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Joke at my expense at networking event

166 replies

Reubensway · Today 14:26

I am self employed and attend various business/network events, this morning I went to one I hadn’t attended before but had heard positive things about.

There was about 25/30 people there, and it is essentially ‘chaired’ by one man. After I have my presentation about my business, he made a comment about where I am from (Liverpool). He said that anyone with their purses or wallets in front of them on the table should hide them immediately, to some muffled laughter from a few others.

Am I being unreasonable to expect professional standards as opposed to stereotypical jokes? I won’t return to this particular meeting.

OP posts:
momager22 · Today 17:53

Absolutely not appropriate. I’d complain.

Bikergran · Today 17:56

Unacceptable and unprofessional. I would complain to the organisers, and if you get no sensible reaction, leave a poor review.

ElvirRamcic · Today 17:57

What a fucking bore that bloke sounds. I mean, jokes about scousers being thieves, how original and witty.

I get the same about being from Yorkshire - “eh up”. Always from a bloke, without fail. Never from a woman.

JustStopItNora · Today 17:58

MountRushmoore · Today 17:53

Same thing happens to me almost everyday as an American.

President jokes, religion jokes, accent jokes, jokes about the country, the food etc. Not sure what to say but glad I have thick skin and don't care.

100%. My BFF here in the UK is American and what she is expected to put up with is disgraceful.

MountRushmoore · Today 17:59

JustStopItNora · Today 17:58

100%. My BFF here in the UK is American and what she is expected to put up with is disgraceful.

Well, tell her I'm sorry! I've been here 25 years and people still go out of their way to try to insult me! If she ever wants a shoulder to cry on, give her my details ha! x

SparkyBlue · Today 17:59

YANBU OP. Please email and let the organisers know how you felt. This bullshit needs to be called out. I’m originally from a particularly rough part of the city where I grew up so I’ve gotten so much of this crap over the years. And take no notice of those who ask you why you didn’t say this that or the other at the time. Hindsight is a great thing and that type of comment was the last thing you expected.

Moveoverdarlin · Today 18:00

It’s just really dated humour. And people have heard it a million times so it’s not really funny. A joke about blondes wouldn’t bother me but fucking hell it’s all a bit Jim Davidson circa 1984 and this is the same.

I’d be tempted to email the host and say

’I enjoyed the conference on Tuesday, it was good to meet the likes of Joe Bloggs from Company XYZ.

What I didn’t appreciate was the really dated, reference to Scousers stealing. It’s 2026, what stereotypical crap to spout when introducing someone at an industry conference.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · Today 18:06

Agreed. And also, as for the comment about women not being able to be the butt of the joke "gracefully". OMG

OP I hope you report this idiot to the network organisers. He shouldn't be chairing this meeting and creating an atmosphere like that. What a dinosaur.
Or report him to the local chamber of commerce.

I wouldn't ignore it because you are probably not the first woman who has been deterred from networking with that organisation due to comments like that from this man and he deserves to be called out... gracefully or not.

titchy · Today 18:09

Everanewbie · Today 16:01

I don't think you can compare racism with stereotyping cities. I don't think it is right to extrapolate that theory here. I see what you are saying but it not the same.

It’s EXACTLY the same. Using a nasty trope and applying it to a group of people based on them sharing one characteristic.

LifesabagofRevels · Today 18:11

Report the arsehole. It’s not funny.

Triskellion75 · Today 18:11

MrsPapillon · Today 17:36

Try getting it constantly, for your whole life. It’s boring. It’s tiring. It’s frustrating. We are fiercely proud of our city and its people and it hurts to have people constantly slagging you off and pretending it’s a joke.

The Hillsborough families were forced to fight for justice for decades for their loved ones simply because of these untrue, unfounded accusations and ideas that the rest of the country persist in holding. I very much doubt that the same evil accusations would have been made against Arsenal or Villa fans. But people believed it simply because they were scousers.

