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AIBU with my Mum and my garden situation?

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Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:14

For context I am closer to my Mother than I am anyone else. We get on very well, we go on minibreaks together a lot (we share interests that her and my Dad do not share so I am her 'trip' buddy go-to)and go out for lunch/dinner etc, we talk a lot, we're close. We don't have a bad relationship generally.

A few months ago I moved into a house near her.

Unfortunately, at the time of moving, I was also quite overwhelmed with work. I work part-time for a company but also have freelance work and two projects had come through at the same time as moving. I couldn't have predicted this really, nature of it but I had enough time, I just had to work very, very hard. The move had some complications and it was bad timing. I paid for help with moving when I wasn't available, also had some friends come over to help shift things etc, it went smoothly and all was fine but it was a very stressful period for me and I was very stressed and tired.

I also spent a lot of money in the move, I had some left over, but I did not want to spend it all at once, I wanted to be careful with it. I am single and live alone and I have to be a bit careful with money.

My biggest bugbear with the house was the garden. Previous occupants had flagged it all and I am a nature lover, I wanted grass, shrubs, greenery.

From day one my Mum has pressured me like anything into paying to get the garden landscaped, plants planted, everything taken away and done. She knew a fella who'd be great at it and it'd be done within a week or so. She nagged me a lot about this when all I could concentrate on was deadlines with work and doing essential things. She pressured me with some other move-related decisions which annoyed me but I gave in to those. This pressure made me so much more stressed at an already difficult time, I wasn't sleeping properly and felt myself becoming quite ill with it all.

But I did say, no, not what I want, I want to have a proper think about what I want the garden to be like, and I am too busy and distracted with work to do that currently. I also don't want someone I don't know coming in and doing it, it will stress me out. I'll think about how I want the garden, and then either do it myself or maybe get him to do it, but not yet. Really, I wanted (and still want!) to do it myself. Yes it will take a bit longer but I want to do it my way. I didn't see the urgency. Yes, the garden wasn't how I wanted it but I had too many other more pressing matters to concentrate on.

Mum put SO much pressure on me. When I said I had to be a bit careful with money as I had spent a lot on the house already, she offered to pay and was most annoyed when I didn't accept (parents are wealthy but although they paid for a lot of education for me, as a fully fledged adult I have not taken a penny from them)!

But once I had refused this, I thought that was the end of it.

One night after I had first moved in and my internet was not yet on, I was at her house doing my freelance work, and didn't finish until almost midnight. I had already worked my other job that day, it had been busy, so I was utterly shattered and gave up.

Went to say goodbye to her and she laid into me about the garden again. It may sound extreme but I was just so tired, I had switched my brain off and just wanted to go home and go to bed and I almost didn't even know what she was talking about. I said 'Mum, this has been put to bed, I am doing it myself', she wouldn't accept it and I admit that I snapped at her a little, not badly just 'Look I've worked an 18 hour shift, I cannot have this conversation now, thank you for letting me use your internet, I am going to bed'.

I felt guilty when I got home and sent her a message explaining that I have too much to do, I cannot put thoughts about the garden to the forefront of my mind when other things have urgency and that does not, and apologsised.

Again, I thought that was that.

That was about 2 months ago and she's just got back from being on holiday and came round a few days ago and started again about the garden. I have now taken a lot of the concrete up, done some planting and started to dig out bits where I want a lawn. I have done quite a lot as things have calmed at work. I got a lot of 'told you sos' (not exactly but, 'If you'd have just done what I said you'd have this all sorted by now!') and 'You wouldn't have it looking a mess had you done what I said' and again I explained that I wanted to do it myself, I am happy doing it myself, I did not and still do not want to pay a random bloke to do it, I am quite capable and I have already got a lot done.

Tonight, she rang me and the conversation again turned to my garden, only about the other part of it now which already has a lawn. I have not cut it. I like the concept of 'no mow May' and love sitting and watching pollinators and in the greenery, I know it is not everybody's 'thing' but it is mine. She said she was coming over this weekend with her strimmer'. I told her she was not! If I want it strimming I am quite capable of doing it, but I don't! I got told that the only reason I haven't done it is because I wouldn't have noticed it. I have! I just like it the way it is? It's not her garden, surely it doesn't affect her even if I don't cut the grass for years.

I love her to bits but this has become a real thorn in my side. I don't understand why it bothers her so much? She doesn't have to deal with it. As it is I am quite happy with the progress I have made so far and I don't see the massive rush.

Upon moving I was already pressured into some other decisions I am not happy with but I am putting my foot down on this one.

