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AIBU to think my fiance overreacted by getting a younger woman's number because I double booked by accident, and threw my belongings about?

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Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 12:52

I am trying to work out whether I am being unfair or whether my fiancé genuinely overreacts to situations.
I was spending a long weekend with him and we had plans for Monday. Friday to Sunday eve were lovely and we did sightseeing etc. then went to his and were planning to stay there for a few nights.

However, I realised I had accidentally double-booked the Monday because my adult DD had arranged for me to meet her new boyfriend and his father over lunch. It was important to her and had been organised for a while. DD has is ND and has severe MH issues; this is the first "normal" relationship she has had and it's a huge deal for her.

I told my fiancé on Sunday afternoon that I would go to the lunch for a few hours and then come back afterwards so we could still spend the Monday evening together and the following days.

He was furious. He said I was choosing other people over him and repeatedly referred to my daughter's boyfriend and his father as "strange men". He seemed particularly upset that I would be spending time with another man, even though it was DD's BF's dad not just a random stranger.

After I had told him I had double booked and would need to go for a few hours we were arguing about it non-stop for hours. I was crying at one point and I kept saying I was sorry, it was human error, not deliberate. After all this arguing I was tired and wanted to stay in, but at around 11pm he insisted we go out. While we were out he deliberately started talking to a much younger woman, introduced himself to her, claimed he got her Instagram and then repeatedly talked about how he was meeting her for dinner the next day. His argument was that if I was going for lunch with strange men the next day, then why couldn't he meet up with a new person too? Even though it was not the same at all, obviously. The young woman must have been about 20 and we are both in our 40's so it just felt really weird and "off".

The argument continued after we got back to his for most of the night and I got very little sleep. The next morning I had to get an extremely expensive Uber to make sure I did not let my daughter down and miss the lunch. He had said not to come back to his after lunch but then called me when I was in the Uber and asked me to come back to his after all.

The lunch itself was lovely. Afterwards, I travelled back to his. However, when I arrived we had another argument. During it, he picked up my bags and threw them across the room in anger, they went everywhere as he threw them so hard.

He later continued to use the lunch as an example of me not caring about him enough and prioritising other people over our relationship, and how I like "strange men".

From my point of view, I attended an important family event for a few hours and still made the effort to return afterwards. From his point of view, I had disrespected him and chosen other people over him.

When I told him how much the Uber cost he took offence because I have never gotten an Uber to his even if I am running late; he said he didn't realise I have money in this way.

When I went back to his after the lunch I had to get a standing room only train in the middle of the heatwave; I don't like public transport at the best of times and he kept asking when I arrived what did I want to do; meet his friends in the pub or go straight to his. I said I don't care and was almost in tears as I was finding the journey so stressful. I didn't realise but he had me on loud speaker so all his friends heard me when I said "I don't care" and now he's saying his friends all think I am horrible and rude to him. When it was taken out of context and they didn't know we had been arguing all night and that he'd got a much younger woman's contact details the night before.

Am I missing something or was he overreacting?

OP posts:
sunhat100 · 01/06/2026 19:05

Grecianrainbow · 01/06/2026 12:55

Just get rid. He’s a dickhead. You do not want to live a life of being abused by him. He’s already started being violent to your belongings next time it could be the walls then your face.

You are an adult with grown children. Do not stay with this abusive cheater of a man!

Just read this from you...He is from a culture which is a lot more conservative than here with regards to women's rights and has an extremely high level of women being killed every year and most of the time they get away with it.
It is like I am his possession especially since we got engaged

Red flags!

Do not become a statistic!

Beavis8 · 01/06/2026 19:06

Please leave this psychopathic abusive cunt

cordelia16 · 01/06/2026 19:07

He sounds controlling and abusive.

Are you planning to still marry this guy?

RetiredFromExplaining · 01/06/2026 19:08

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:04

He is from a culture which is a lot more conservative than here with regards to women's rights and has an extremely high level of women being killed every year and most of the time they get away with it.

It is like I am his possession especially since we got engaged.

Please leave him when it is safe to do so.

In my experience he will escalate once you are married and again if you have children (this may not be your plan). If he is throwing things across the room he will become violent towards you.