Imagine if someone said those things out loud to a person of colour, or a disabled person. “You’re all lazy thieves who are on the dole. Lolz”. They’d be sacked on the spot. But scousers are fair game because it’s just ‘banter’. It’s not, it’s discrimination.

Studies have shown that people from Liverpool are perceived to be untrustworthy and unintelligent, and are less likely to be recruited for jobs outside of Liverpool.

So forgive us for being a bit ‘touchy’ about it. Maybe you should try challenging your own negative bias instead of parroting tired old tropes.

Edited

This. Remember how easily people bought The S*n's vicious lies about fellow fans picking the pockets of the dead?

Guy's a wank.

MrsOfButt · Today 18:24

Everanewbie · Today 14:41

I lived in Liverpool for a while. It is definitely true that the scousers have an incredible sense of humour, but they don't seem to have the ability to be the butt of the joke gracefully.

Do you?

SleepyWhippetMum · Today 18:26

I've been involved in a few business networking organisations and I do find them regularly full of blokes making jokes using outdated stereotypes. It's tedious and massively puts me off working with or recommending them!

Unfortunately it doesn't seem to have the same affect on many of the other attendees, who tend to be of a similar demographic!

MrsOfButt · Today 18:28

Pinkbus · Today 15:17

I was in Liverpool last weekend and have never felt so "foreign" in my life. It's not that people were unfriendly exactly (except the drunk ones brawling on the Mersey Ferry, I didn't warm to them) I just felt different, and like everyone knew I was different, in a way I haven't in foreign cities.

Where are you from and why were you here?

EmeraldShamrock000 · Today 18:30

He made a fool out of himself. People may have laughed out of shock at the stupid joke he made.

AquaLeader · Today 18:36

Everanewbie · Today 15:29

Exactly. Great people, little thin on skin.

But not everyone is blessed to be thick.

Count your blessings, @Everanewbie.

Charlize43 · Today 18:37

I would have said; 'If I am going to be the butt of your joke, I'm going to show you my arse,' and with that bent over and pulled my knickers down and given them all a moon.

Honestly, whatever happened to professionalism!

Everanewbie · Today 18:37

MrsOfButt · Today 18:24

Do you?

Yes.

MrsOfButt · Today 18:39

Everanewbie · Today 18:37

Yes.

Says you, I'll bet other people think differently.

Gwenna · Today 18:39

Reubensway · Today 14:26

I am self employed and attend various business/network events, this morning I went to one I hadn’t attended before but had heard positive things about.

There was about 25/30 people there, and it is essentially ‘chaired’ by one man. After I have my presentation about my business, he made a comment about where I am from (Liverpool). He said that anyone with their purses or wallets in front of them on the table should hide them immediately, to some muffled laughter from a few others.

Am I being unreasonable to expect professional standards as opposed to stereotypical jokes? I won’t return to this particular meeting.

Some men (and misogynistic women) can’t handle successful women, especially when in the same room as them. I’m from Liverpool and we’re used to ribbing each other and being ribbed. He sounds like he was being obnoxious.

Gwenna · Today 18:41

MrsOfButt · Today 18:28

Where are you from and why were you here?

Haha exactly - we’re our own country 😁

Everanewbie · Today 18:42

MrsOfButt · Today 18:39

Says you, I'll bet other people think differently.

I’d hope not. I try not to take gentle piss taking to heart and don’t give people reason to think otherwise.

Gwenna · Today 18:44

Everanewbie · Today 14:41

I lived in Liverpool for a while. It is definitely true that the scousers have an incredible sense of humour, but they don't seem to have the ability to be the butt of the joke gracefully.

Not sure which “Scousers” you were around, but we’re literally the opposite of that! Or your jokes weren’t very good- one or the other 😉

ConstanzeMozart · Today 18:45

Unacceptable. But the usual 'you just can't take a joke' crew are out, I see.
I'd send him a brief, factual email making clear how unimpressive his little sally was.
I'd also be tempted to put something on LinkedIn about it, maybe anonymising it.

Horses7 · Today 18:45

Appalling - but don’t let it stop you attending if the meetings are useful. Then he’s won!

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