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TheyGrewUp · Yesterday 22:19

I sympathise. Mine does this too.

parakeet · Yesterday 22:20

Why in the name of god do you keep entertaining this shite?

Just say "I dsagree, can we drop it please?"

Then "Mum shut up!"

PorkieYorker · Yesterday 22:20

She’s way out of line. You need to set it out very clearly that if she persists with all this nagging then you will be distancing yourself.

Fibrous · Yesterday 22:24

This seems to be the thing she’s fixated on. My mother is currently visiting. She keeps going on and on about my hair, as she always does. I have really thick, wavy, grey hair (I’m 47). She keeps telling me it’s too thick. It’s too long. When am I going to start dying it again.

I see the hairdresser regularly and it’s in great condition. But she can’t cope with it!

your approach to your garden is completely correct. I have told my mother to bog off but she doesn’t listen so I just have to tune it out and ignore the fact she keeps squinting at me.

SooPanda · Yesterday 22:24

Obviously YANBU your lawn is none of her business?! Is she a “what will the neighbours think” kind of person? Surely it’s clear that works are underway and if you’re doing it yourself then you must actually enjoy gardening!

Carandache18 · Yesterday 22:26

Be careful she doesn't arrange to have it done for you as a 'surprise' gift.
Like my maple tree.

Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:28

She is a bit (about the neighbours). I mean, the way my garden is nobody can see it anyway!

@Fibrous that hair thing would drive me nuts, if you're happy with your hair surely that's the end of it?

@Carandache18 she has done something similar before, with a bush I had in a house, actually asked my partner to cut it down.

I can be quite a sarcastic person and (with other matters) have previously asked her when was it she began paying rent at my house?!

I just don't understand it. She hasn't been this bad before in all honesty.

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Wauwinet · Yesterday 22:28

Your mum needs a hobby other than you.

HedgehogsOnTheWall · Yesterday 22:31

Oh god, my mum is exactly like this too, you have my sympathies. No amount of telling her to stop going on about it will work, however firmly I word it.

giemepeace · Yesterday 22:32

May I ask how old you are? It sounds like your mum is struggling to see you as an adult. My mum certainly has strong opinions about things like how I should do my garden, but she backs off if I tell her to. I then feel her silent judgement, but at least it’s better than this, im surprised you don’t seem more angry! Credit to you.

I think a proper sit down discussion about this is warranted, not waiting for the next time she moans, but at a calm time, saying, we have to talk about this garden thing, as when you say xyz I am feeling xyz. Clear request whatever you need, ie please do not comment on it any more. If ignore what I’ve asked you, I’ll have to go home. And do it. Calmly and repeatedly, until she can respect your boundary.

Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:34

Wauwinet · Yesterday 22:28

Your mum needs a hobby other than you.

There may be something in this, if I am honest with myself. I am the youngest and the only one who isn't married with children. I appreciate her help when she gives it, and how close we are, but it is only help if it is helpful, surely, and this isn't! It's far from it. I am just fed up of hearing about it. I have got quite a lot done, I like a project and I want to be able to look at the garden in a month's time and see that I have been the one to transform it, not some random fella, daft as that may sound.

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Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:35

giemepeace · Yesterday 22:32

May I ask how old you are? It sounds like your mum is struggling to see you as an adult. My mum certainly has strong opinions about things like how I should do my garden, but she backs off if I tell her to. I then feel her silent judgement, but at least it’s better than this, im surprised you don’t seem more angry! Credit to you.

I think a proper sit down discussion about this is warranted, not waiting for the next time she moans, but at a calm time, saying, we have to talk about this garden thing, as when you say xyz I am feeling xyz. Clear request whatever you need, ie please do not comment on it any more. If ignore what I’ve asked you, I’ll have to go home. And do it. Calmly and repeatedly, until she can respect your boundary.

I am in my early 40s and, akin to my previous post, I don't think you are wrong. I do remind her of my age sometimes!

I have mentioned this to a (much more forthright than me!) friend who said 'If you wanted to shape your garden lawn into a giant cock, it would be none of her business!' 😆

Sorry posted too soon. Yes, your idea seems like it is what I am going to have to do. It's become a bone of contention. I honestly do not see the big deal. If someone I know's garden was a mess or in the process of being done, or whatever it was like, unless it somehow affected me directly I could not care less. Hence my finding it so difficult to understand why it concerns her so much.

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FancyBiscuitsLevel · Yesterday 22:36

I think you need to lose your shit at her. You’ve tried being polite. You’ve tried being firm. Losing your shit and making it so she never dares mention the garden again is all you’ve got left.