If he strangles you he is more likely to kill you.

Get a plan and detach. If you have things that matter at his place stay nice until you can get them, otherwise forget about them.

Stay safe.

aquitodavia · 01/06/2026 19:08

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 17:53

And the not letting me sleep is absolutely horrible and in hindsight he has done this before, before I am meant to see friends or family etc. or an important day at work.

Yes that's no coincidence, nor is the fact that there's always some issue/argument whenever you want to see friends/go away etc.

liamharha · 01/06/2026 19:11

🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 run

UhOhRatPoo · 01/06/2026 19:13

As I read your OP I was actually steeling myself for the bit where you told us he raped you.

Get out immediately and never look back.

Lazybones12 · 01/06/2026 19:13

Please please leave this man.

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:14

aquitodavia · 01/06/2026 19:08

Yes that's no coincidence, nor is the fact that there's always some issue/argument whenever you want to see friends/go away etc.

Last year we had an argument the day before I went away with my sisters and the day before my birthday which was when we were seeing a lot of my friends and family.
We also have had arguments before I had a job interview.
Basically every time something important was happening, we would have a big argument the night before.

OP posts:
AzureLurker · 01/06/2026 19:15

I didnt read all your post, I didn't need to. None of the advice you have received is just because it's MN therefore LTB. None of what I did read is normal or acceptable, and I did read further posts from you. You should not feel silly by the way as you mentioned. This is how it works, starting out nice and then the true colours creep in. It will not get any better, and I definitely would not advise marrying this excuse of a man. Leave now before it gets any worse!

Youtookyourtime · 01/06/2026 19:17

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:14

Last year we had an argument the day before I went away with my sisters and the day before my birthday which was when we were seeing a lot of my friends and family.
We also have had arguments before I had a job interview.
Basically every time something important was happening, we would have a big argument the night before.

engaged but don’t live together @Sunglasses1979 ?

liamharha · 01/06/2026 19:17

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 13:01

He has always had a bit of a temper but he has never thrown my things before. He has done stuff like throwing presents he has bought me away. Or tearing up cards / letters I have written.
He has never gone out with me to get a younger woman's number before.

He sounds like my ex, you will lose yourself trying to appease him. This is coercive control and yes you should of picked your daughter every day over him ,he will never accept that and will continue to drive a wedge and make you choose who's more important,end it and block him on everything cos this story does not end well x

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:18

AzureLurker · 01/06/2026 19:15

I didnt read all your post, I didn't need to. None of the advice you have received is just because it's MN therefore LTB. None of what I did read is normal or acceptable, and I did read further posts from you. You should not feel silly by the way as you mentioned. This is how it works, starting out nice and then the true colours creep in. It will not get any better, and I definitely would not advise marrying this excuse of a man. Leave now before it gets any worse!

I know that rationally I shouldn't feel stupid but it is hard to not feel stupid at my age, given everything that has happened (there are countless other examples of things he has done which are not OK). I think partly because of my pride and the daft fact that I have been trying to persuade family and friends that he is not so bad, after all, for well over a year.

OP posts:
MMUmum · 01/06/2026 19:19

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 12:52

I am trying to work out whether I am being unfair or whether my fiancé genuinely overreacts to situations.
I was spending a long weekend with him and we had plans for Monday. Friday to Sunday eve were lovely and we did sightseeing etc. then went to his and were planning to stay there for a few nights.

However, I realised I had accidentally double-booked the Monday because my adult DD had arranged for me to meet her new boyfriend and his father over lunch. It was important to her and had been organised for a while. DD has is ND and has severe MH issues; this is the first "normal" relationship she has had and it's a huge deal for her.

I told my fiancé on Sunday afternoon that I would go to the lunch for a few hours and then come back afterwards so we could still spend the Monday evening together and the following days.

He was furious. He said I was choosing other people over him and repeatedly referred to my daughter's boyfriend and his father as "strange men". He seemed particularly upset that I would be spending time with another man, even though it was DD's BF's dad not just a random stranger.

