Safeguarding at nursery?

[elephantjuiceq]

I was looking at a local nursery Facebook and they've uploaded pictures plus names of the children. Is that not safeguarding?

Photos is different than also sharing your child's name.

Nobody said otherwise.

People are suggesting it's the same thing

If you re-read the thread I think you’ll find that’s not the case.

Yes ... I never said it wasn't.

My point is that people don't always read things that carefully - you certainly don't!

You need to check what it is you actually agreed to, before you start deciding something has been done without your consent.

I did and it didn't say do you consent to name being shared

Ok then.

Name isn't image and I wouldn't hSve given consent to name being shared

Just email them that you withdraw consent. Then your child’s pics with name attached won’t be used in the future.

Hopefully all sorted.

Then tell them that. For each of my children, across two nurseries, I consented to them being in group shots that were shared, but I added to the form that I didn't want any solo shots of them to be shared and I didn't want them to be named in either case. One nursery said it was fine and they could work within those parameters, and the other nursery said in that case they would have to add the child to their no sharing list (which I was fine with).

Good lord what a lot of angst about a very easily fixed problem. Next time you go to nursery calmly explain that you are not wanting your child’s name to be put on social media and you would like to change your photo consent options. You may also, calmly, suggest that you were surprised that this is what had happened and maybe they naught want to just take a look at the wording on the consent form to make sure it is clear for parents. Problem solved.

That's quite a complicated set up.

You seem surprised that it's a Saturday issue.....

Again, noone consted to their child's name to be shared to the whole world. That wouldn't be an option. They consented to images.

Because if someone is near me in public, they will see my child and hear me use their name.

Right, hence why one nursery said they would just add DC to the no sharing list to make things simpler. The other nursery was smaller and happy to accommodate different preferences. You won't know until you ask.

Eh? Which bit of what I wrote mentioned the day????
What difference does the day make?
The solution remains the same.
Get the nursery to change your permissions. Problem solved.

Is that not safeguarding?

The term "safeguarding" refers to the protection of children or vulnerable individuals from harm, such as abuse or neglect.

If your personal family circumstances are such that your childs image being shared on social media along with their name could place them at risk of harm (for example, if you have fled a domestically abusive relationship or if your child is adopted and their biological parent is not supposed to be informed of their whereabouts) then yes, this would potentially raise a safeguarding concern.

If the issue is simply that you do not wish for your child's image to be shared on social media along with their name because that of your personal preference and comfort level, then that is a privacy concern, which is perfectly valid without needing to invoke the term "safeguarding" to make a point. Simply explain to Nursery that when you gave consent for the sharing of images you did not realise these would be posted along with your childs name and that you are not comfortable with this. They can either agree to include your child in photos but not add their name, or to keep things simpler they can not share your child's image going forward. Go back and check the policy document you signed to give consent in the first place and if you are sure it makes no mention of names being shared alongside images, it would be reasonable to politely suggest this is amended.

The nursery shared name which is personal details without consent. It's a data breach

It’s not clear how the misunderstanding of what you gave consent to arose (although I think I could hazard a guess). But I would ask yourself why you are courting conflict with strangers on the internet about this rather than contacting the nursery?

@elephantjuiceq - you’ve posted in AIBU. As has been pointed out, it’s not a safeguarding issue, it’s more about your personal (and other parents’) personal preferences not being respected. For that issue, you should address this directly with the nursery so they can check that your preferences have been recorded properly and provide you with a copy of what you signed. You can then amend if needed.

I am a bit confused by your assertion that no one consented to names being used - this suggests no parents for all children at the nursery consented. I’m surprised you know this. Is your child actually at this nursery (as you say you’ve signed forms)? Are you considering this nursery for your child and have doubts (as you say you’re looking on FB and reading reviews)?

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If you believe there's been a data breach then you'd be reasonable to raise that with them. But a data breach is not the same thing as a safeguarding issue.

I wouldn't have consented to a name being shared and it wasn't on th form. So no, we didn't consent

Yes exactly

Wait till you find out that anyone can log into the GRO website and request a copy of your child’s birth certificate for any reason of their choosing. That’ll blow your mind.

Even more reason not to publish your kids name online