I do wish some people would realise they are pushing their loved ones into “losing their shit” territory not “backing down and giving me my own way about something it’s clear they don’t want.”

Mulledjuice · Yesterday 22:36

Is your mother my mother?

Sometimes it's easier/more effective not to argue back. I just stare blankly if she goes on, or change the subject without acknowledging what she has said.

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 22:36

Yeah she’s embarrassed by it. It reflects on her.

I’m guessing, as you were privately educated, you’ve got that MC politeness thing where everything has to be said in moderate tones through a seething smile. You need to just cut through that shit and tell her in a very blunt way that it’s pissing you off and she needs to drop it.

RainyTuesdayBlues · Yesterday 22:36

My mum is similar. Do not give in. Because once the garden is done to her liking she'll switch her focus to the next thing, then the next.

You need a grey rock phrase, 'mum, I'll decide what to do with the garden when I've time to think it through properly' or 'please stop mum' or 'shut the f up or I'll bury you under the patio', then repeat.

Or yes, distance yourself. That would be unfortunate because you have such a good relationship but do what you need to do.

Bimblebombles · Yesterday 22:37

My friends Dad just lets himself into her property and potters about doing her garden for her - I find it so weird when I go round there and he’s like “oh I just nipped in to cut the hedge”. No boundaries there at all. I wouldn’t like that.

Coffeesnob11 · Yesterday 22:38

My mum is the same. She picks something in my house that's not top priority and becomes obsessed with it. She won't take no for an answer. It bugs her so much but not me. I don't want to be bullied into doing what she wants. You have my sympathy

Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:39

Coffeesnob11 · Yesterday 22:38

My mum is the same. She picks something in my house that's not top priority and becomes obsessed with it. She won't take no for an answer. It bugs her so much but not me. I don't want to be bullied into doing what she wants. You have my sympathy

This thread is making me feel that I am not alone which is helpful, but I also sympathise!

Do you ever get the feeling to be defiant and just let the washing up pile up or the skirting board stay grubby (or whatever) just because .... (not that I do but if I was a different type of person I might)!

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Keroppi · Yesterday 22:43

Hang up on her when she goes on about it
If she wants to offer money for something why don't you let her finance something else in the house lol
It's good estate planning 😆

What's her garden like?

Daftsheep · Yesterday 22:45

My mother is similar. Once when my ex and I were away for the weekend we watched on the security camera as my parents rocked up and planted some shrub in my garden as a surprise, pulling up all my sage in the process. Not the first time they'd overstepped. Dad's no longer here and mum can't drive so she can't just show up and do what she likes but still has an opinion about what I should/shouldn't be doing. Be firm and tell her the subject is closed.

Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:46

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 22:36

Yeah she’s embarrassed by it. It reflects on her.

I’m guessing, as you were privately educated, you’ve got that MC politeness thing where everything has to be said in moderate tones through a seething smile. You need to just cut through that shit and tell her in a very blunt way that it’s pissing you off and she needs to drop it.

I can most definitely be a bit like that. I am very calm and have had therapy (for other unrelated issues) and been asked where my anger was! If it continues, I will try to be a bit more forthright.

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LongGinShortTonic · Yesterday 22:47

Give her a job. She wants to feel useful.

The last time my parents were here they painted my stairs to ‘be helpful’. They didn’t rub it down, there’s paint on the carpet, and they only got one coat done…they’ve fucked it up. It was on the list, I just hadn’t got to it.

How I wish I’d said please make me a quiche, or cut the lawn, or do a planting plan, or cost out…I dunno. But I hear you. I’d had a major operation and wasn’t meant to walk much or life. I ended up cutting the hedge so my 75 year old mother didn’t.

It’s so hard. But, give her something to do. She wants to help and make your life easier.

Thats what’s I’ve decided and it’s making my life easier to reframe it in that way.

LongGinShortTonic · Yesterday 22:48

Lift. Not life!

Hornswaddler · Yesterday 22:49

Keroppi · Yesterday 22:43

Hang up on her when she goes on about it
If she wants to offer money for something why don't you let her finance something else in the house lol
It's good estate planning 😆

What's her garden like?

Much larger than mine! Lawn mowed regularly, woe betide a 'weed' dares show up (I've loved watching the bees on the (very few) dandelions in mine which is apparently a crime) but in all honesty, she does have some bits which aren't to my taste but I'd never dream of mentioning it! None of my business and if she likes it that's the only thing that matters.

Yes. 'Mum, you know that £5k you offered me, I'd like you to spend it on my spare room instead' (I'd never do that but I appreciate your thinking)!

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