colour except for the Lee Rigby murder.

Can you give an example?

Other than that the nearest i can get to is the Sarah Everard murder where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly and there were many demonstrations.

Demonstrations being the key word.

Farage actively called for the police to be protected in the wake of her murder and called for calm.

You’re literally proving my entire point. This lot who go out burning shit down when it’s brown people doing the killing could not care less when it’s white people doing the killings.

MojoMoon · Yesterday 08:10

ForSnappySwan · Yesterday 08:01

Let's be honest - the 'anti racists' are just angry at their own racism which conflicts with the story they tell themselves that they are good people.

It's all projection.

And them calling other people stupid for following Tommy Robinson or Elon Musk is absurd when these people are following whatever they're told to think by the establishment left media (ie the BBC).

What an absolute word salad.

Hang on, let's get this clear

Good people (racists): kick in the doors of people entirely unrelated to the crime that has been committed and set homes and buses on fire and say I am a good person for doing it

Bad people (anti racists): say setting homes on fire is bad but say I am a good person for saying that.

And it's the second group who are the problem?

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 08:11

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:09

I can’t think of any examples of an attempt being made by anyone to publicly execute any man or women regardless of colour except for the Lee Rigby murder.

Can you give an example?

Other than that the nearest i can get to is the Sarah Everard murder where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly and there were many demonstrations.

where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly

I can't make any sense of this sentence. Can you put it another way?

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Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 08:12

PinkMagpie · Yesterday 08:08

Where has this strawman argument about women and children come from?

The riots are in specific response to someone nearly being beheaded on the street

If you read the thread title and the original post it was about riots and protests in general not just the most recent one. Although the situation in Belfast is particularly awful right now.
And even in Belfast where a man was attacked some of the online rumours were that a child was the victim (they weren't) and people kept referencing women and children not being safe.

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:13

PinkMagpie · Yesterday 08:08

Where has this strawman argument about women and children come from?

The riots are in specific response to someone nearly being beheaded on the street

Is it a strawman? The people going out rioting are the ones who shout “protect our women and children!!!” when asked why they want immigration to fall.

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 08:14

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:09

I can’t think of any examples of an attempt being made by anyone to publicly execute any man or women regardless of colour except for the Lee Rigby murder.

Can you give an example?

Other than that the nearest i can get to is the Sarah Everard murder where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly and there were many demonstrations.

There were the Northern Irish two policemen that were hanged. There are more recent cases to. Buts that the first that comes to my mind.

MojoMoon · Yesterday 08:14

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:09

I can’t think of any examples of an attempt being made by anyone to publicly execute any man or women regardless of colour except for the Lee Rigby murder.

Can you give an example?

Other than that the nearest i can get to is the Sarah Everard murder where the abduction was going later out retrospectively publicly and there were many demonstrations.

What does that last paragraph mean?!

In your view, what makes a killing a public execution as opposed to a common murder?

  1. It's got to happen in a public place
  2. ?
Gladystheimpaler · Yesterday 08:14

I, and a million other millenials, learned protest does nothing during the Iraq war. The largest protest in UK history, 700,000 people, with a clear aim - the UK should not support the US in a phony war. The protest was replicated across many countries in Europe. It was peaceful, "All police leave in the capital was cancelled for the event, though Scotland Yard later said that it passed off almost without incident."[44]

It did nothing, because government's don't base their decisions on protests.

15 February 2003 Iraq War protests - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_Iraq_War_protests#cite_note-44

Crocsarentslippers · Yesterday 08:15

Paravion011 · Yesterday 07:48

You might want to buckle up - it’s going to get worse, until the government genuinely listens to people’s legitimate concerns, and decisively acts.

The left wing are destroying the country - brick by brick.

Do I have the post the stats again?

Net migration is down

Small boat crossings are down

More asylum cases are being processed and refused. With people being deported.

Most of the current 'crisis' is due to right wing Brexit lies and subsequent arrogance in negotiations.

The public are being listened to, Labour are working hard on what they know to be a serious issue, but they have to act responsibly and legally.

Reform and Restore or just shit stirring from the sidelines, whipping up hatred and civil unrest. They don't care about this country; Farage is barely here and doesn't attend parliament most of the time, and Tice lives in Dubai. Rupert Lowe constantly embarrases himself with his ludicrous claims.

It's upsetting to see so many triggered and played people in the 'Belfast' threads, practically celebrating people being burned out of their houses.

ForSnappySwan · Yesterday 08:15

MojoMoon · Yesterday 08:10

What an absolute word salad.

Hang on, let's get this clear

Good people (racists): kick in the doors of people entirely unrelated to the crime that has been committed and set homes and buses on fire and say I am a good person for doing it

Bad people (anti racists): say setting homes on fire is bad but say I am a good person for saying that.

