School toilets

[Sweetheart1990]

School toilets!
Son text me to say he had walked out of lesson after being refused permission to go to the toilet, he had finished all his work. I have always told him to do this if he is desperate but he never actually has before.
He has been put in isolation.
I'm angry as I really believe that students should be allowed to go when they need to and he had completed all tasks so was just say in the classroom anyway.
What does everyone else think?

They cannot go at break times as they have duties to attend to and parents to ring back about kids who were dicking about in the toilets....

Thus said OP has prevented teachers themselves from going today....the irony!

It isn't the teachers fault that parents demand phone calls back during the time they need to be going to the toilet....

I think follow the rules which are common sense, be kind, do your work to best of your ability, be respectful etc
Not being allowed to go to the toilet when you need it to me is ridiculous. Using phones acceptable for contacting parents. There have been times where he's been ill and they refuse to phone home, he's my child, I should make the decision on such things not them.

Yes and even in the absence of medical conditions some peoples bodies still don’t act like they should at times, we are not robots. It might not be the norm but every now and then someone will get a dodgy tummy, an unexpected period, whatever. There is no ‘should be able to hold it’ or ‘should have gone earlier’ in those scenarios. And I would never want to be the person who is telling a desperate person no you can’t use the bathroom, sit down.

Do you know what was ironic, when I pressed the buzzer at the school office I had to wait a minute or so, the receptionist said apologies I had nipped to the loo 😂

Hear hear, I was just wondering the same thing.

As someone who works in a secondary school, if kids didn’t take the piss (excuse the pun) then this would not be an issue. Your son probably only asks when he needs to, but a lot of kids ask every lesson, then take ages, or just wander off. I don’t know what the answer is, but letting every child go every time they ask is not practical.

But was he in the middle of an important meeting? 🙄

I've told my daughter to do the same and she did it once, with no consequences, but I'd told her I would speak up for her if the school did try to punish her for it. Many of the children, from what I've heard, try not to go to the toilets all day which isn't good for their health.

When I was at school in the 80s if you needed to go to the toilet you were allowed to and I don't recall there being any issues. I can't help thinking that making such an issue about going to the loo is causing some of the problems.

Could he not go when he first gets into school? Or in form time?

Yeah because they can go to the toilet, teachers cannot....the irony is that you prevented teachers going to the toilet today....and for the rest of the day as they will have to use their lunch break to complete work now so will go all day....but hey you are ok with taking away their human right to demand immediate responses....eh? Weird that.

One of our teachers at primary school used to start her double lessons by asking if everyone had been to the toilet at break time, and those who hadn't should go now and be quick, you have five minutes.

She was a really lovely teacher and everyone listened to her. This was way back in the mists of time when people, including parents, respected teachers.
It must be a different world now from what I'm reading.

I was refused the toilet when I was in year 7. I couldn’t hold my bladder any longer and wet myself. I was bullied for the entirety of the rest of secondary school because of it.
It was honestly one of the most traumatic things to happen in my life so I whole heartedly agree with you.

I wasn't waiting for a teacher to calle.back, it was admin staff who are in charge of knowing who's where, they were supposed to call me back to let me know if he was in lessons or isolation! I obviously did not expect a teacher to ring me back in lesson time!

I'm assuming with him being a little later than usual he just rushed to his first lesson (bus issues) and probably just didn't think until he started needing it badly.

The toilets at my kids high school are locked with shutters. It’s awful. The trouble is you have the whole school trying to go at break/lunch and it’s just not possible there aren’t enough toilets for that.

Admin staff have to get the information from the teacher....how could the admin staff be aware of where the child is and what happened if a teacher didn't share that information???

Or do you think admin staff are psychic and know what is happening with all children at all times in the school?

Admin staff do not know where a child is unless it is logged on the system by a teacher! The teacher who logged it either had to do that during a lesson which would then have stopped learning or done it during their break....which would've stopped a toilet break for them....

Tell me how admin staff would know otherwise if a teacher had not told them?

Go look up the reason why holding on is bad for you include it in your email to them. Isolation to avoid soiling is disgusting. This pisses me off no end I work with kids with EBSA and this is a massive trigger for it. It's disgusting teachers think they can police bodily functions

Because the child signs in electronically on the system.when they go into class. Or when they are put I. Isolation the staff there sign them on electronically. Safety measures so all children are instantly traceable on emergency!

Utterly ridiculous comment, people need access to a toilet if they are desperate, it doesn't matter if they are male or female.

People need to learn bladder management.
The child in the OP should have gone before school started. Nobody should be ‘desperate’ 30 mins after school starts.
Funnyhow we don’t hear of teachers leaving the classroom daily to go to the loo.

My post which you quoted was in response to my initial one -maybe read that too.
Personally ithink you are the utterly ridiculous one. Can you not manage without a loo for an hour?

Clueless thing to say, have you never ever in your whole life needed the toilet outside your prescribed parameters?
Human beings are not robots.

Support the teachers. I know it's frustrating but they are trying to do a job. Too many parents support their kids which makes them entitled and undermines the teaching.

There is no reason for him to be so desperate that he needs to walk out of class. They are only in school for 6 hours … go before you get there, go again at break, then lunch and then when you get home … the problem is kids would rather not go during their break times and wait to go during lessons! Girls slightly different due to time of the month issues … but again, this wouldn’t be an every day occurrence!

My son didn't have time to go before his first lesson as he didn't not want to get a late mark. He wasn't desperate at that time. 40 mins later he was!

Other that missing part of the lesson and disrupting the class on his way out and back in … now times that by 30, how’s anyone meant to learn?!?