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Young people in the UK have it tough

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JiIttiIg · 01/06/2026 20:59

All the news stories are about young people not getting jobs and having to stay with their parents. It used to be they had to stay at home to save for a house, now it's no house and no jobs. Can't see things getting any better in the near future. Is the UK now a country that is failing it's young people. Is it going to be like countries from Eastern or Southern Europe where young people had to outmigrate in order to get a decent life? Can't see any politicians having the right answers.

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TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · Yesterday 07:04

Labour announced training for youngsters not in education or work.
Well let's hope it's meaningful training with real qualifications at the end.
Unlike the Mickey mouse schemes that have went before.
I remember being on a computer one years ago hardly touched a computer and these training companies are paid fortunes.

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:07

In the UK, a microscopic fraction of the population, just the top 0.00017% (the richest 50 families or roughly 150 billionaires), owns more combined wealth than the entire bottom 50% of the population (about 34 million people) combined.

When widening the scope to the richest 1% of Britons, this group holds more total wealth than the bottom 70% to 80% of the country put together.

Instead of looking up, we keep looking down and blaming benefits, the "lazy" youth, who now have AI to contend with, or just blame whichever party is in power, even though the next party you vote for doesn't have any answers either. Companies will continue to put shareholder primacy over everything else and jobs will continue to disappear wherever possible.

The truth is none of that money at the top is trickling down, it's just getting sucked upwards. Without this issue being addressed, there's not going to be any change. Not the immigrants, not the lazy on benefits, that's just the "look over there" distraction while the rich pick your pockets.

kateluvscats · Yesterday 07:08

I heard on the radio recently that if at the age of 20 you claim benefits there is an extremely high chance you will be claiming them when you hit 30.
It's all very well though saying young people need to work but there are no jobs. Labour need to stop hammering business and create a strong progressive economy. Generate money instead of spending it on the ever increasing welfare bill .

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 07:08

TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · Yesterday 07:04

Labour announced training for youngsters not in education or work.
Well let's hope it's meaningful training with real qualifications at the end.
Unlike the Mickey mouse schemes that have went before.
I remember being on a computer one years ago hardly touched a computer and these training companies are paid fortunes.

What is the point of training people if there are no jobs?

All the wealthy people have left the country and no-one will invest if they are going to be taxed to high heaven.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 07:10

stillhiding1990 · Yesterday 06:17

Tough in comparison to what other counties? Somalia? Sudan?

So we just have to compare us to the third world now do we?

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 07:11

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 07:10

So we just have to compare us to the third world now do we?

Don't worry. The way Labour is going we will be third world soon so the comparison will be valid.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:11

Urgentbiscuitrequired · Yesterday 06:57

It has been widely reported that those that want to get jobs are really struggling. It isn't just lazy people on benefits, but people looking for work too. Assuming people on benefits are lazy is a very lazy assumption in itself.

Yeah right. Yet we had over 800k immigrants into the country last year. Thats nearly a million people coming in. Madness.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:13

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:07

In the UK, a microscopic fraction of the population, just the top 0.00017% (the richest 50 families or roughly 150 billionaires), owns more combined wealth than the entire bottom 50% of the population (about 34 million people) combined.

When widening the scope to the richest 1% of Britons, this group holds more total wealth than the bottom 70% to 80% of the country put together.

Instead of looking up, we keep looking down and blaming benefits, the "lazy" youth, who now have AI to contend with, or just blame whichever party is in power, even though the next party you vote for doesn't have any answers either. Companies will continue to put shareholder primacy over everything else and jobs will continue to disappear wherever possible.

The truth is none of that money at the top is trickling down, it's just getting sucked upwards. Without this issue being addressed, there's not going to be any change. Not the immigrants, not the lazy on benefits, that's just the "look over there" distraction while the rich pick your pockets.

Here we go. Throw in AI because it’s what you must say. Be sure no sentence can ever be complete without throwing in AI because it sounds cool or something.

AI is automation. Like there has been automation since the dawn of time.

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:14

Automation inevitably affects jobs though.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 07:15

MustTryHarderAndHarder · Yesterday 07:11

Don't worry. The way Labour is going we will be third world soon so the comparison will be valid.

Sad but true

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:15

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:14

Automation inevitably affects jobs though.

Yeah it creates new ones. Great, isn’t it.

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:16

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:15

Yeah it creates new ones. Great, isn’t it.

Edited

I can't see much evidence of that lately.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:17

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:16

I can't see much evidence of that lately.