After I had told him I had double booked and would need to go for a few hours we were arguing about it non-stop for hours. I was crying at one point and I kept saying I was sorry, it was human error, not deliberate. After all this arguing I was tired and wanted to stay in, but at around 11pm he insisted we go out. While we were out he deliberately started talking to a much younger woman, introduced himself to her, claimed he got her Instagram and then repeatedly talked about how he was meeting her for dinner the next day. His argument was that if I was going for lunch with strange men the next day, then why couldn't he meet up with a new person too? Even though it was not the same at all, obviously. The young woman must have been about 20 and we are both in our 40's so it just felt really weird and "off".

The argument continued after we got back to his for most of the night and I got very little sleep. The next morning I had to get an extremely expensive Uber to make sure I did not let my daughter down and miss the lunch. He had said not to come back to his after lunch but then called me when I was in the Uber and asked me to come back to his after all.

The lunch itself was lovely. Afterwards, I travelled back to his. However, when I arrived we had another argument. During it, he picked up my bags and threw them across the room in anger, they went everywhere as he threw them so hard.

He later continued to use the lunch as an example of me not caring about him enough and prioritising other people over our relationship, and how I like "strange men".

From my point of view, I attended an important family event for a few hours and still made the effort to return afterwards. From his point of view, I had disrespected him and chosen other people over him.

When I told him how much the Uber cost he took offence because I have never gotten an Uber to his even if I am running late; he said he didn't realise I have money in this way.

When I went back to his after the lunch I had to get a standing room only train in the middle of the heatwave; I don't like public transport at the best of times and he kept asking when I arrived what did I want to do; meet his friends in the pub or go straight to his. I said I don't care and was almost in tears as I was finding the journey so stressful. I didn't realise but he had me on loud speaker so all his friends heard me when I said "I don't care" and now he's saying his friends all think I am horrible and rude to him. When it was taken out of context and they didn't know we had been arguing all night and that he'd got a much younger woman's contact details the night before.

Am I missing something or was he overreacting?

Abusive, controlling, quick tempered, please don't marry this man, pick those bags up and keep walking

Figgygal · 01/06/2026 19:20

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:14

Last year we had an argument the day before I went away with my sisters and the day before my birthday which was when we were seeing a lot of my friends and family.
We also have had arguments before I had a job interview.
Basically every time something important was happening, we would have a big argument the night before.

Further signs of control op
Sounds like you live someway apart - please keep it that way

LAMPS1 · 01/06/2026 19:20

He wants you meek, obedient, adoring of him, pliable, easy to control and manipulate.
You will spend your life trying to please him but even that won’t be enough. That’s when we will start to physically abuse you. And then he will suddenly detest you and punish you for being meek and having no confidence left, even though it’s him who has knocked it out of you.
He wants you to always feel his power over you.
You will never be anywhere near an equal.
He’s already trying to break your spirit.

Get away while you can OP.
And don’t look back.
Good luck.

Yabbadabbadooooooo · 01/06/2026 19:21

Call Women’s Aid as soon as you safely can to work out an exit strategy. Don’t become a statistic. Watch some of Mel B from the spice girls interviews about this. She lived with it for years. She’s an advocate for Women’s Aid. Wishing you luck. Be safe.

MMUmum · 01/06/2026 19:21

GCAcademic · 01/06/2026 12:56

Why are so many women on here putting up with this kind of shit? Are you so desperate to be with a man that you'll literally put up with anything?

And why are so many needing permission to leave? If you have to ask MN then it's probably past time to leave

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:22

liamharha · 01/06/2026 19:17

He sounds like my ex, you will lose yourself trying to appease him. This is coercive control and yes you should of picked your daughter every day over him ,he will never accept that and will continue to drive a wedge and make you choose who's more important,end it and block him on everything cos this story does not end well x

This hits home I do feel like I am losing myself and have lost myself a lot.
He has not made me choose between DD and him before but he has made me choose between him and my friends and siblings and when I have chosen friends he has made it very clear he is not happy and is still going on about this way on down the line. It is like he is keeping a tally in his head.

OP posts:
Frugalgal · 01/06/2026 19:22

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 12:52

I am trying to work out whether I am being unfair or whether my fiancé genuinely overreacts to situations.
I was spending a long weekend with him and we had plans for Monday. Friday to Sunday eve were lovely and we did sightseeing etc. then went to his and were planning to stay there for a few nights.