And it's the second group who are the problem?

The people setting fire to homes are being whipped up first by someone trying to behead someone else on the street, and then by the media and politicians responding to that by telling us that racism is the worst thing anyone can be.

If you REALLY want the riots to stop, you'll condemn the policies that allowed these people to come here, condemn those that downplay their crimes and support full and frank discussions about what to do about it.

NameChangeMay2026 · Yesterday 08:15

m1ghtl1ke · Yesterday 08:09

Protest and riots are different thing. Certainly march but burning cars and homes isn’t going to help anything

Except the marches and protests are constant and are also absolutely huge, thanks to social media and professional anarchists. Tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands. It's got beyond a joke. The sheer size of a march can mean it's not peaceful given that its size causes so many problems.

Demonstrations are better, and they should be held in London's huge parks, instead of gridlocking huge swathes of cities meaning that ambulances etc. can't get through and people's lives are constantly, constantly disrupted.

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DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:16

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:05

And there it is.

You are happy to accept crime as long as it is from white men.

You do not give a shit about women and children.

Don’t be absurd - you’re not even attempting to discuss this in good faith.

the point - if you had an ounce of reading comprehension is that people understandably get angry when they feel a tragedy could have been prevented.

the easiest way to prevent a brutal attack is to ensure the person who commits the brutal attack is not present.

That’s not about race it’s about location. The fact you’d assume that the criminals on bail and violent psychiatric patients that I referenced were black speaks to your own bias and racism.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 08:16

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 07:35

No. It isn’t.

But thanks for exposing that you think VAWAG is worse when it’s not committed by a white British man.

And here it is. Ladies and gentleman.

Bringing in rapists and murderer is on par with homegrown ones. Apparently. We must sacrifice public safety at the altar of woke by actively increasing the numbers of violent criminals in the country.

This is on par with the argument you see on this very forum from rape apologists who say that increased rape and sexual assault is a price worth paying for progressive causes like open borders.

Pinkbus · Yesterday 08:18

People should get angry at injustice. Peacegul protest never hers action. It would be better if some of the anger was more rational, and not just directed in the places certian people direct, often for their own ends, but we're really in trouble if people stop.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 08:18

Crocsarentslippers · Yesterday 08:15

Do I have the post the stats again?

Net migration is down

Small boat crossings are down

More asylum cases are being processed and refused. With people being deported.

Most of the current 'crisis' is due to right wing Brexit lies and subsequent arrogance in negotiations.

The public are being listened to, Labour are working hard on what they know to be a serious issue, but they have to act responsibly and legally.

Reform and Restore or just shit stirring from the sidelines, whipping up hatred and civil unrest. They don't care about this country; Farage is barely here and doesn't attend parliament most of the time, and Tice lives in Dubai. Rupert Lowe constantly embarrases himself with his ludicrous claims.

It's upsetting to see so many triggered and played people in the 'Belfast' threads, practically celebrating people being burned out of their houses.

Lie.

Illegal immigration, especially small boat numbers are are record highs. We have more illegal migration now than we had legal migration in the 90s.

And nearly a million immigation into the country is not exactly something to celebrate. The numbers are out of control.

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:18

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 08:16

And here it is. Ladies and gentleman.

Bringing in rapists and murderer is on par with homegrown ones. Apparently. We must sacrifice public safety at the altar of woke by actively increasing the numbers of violent criminals in the country.

This is on par with the argument you see on this very forum from rape apologists who say that increased rape and sexual assault is a price worth paying for progressive causes like open borders.

The vast majority of rapists are white British men. Even if we stopped all immigration tomorrow and got rid of every single immigrant we would still have huge levels of VAWAG and we should apparently just accept that

ijustwanttoworkout · Yesterday 08:19

DancingNotDrowning · Yesterday 08:16

Don’t be absurd - you’re not even attempting to discuss this in good faith.

the point - if you had an ounce of reading comprehension is that people understandably get angry when they feel a tragedy could have been prevented.

the easiest way to prevent a brutal attack is to ensure the person who commits the brutal attack is not present.

That’s not about race it’s about location. The fact you’d assume that the criminals on bail and violent psychiatric patients that I referenced were black speaks to your own bias and racism.

I never mentioned black people.

You’re the one continually saying we need to accept violence from British men because it’s fine, because they were born here

labtest57 · Yesterday 08:21

Pineforests · Yesterday 07:47

I was attacked by a white man (posh, white, boarding school educated). A few weeks later he tried to kill me. Why would it have been worse if it had been someone who had been allowed into the country? I'm all ears.

As for the capitals, please don't.

Irrelevant. Some attacks are preventable others aren't

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