To think that we should all boycott the businesses of billionaires until they sort the situation of kids starving to death due to famine and war?

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They can literally afford to fix this issue.

Enough is enough.

Prayers for Sudan 🇸🇩 and to all those suffering across the world.

Also, Billionaires don't just have piles of billions of dollars sitting around. Their "wealth" is mostly on paper only, i.e. the "worth" of their companies, their properties, their yachts, supercars, artworks, etc. Many (if not most) don't have much quickly realisable "cash" sat in bank accounts. They're only worth "billions" because there are other billionaires willing to buy their shares, yachts, properties, cars, artworks, etc. Take that "market" away and their wealth will plummet because there won't be other billionaires able and willing to buy from each other. It's all a ponzi scheme really. A Banksy is only worth a million because someone else is willing to pay a million for it. It's ALL relative. Shares in any of the huge international firms could crash overnight if something dreadful happens.

Ok, so, yes billionnaires have a vast amount of money. Who's going to take it off then and send it to Sudan etc. How about the countries that have problems where some of the problems are caused by infighting against different factions or terrorist run governance who steal money for themselves (eg think Hamas taking millions and popping in Qatar for the leaders). Who's going to take it from the Kings, The Religious leaders, The Sheiks, the etc the etc the etc (insert various different type of people with huge wealth). Thinking of starting a war to cease it are you @mumofoneAloneandwell

Not pratical.

There are some very good billionnaires who give vast sums of money to various global issues (thin Bill Gates) he gets slated constantly by consipracy theorists for his efforts.

A dream but not workable.

You would be boycotting an awful lot of businesses.

OP is just annoying the shit out of me. So asinine.

@mumofoneAloneandwell, I am actually reading about the Great Purge of 1936-38 under Stalin. Let’s hope history doesn’t repeat itself, because as you allude to you will be on the side of the oppressors.

There are many factions in society that create, contribute to, turn a blind eye to, war,
crisis and famine and there are also thankfully many that work towards peace, provide much needed aid and work geopolitically to end war and famine.

And there is so much more in between, including billionaires.

I have some sympathy with your views and I would settle for billionaires paying the same rate of tax as the rest of us but that ain’t going to happen. Most of us rely on the big tech that these billionaires own and the Amazon model Jeff Bezos owns is pretty convenient. I tried boycotting them but honestly unless we all do a coordinated giving up on their companies it won’t even register with them. Third world nations need to sort out corruption before it gets better for their citizens.

Billionaires shouldn't pay the same tax because the way they generate wealth is different. We want them investing!

I'm be more interested in why people still have the urge to have sex during a famine. And how do they go to full term with their pregnancies, and give birth with little or no problems? I find the whole situation baffling.

And boycotting only affects the staff who work there it makes no odds to Bezos

I mean for the sex can’t really comment as I understand that comment - it would definitely not be my personal priority in that situation! I suppose the only thing I could offer is that for a lot of places it’s been years in famine so for communities and families this is their “normal”.

But for the mortality rates these are quite high - we have a lot of women miscarry or die in childbirth and neonatal death - Yemen (sorry as I know the OP specifically mentioned Sudan but since I don’t work there I keep referring to Yemen) we have a reasonably high mortality in comparison to a more developed country, we have like 35 / 1000 deaths in 1st year and 41/1000 under 5 - Sudan is apparently very similar also at 3.9%

We have locations where we have a large majority of the community enrolled in malnutrition programmes.

But having babies surely just adds to the problems. Any aid that gets through has to feed even more mouths. And the medical staff dealing with difficult pregnancies instead of diseases and malnutrition.

i just don’t get they would choose to add to the issues faced by their families and communities.

I mean I completely agree from a personal standpoint as someone growing up in the UK it seems obvious to me as I suppose it does to most of us.

I suppose from a cultural perspective (and I know there was a poster before sharing their experience from Nigeria as well who may be able to comment in a better way than myself!) there’s a very different view around children and sex that it’s sort of the done thing to have large families, I think our standard calculation in Yemen for family size was 7.

At risk of sounding a bit “colonial” so apologies as that isn’t what I mean - there isn’t really the same thought process around sex and children, and being able to provide - there’s a huge lack of access to birth control, without taking into consideration cultural attitudes to using this. Sex is also a “right” to a lot of men in marriage - as you can imagine in countries like Yemen (also from what I know of colleagues who work in Sudan) there are large GBV issues so even if a woman, who is having to give birth and do the childcare does not want to have more children she doesn’t always have a choice in this - which is obviously a whole another issue.

Children often support the family later in life if they reach that stage as well, not to mention high levels of child labour.

Not sure if these are the actual reasons as this was never part of any data I’ve seen collected but I would guess these have some bearing on the decisions.

It just blows my mind that they are making their situations worse deliberately by their actions.

I get it’s cultural but they aren’t stupid - having children and not being able to feed them and hoping they will grow to adulthood and support them is counter productive. So everyone has less because the aid has to stretch further.

is it true that a lot of the aid charities are Catholic and won’t provide condoms etc or is that one of those myths.

There’s also lots of research done about how persistent malnutrition seriously affects brain development so under nourished children are likely to have poor brain function which doesn’t help the world.

Yeah I mean there’s always going to a mix isn’t there - for example in the cities, where people both have better access and better education and better employment opportunities you do see a lot of families deciding to perhaps only have one / two children.

but then in rural communities, for example one displacement camp in the south (of families who came from the North) we were running programmes in we mapped education level and over 90% had no formal schooling, and the remaining 10% was some primary level. People have grown up in poverty and famine so it’s a daily reality.

Yes quite a few Christian faith based charities do not offer contraception and/ or access to safe abortion as part of their programming and promote natural family planning. A lot of faith based charities do have really strong programming in other areas though.

Ive been doing this and nothing has changed. The National terrorisation of Jeremy Corbyn proves this.

Oh FFS you're a Corbynista.

Explains the 6th form Politics and Worldview.

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You’re flattering them with ‘6th Form’. More like Year 9.

I grew up poor, i'm a bit of a leftie 🤷‍♀️

And what did you do with your life then? Did you work hard at school? Make any effort?

We grew up poor, and in India so worse than how things are here. DH and I both worked very hard and moved here. We are Tory.

Good for you 🙄

And people who didnt do as 'well' as you, what are they?

Wishing they paid more attention at school

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Lord Sugar is council estate to billionaire through his sheer hard work and determination.