However, I realised I had accidentally double-booked the Monday because my adult DD had arranged for me to meet her new boyfriend and his father over lunch. It was important to her and had been organised for a while. DD has is ND and has severe MH issues; this is the first "normal" relationship she has had and it's a huge deal for her.

I told my fiancé on Sunday afternoon that I would go to the lunch for a few hours and then come back afterwards so we could still spend the Monday evening together and the following days.

He was furious. He said I was choosing other people over him and repeatedly referred to my daughter's boyfriend and his father as "strange men". He seemed particularly upset that I would be spending time with another man, even though it was DD's BF's dad not just a random stranger.

After I had told him I had double booked and would need to go for a few hours we were arguing about it non-stop for hours. I was crying at one point and I kept saying I was sorry, it was human error, not deliberate. After all this arguing I was tired and wanted to stay in, but at around 11pm he insisted we go out. While we were out he deliberately started talking to a much younger woman, introduced himself to her, claimed he got her Instagram and then repeatedly talked about how he was meeting her for dinner the next day. His argument was that if I was going for lunch with strange men the next day, then why couldn't he meet up with a new person too? Even though it was not the same at all, obviously. The young woman must have been about 20 and we are both in our 40's so it just felt really weird and "off".

The argument continued after we got back to his for most of the night and I got very little sleep. The next morning I had to get an extremely expensive Uber to make sure I did not let my daughter down and miss the lunch. He had said not to come back to his after lunch but then called me when I was in the Uber and asked me to come back to his after all.

The lunch itself was lovely. Afterwards, I travelled back to his. However, when I arrived we had another argument. During it, he picked up my bags and threw them across the room in anger, they went everywhere as he threw them so hard.

He later continued to use the lunch as an example of me not caring about him enough and prioritising other people over our relationship, and how I like "strange men".

From my point of view, I attended an important family event for a few hours and still made the effort to return afterwards. From his point of view, I had disrespected him and chosen other people over him.

When I told him how much the Uber cost he took offence because I have never gotten an Uber to his even if I am running late; he said he didn't realise I have money in this way.

When I went back to his after the lunch I had to get a standing room only train in the middle of the heatwave; I don't like public transport at the best of times and he kept asking when I arrived what did I want to do; meet his friends in the pub or go straight to his. I said I don't care and was almost in tears as I was finding the journey so stressful. I didn't realise but he had me on loud speaker so all his friends heard me when I said "I don't care" and now he's saying his friends all think I am horrible and rude to him. When it was taken out of context and they didn't know we had been arguing all night and that he'd got a much younger woman's contact details the night before.

Am I missing something or was he overreacting?

Oh my God. This kind of thing makes me want to cry. The fact you can't see this vile insecure loser for what he is and are on here asking who is in the wrong, when he is practically a walking red flag who treats you like shit and actively tries to sabotage every single event in your life.

What more could he possibly do to show you how awful he is and how you deserve so much better??

Why are you, a grown woman in her 40s sitting crying while some useless prick shouts at you and throws your stuff across the room?

What would you say to your daughter or a friend who had been through the same experience??

Get away from him now and do some work on yourself so that you learn your worth and never sell yourself so short ever again.

busyd4y · 01/06/2026 19:22

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 19:04

He is from a culture which is a lot more conservative than here with regards to women's rights and has an extremely high level of women being killed every year and most of the time they get away with it.

It is like I am his possession especially since we got engaged.

Whatever the culture is you need to get away from it now before it's too late

Is there a single person who thinks this is a healthy relationship?

MrsOvertonsWindow · 01/06/2026 19:22

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 18:39

It is a bit of a shock, yes. But then on the other hand I'd not have posted if I had not been thinking that this is not right, on some level. I am reading all the posts and am grateful for all the replies.
It is different to having your friends and family say they don't like someone because with friends and family they can be protective of you and less impartial?

Or maybe they can clearly see his dangerous, controlling behaviour and see how you've changed in response to his bullying? That's being on your side.

Frankly, sod impartiality. You need support and care from those who genuinely love and care from you and can help you extract yourself from the clutches of this abusive man. Please talk to someone and get some real life support.

