Young people in the UK have it tough

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All the news stories are about young people not getting jobs and having to stay with their parents. It used to be they had to stay at home to save for a house, now it's no house and no jobs. Can't see things getting any better in the near future. Is the UK now a country that is failing it's young people. Is it going to be like countries from Eastern or Southern Europe where young people had to outmigrate in order to get a decent life? Can't see any politicians having the right answers.

Governments haven’t invested in the young and here we are.

Right. You have made an utterly compelling argument. It's the immigrants, and benefits. 👏

You can still do the minimum with job interviews or try and go on the sick. Looking at the lives of the working poor I can't really blame people for doing that.

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I have three young adults all still at home. I do constantly remind them that there are always problems wherever in the world people live and they are massively lucky to live in a country that other people are desperate to live in.
I have nephews and nieces who have moved to Australia and the US. Mixed experiences. They are conflicted about staying away forever although seem to be doing better than the ones left behind.

I don't think increasing retirement age is helping either.
Limited number of jobs, why encourage older people to stay in them not opening up space at the bottom of the ladder?

I know far too many young people with degrees under emoloyed working in pubs. Its crazy.

The sarcasm of your post was missed.😁

UC will know if you are just doing the bare minimum.

I think there are plenty of opportunities for the young to train and get further education, it’s the step after that that’s screwed. The jobs just aren’t there. Plenty of well educated young people out of work.

In my day you just had to apply for a certain amount every week. It had the unfortunate effect of causing the scattergun approach to firing off job applications to anything however unsuitable. Do they do more to survey job seekers these days?

In any case I don't blame anyone for taking a realistic look at their prospects and doing what suits them.

Doesn't surprise me in the least :) You can't waste time and energy on those who want to be right rather than look at the evidence, and retort with a logical argument than attacks.

@lxn889121 Germany has a shortage of apprentices in trades, so that could be an option. You have to be at least B1 in German though to qualify for a vocational training visa, so in practice, for most people it isn't an option.

It is pretty much still the same. It depends if you have a nice work coach or not.

It's not easy. My DD was out of a work for over a year and I was really worried she was getting depressed. Luckily she got a job and although it seems steady, who knows?
My nephew's and nieces also struggled to get work, especially in their chosen field. I'm sick of people saying young people are lazy and there are plenty of jobs. I notice this is only said by people who are working or retired and don't have a young person at home applying for multiple jobs daily.
The answer though? I'm not sure. Perhaps supermarkets could help by getting rid of self serve checkouts and use some of their billions to employ staff. Perhaps companies could employ actual people instead of AI. Those things aren't going to happen and things are just going to get worse.

Because state pensions are one of the biggest drivers of the increases in “welfare” spending. We’re getting older and older. The triple lock is making things worse

You could post about your guinea pig having a bad cold, and OneTealShaker would still find a way to blame it on people receiving benefits

That IT boss is an idiot. As soon as you only have AI in place of low rung jobs, you will loose all those to do the upper rung jobs (as they retire or go into other sectors) as no-one will ever develop the skills needed to do them. Many places are stepping back from just AI for this very reason.

Can you explain how they are doing better? Do you mean in terms of work or housing? Ds has many friends moving to Australia and im wondering how it actually is out there.

Much of it is tax the extent of AI has fully been realised. But not being prepared for Ai uptick as this gov isn’t is another factor.

This is such a poor persons view of rich people. Why would they be here if they can’t make money? It’s not the tax that means they don’t come.

dont forget the 20 years of being buffered up by Russian and Chinese investment came with a lot of corruption and fraud.

Oh wow, didn't expect the thread to take off overnight. I just don't see any politicians having real solutions, really not helped by AI. Will the UK end up like Ireland was for a long time where the young had to leave if they wanted a decent life?

unfortunately I think we will become the Irish/ polish of the past and emigrate for work. Eastern Europe is booming, as is China and Saudi.

British people aren’t very adventurous (for obvious reasons) so I don’t know how long it’ll take for this to be commonplace

Unfortunately as younger people are the demographic which vote the least, politicians are happy to consistently fob them off in favour of the elderly who are more likely to vote 🤷🏻‍♀️ the easiest step towards a solution would be for more young people to vote as it would force politicians to kick their arse into gear and care about them

There are lots of factors involved in why young people are at a disadvantage in finding work. There was a Forbes report that said AI was automating basic entry level work, but also that WFH had affected first jobs too because employers are only going to take on experienced, mid-career people with a proven track record to work remotely.

There's also the outsourcing problem. Like the call centre shift to India which was a huge detriment to the service-based UK economy, we see the same in tech. India and Africa have large, highly educated and skilled, affordable workforces that undercut the UK, so the new jobs created in AI aren't necessarily going to be UK based jobs for young people.

People saying 'automation has always been progress' are only half correct. Automation (robotics) in factories generated more profits for a company but saw entry-level job loses, with the creation of fewer more highly skilled and better paid jobs like engineers.

To future proof against AI automation the choice for young people is to follow the money and train in tech, competing against other countries for specialised roles, or to go into essential but lowet paid people facing work like caring.