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AIBU with my Mum and my garden situation?

103 replies

Hornswaddler · 21/05/2026 22:14

For context I am closer to my Mother than I am anyone else. We get on very well, we go on minibreaks together a lot (we share interests that her and my Dad do not share so I am her 'trip' buddy go-to)and go out for lunch/dinner etc, we talk a lot, we're close. We don't have a bad relationship generally.

A few months ago I moved into a house near her.

Unfortunately, at the time of moving, I was also quite overwhelmed with work. I work part-time for a company but also have freelance work and two projects had come through at the same time as moving. I couldn't have predicted this really, nature of it but I had enough time, I just had to work very, very hard. The move had some complications and it was bad timing. I paid for help with moving when I wasn't available, also had some friends come over to help shift things etc, it went smoothly and all was fine but it was a very stressful period for me and I was very stressed and tired.

I also spent a lot of money in the move, I had some left over, but I did not want to spend it all at once, I wanted to be careful with it. I am single and live alone and I have to be a bit careful with money.

My biggest bugbear with the house was the garden. Previous occupants had flagged it all and I am a nature lover, I wanted grass, shrubs, greenery.

From day one my Mum has pressured me like anything into paying to get the garden landscaped, plants planted, everything taken away and done. She knew a fella who'd be great at it and it'd be done within a week or so. She nagged me a lot about this when all I could concentrate on was deadlines with work and doing essential things. She pressured me with some other move-related decisions which annoyed me but I gave in to those. This pressure made me so much more stressed at an already difficult time, I wasn't sleeping properly and felt myself becoming quite ill with it all.

But I did say, no, not what I want, I want to have a proper think about what I want the garden to be like, and I am too busy and distracted with work to do that currently. I also don't want someone I don't know coming in and doing it, it will stress me out. I'll think about how I want the garden, and then either do it myself or maybe get him to do it, but not yet. Really, I wanted (and still want!) to do it myself. Yes it will take a bit longer but I want to do it my way. I didn't see the urgency. Yes, the garden wasn't how I wanted it but I had too many other more pressing matters to concentrate on.

Mum put SO much pressure on me. When I said I had to be a bit careful with money as I had spent a lot on the house already, she offered to pay and was most annoyed when I didn't accept (parents are wealthy but although they paid for a lot of education for me, as a fully fledged adult I have not taken a penny from them)!

But once I had refused this, I thought that was the end of it.

One night after I had first moved in and my internet was not yet on, I was at her house doing my freelance work, and didn't finish until almost midnight. I had already worked my other job that day, it had been busy, so I was utterly shattered and gave up.

Went to say goodbye to her and she laid into me about the garden again. It may sound extreme but I was just so tired, I had switched my brain off and just wanted to go home and go to bed and I almost didn't even know what she was talking about. I said 'Mum, this has been put to bed, I am doing it myself', she wouldn't accept it and I admit that I snapped at her a little, not badly just 'Look I've worked an 18 hour shift, I cannot have this conversation now, thank you for letting me use your internet, I am going to bed'.

I felt guilty when I got home and sent her a message explaining that I have too much to do, I cannot put thoughts about the garden to the forefront of my mind when other things have urgency and that does not, and apologsised.

Again, I thought that was that.

That was about 2 months ago and she's just got back from being on holiday and came round a few days ago and started again about the garden. I have now taken a lot of the concrete up, done some planting and started to dig out bits where I want a lawn. I have done quite a lot as things have calmed at work. I got a lot of 'told you sos' (not exactly but, 'If you'd have just done what I said you'd have this all sorted by now!') and 'You wouldn't have it looking a mess had you done what I said' and again I explained that I wanted to do it myself, I am happy doing it myself, I did not and still do not want to pay a random bloke to do it, I am quite capable and I have already got a lot done.

Tonight, she rang me and the conversation again turned to my garden, only about the other part of it now which already has a lawn. I have not cut it. I like the concept of 'no mow May' and love sitting and watching pollinators and in the greenery, I know it is not everybody's 'thing' but it is mine. She said she was coming over this weekend with her strimmer'. I told her she was not! If I want it strimming I am quite capable of doing it, but I don't! I got told that the only reason I haven't done it is because I wouldn't have noticed it. I have! I just like it the way it is? It's not her garden, surely it doesn't affect her even if I don't cut the grass for years.

I love her to bits but this has become a real thorn in my side. I don't understand why it bothers her so much? She doesn't have to deal with it. As it is I am quite happy with the progress I have made so far and I don't see the massive rush.

Upon moving I was already pressured into some other decisions I am not happy with but I am putting my foot down on this one.

OP posts:
Grumpynan · 22/05/2026 08:37

Before everyone jumps on me I know I shouldn’t have listened but the tables were close together and tbh I was cheering on the daughter 😀. I was in a coffee shop yesterday and an older woman was going on and on to obviously her dd about the state of her house, if she had knocked through it would be lighter if she kept up with the house work it would be easier she went on and on.

the dd response - that’s YOUR opinion mum

constantly just kept saying it, whatever her mum said she replied “ mmm but that’s your opinion “

I loved it, and have made a mental note to use it - frequently

Fizzybluewater · 22/05/2026 08:45

Mulledjuice · 21/05/2026 22:36

Is your mother my mother?