There's lots of brilliant advice on your thread but we're all online and if this gets tricky, you'll need some real life back up. You deserve so much better Flowers

OverheardBreakup · 01/06/2026 19:23

OP you are NOT silly and you are NOT a fool.

He has been grinding you down and taking away from you piece by piece.

Leaving is hard, and potentially dangerous. Do you have friends and family you feel you could confide in who would be able to support you in leaving? Do you feel this is something you might now start to think about?

Those demanding you leave today don’t appreciate how difficult it is to mentally break away but I hope this thread and the posts from those brave other women who have lived it has given you a glimpse into what an awful future you might have if you stay

Notasbigasithink · 01/06/2026 19:23

Sunglasses1979 · 01/06/2026 12:52

I am trying to work out whether I am being unfair or whether my fiancé genuinely overreacts to situations.
I was spending a long weekend with him and we had plans for Monday. Friday to Sunday eve were lovely and we did sightseeing etc. then went to his and were planning to stay there for a few nights.

However, I realised I had accidentally double-booked the Monday because my adult DD had arranged for me to meet her new boyfriend and his father over lunch. It was important to her and had been organised for a while. DD has is ND and has severe MH issues; this is the first "normal" relationship she has had and it's a huge deal for her.

I told my fiancé on Sunday afternoon that I would go to the lunch for a few hours and then come back afterwards so we could still spend the Monday evening together and the following days.

He was furious. He said I was choosing other people over him and repeatedly referred to my daughter's boyfriend and his father as "strange men". He seemed particularly upset that I would be spending time with another man, even though it was DD's BF's dad not just a random stranger.

After I had told him I had double booked and would need to go for a few hours we were arguing about it non-stop for hours. I was crying at one point and I kept saying I was sorry, it was human error, not deliberate. After all this arguing I was tired and wanted to stay in, but at around 11pm he insisted we go out. While we were out he deliberately started talking to a much younger woman, introduced himself to her, claimed he got her Instagram and then repeatedly talked about how he was meeting her for dinner the next day. His argument was that if I was going for lunch with strange men the next day, then why couldn't he meet up with a new person too? Even though it was not the same at all, obviously. The young woman must have been about 20 and we are both in our 40's so it just felt really weird and "off".

The argument continued after we got back to his for most of the night and I got very little sleep. The next morning I had to get an extremely expensive Uber to make sure I did not let my daughter down and miss the lunch. He had said not to come back to his after lunch but then called me when I was in the Uber and asked me to come back to his after all.

The lunch itself was lovely. Afterwards, I travelled back to his. However, when I arrived we had another argument. During it, he picked up my bags and threw them across the room in anger, they went everywhere as he threw them so hard.

He later continued to use the lunch as an example of me not caring about him enough and prioritising other people over our relationship, and how I like "strange men".

From my point of view, I attended an important family event for a few hours and still made the effort to return afterwards. From his point of view, I had disrespected him and chosen other people over him.

When I told him how much the Uber cost he took offence because I have never gotten an Uber to his even if I am running late; he said he didn't realise I have money in this way.

When I went back to his after the lunch I had to get a standing room only train in the middle of the heatwave; I don't like public transport at the best of times and he kept asking when I arrived what did I want to do; meet his friends in the pub or go straight to his. I said I don't care and was almost in tears as I was finding the journey so stressful. I didn't realise but he had me on loud speaker so all his friends heard me when I said "I don't care" and now he's saying his friends all think I am horrible and rude to him. When it was taken out of context and they didn't know we had been arguing all night and that he'd got a much younger woman's contact details the night before.

Am I missing something or was he overreacting?

DO NOT MARRY THIS MAN!!!!

dietstartstmoz · 01/06/2026 19:23

Oh @Sunglasses1979 your posts are so sad. I'm sure that you feel shocked by the responses you have had but I have to agree with everyone else on here, he is being abusive to you. This is not a healthy relationship and he is playing mind games with you. You really do need to take steps to end this relationship and block this man and keep him out of your life. He will only escalate and get more abusive the longer you stay with him.
Leave him - you really do deserve so much more 💐

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