Maybe you don’t follow the news. Or the markets. Or what’s happening in the world. The US, India, far east all have booming tech and AI sectors and generating jobs and wealth from it.

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:18

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:13

Here we go. Throw in AI because it’s what you must say. Be sure no sentence can ever be complete without throwing in AI because it sounds cool or something.

AI is automation. Like there has been automation since the dawn of time.

The irony of your post when I could say the same about the stock denial that comes out of those too lazy to apply critical thought. AI is not the same as automation. In simple terms, AI represents a fundamentally different economic shock than traditional automation. While past automation replaced routine physical labor, generative AI is disrupting cognitive and creative work, meaning the scale, speed, and types of jobs affected are entirely unprecedented.

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:18

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:17

Maybe you don’t follow the news. Or the markets. Or what’s happening in the world. The US, India, far east all have booming tech and AI sectors and generating jobs and wealth from it.

Edited

That's not a lot of use to a recent graduate that wants an entry level job. Agree with PP, I think trickle down is a myth told by rich people.

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 07:18

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:17

Maybe you don’t follow the news. Or the markets. Or what’s happening in the world. The US, India, far east all have booming tech and AI sectors and generating jobs and wealth from it.

Edited

That’s not happening here, though, is it?

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:19

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:18

The irony of your post when I could say the same about the stock denial that comes out of those too lazy to apply critical thought. AI is not the same as automation. In simple terms, AI represents a fundamentally different economic shock than traditional automation. While past automation replaced routine physical labor, generative AI is disrupting cognitive and creative work, meaning the scale, speed, and types of jobs affected are entirely unprecedented.

Yeah, so automation then.

Just using pointless words doesn’t change the meaning. Or sound clever.

RubyPowderPuff · Yesterday 07:20

This is what happens when you have millions on benefits that everyone else has to pay for

I believe one of the reasons for the increase of young people on benefits is the luck of jobs, housing and subsequently independence from their parents.

I worry for my own DC , luckily DC one has found a graduate job with good pay. But it's not enough to pay for a room on top of living independently with all it entrails. So they are gonna move back with us and take a one way 90min train journey to work every day seasons ticket is ££££ - it's grim. Even though they are one of the luckily ones!
DC2 is only 15....

Namenamchange · Yesterday 07:20

It’s what Reform make no attempt to hide, you will have to work it out yourselves. Which might be ok if your young adult is a white, healthy male.

and yet statistics show if you’re young white me and working class your outlook is quite poor, so I think we need to be mindful when we say one group is ok.

TooTiredToCareAnymore88 · Yesterday 07:20

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:00

A lot of people on benefits are working people anyway. If anything I'm surprised more people haven't given up on trying to find work given that it's not going to be a route to a better life if you still need to be topped up with handouts.

You can't give up job seeking because then you are sanctioned.

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:21

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:17

Maybe you don’t follow the news. Or the markets. Or what’s happening in the world. The US, India, far east all have booming tech and AI sectors and generating jobs and wealth from it.

Edited

That's a K shaped economy. Most of the jobs and weath created from AI will continue to benefit those on top. Doesn't do much for those at the bottom. The problem itself is inequality.

TyroneBarkleyManofValueNSOUL · Yesterday 07:21

WhatNoRaisins · Yesterday 07:14

Automation inevitably affects jobs though.

Can see a lot of WFH jobs going once AI really gets going.

There was one IT company boss saying that AI in his company was going to replace low level estate within the company(workers)or words to that effect.
Iirc it was thousands of jobs

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:22

JuliaBraverman · Yesterday 07:18

That’s not happening here, though, is it?

Exactly. That not the fault of AI. Therefore AI is not the reason that young people in this country are screwed. It’s the fault of incompetent, thick and corrupt politicians and successive governments that the country is declining and not keeping up. No one is stopping this country from inventing, promoting innovation, investing in business, attracting funding. Except for the government and those who want to spend everything on benefits.

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:22

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:19

Yeah, so automation then.

Just using pointless words doesn’t change the meaning. Or sound clever.

It is not automation as in the past as you stated. It is fundamentally different. It's like hacking off a leg with a saw vs using a scalpel. It is both surgery, but hardly the same.

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:23

EasternEcho · Yesterday 07:21

That's a K shaped economy. Most of the jobs and weath created from AI will continue to benefit those on top. Doesn't do much for those at the bottom. The problem itself is inequality.

The luddites had the same attitude. It’s always cyclical history repeating itself.

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