Sometimes it's easier/more effective not to argue back. I just stare blankly if she goes on, or change the subject without acknowledging what she has said.

I used to grey rock my mum. It took time and ignoring my phone messages half the time. But it eventually worked.
Enjoy YOUR garden OP.
In your shoes if mine ever dared to go over my head and get someone in to do it whilst I was out /on holiday WWlll would break out with no regrets or apologies from me.

Imgoingtobefree · 22/05/2026 08:48

I’m going to suggest a slightly different rack.

I was given the book The Garden Jungle (Gardening to Save the Planet) by Dave Goulson. This sounds right up your street - it’s no mow May, encouraging wildlife even the pests etc, it’s a fabulous book. It’s how we should all be gardening.

Im rather evangelical about its practices and I can bore for England. It’s viewpoint is now my viewpoint and anyone seeing my passion for this way of gardening now seems to just know to back off with their views or try to tell me what to do in my own garden.

Perhaps if she can see you have a clear and passionate view and a clear end goal and vision for your garden she will begin to see that you don’t need her ‘help’.

I think it’s possible that as you have such a close relationship with her, she’s been getting away with telling you what to do a bit more than most mothers, but this is the first time you’ve had opposing views.

665theneighborofthebeast · 22/05/2026 08:51

I am imagining your mum as the type who cannot countenance the idea of knitting a jumper when you could just "pop to m&s " and buy one.
Not understanding of the slow quiet joy of creating something, making the choices, taking time to choose patterns and yarns, working through a process seeing it grow, getting it wrong and going back to do it again.
I am picturing her, sat in her slightly tight jumper, refusing to admit it is a little bit itchy and not quite the colour she wanted. Telling you what a lot of lovely jumpers they have in the shops and demanding that you stop wasting your time.

Sound about right?

If she is capable of understanding then you perhaps need to explain it is the process of making the garden that is what you are focussed on, not "Having a finished garden" that she should think of it like your creative therapy and that to be presented with a finished garden which you have not participated in would be the opposite of what you want.

If you want to be kind you could ask her to come to some garden centers with you. You might after all like some beautiful pots to put a few plants in to give a focal point whilst you work at your own pace on other parts of the garden..and a nice chair to sit in whilst you enjoying looking at your progress. You could perhaps accept those as gifts if she really wants to help you in your garden?

Candleabra · 22/05/2026 08:53

BigFrau · 22/05/2026 00:08

Don't do no mow May, it's bad for wildlife

I wondered about this, what happens in June when you mow over the new habitat. Is the thinking that it’s better to give up a small patch to wild permanently?

Seaitoverthere · 22/05/2026 08:55

I think this is a hill you need to die on as it sets the tone for moving forward and her older age.

How about the next time she starts saying you’ve told her what is happening with the garden so would appreciate if she respects that and no need mention it again but if she feels like spending money on you in relation to gardens what about the 2 of you going to Chelsea next year (if that is a possibility location wise) as you will be further advanced with your plans by then and it would be good to get some inspiration for the next stages of your redesign.

BigFrau · 22/05/2026 08:59

Candleabra · 22/05/2026 08:53

I wondered about this, what happens in June when you mow over the new habitat. Is the thinking that it’s better to give up a small patch to wild permanently?

Yes, it's better to leave an area of your garden to grow wild permanently if you can, or for as long as you can. With NMM, wildlife (both plants and creatures) establish themselves in the area or start to visit it for food, then it's suddenly cut down in June. Better to have a few messy areas here and there in your garden for longer. And a good excuse not to have to tidy everywhere!

CaesarAugusta · 22/05/2026 09:04

Can you tell her that the words "garden", "lawn" and anything related to them are banned in conversation until she can learn to stop obsessing about them? That means that the first time she mentions them you will change the subject, the second time you will ring off/walk away from the conversation. Eventually it might get through to her.

DontReplyAll · 22/05/2026 09:05

You moved to her area. She feels you and by extension you home, reflects on her.

I’d guess that someone she knows lives near by you, or passes your home regularly.

Twisterr · 22/05/2026 09:15

Grumpynan · 22/05/2026 08:37

Before everyone jumps on me I know I shouldn’t have listened but the tables were close together and tbh I was cheering on the daughter 😀. I was in a coffee shop yesterday and an older woman was going on and on to obviously her dd about the state of her house, if she had knocked through it would be lighter if she kept up with the house work it would be easier she went on and on.

the dd response - that’s YOUR opinion mum

constantly just kept saying it, whatever her mum said she replied “ mmm but that’s your opinion “

I loved it, and have made a mental note to use it - frequently

That’s a handy phrase - but it doesn’t seem to have had any impact. The DD becomes a parrot and nag. Time for consequences and actions. “I am finding your unsolicited opinions tiresome. If you continue this behaviour I will get up and go home.” I had to do this to a friend once who was obsessed with the fallout amongst my siblings from my mother’s will. I told her to stop asking questions and giving opinions twice and then I said if you mention this again, I will immediately leave the restaurant. Cue the tears. I let them fall and she composed herself in a few minutes. She’d obviously never been given feedback / told to back off before. But it reset our relationship but I have to admit I am managing her rather than it being an open, reciprocal and equal friendship.

Just communication calmly with an action. I love the hand up, “enough” and walking away approach of PP.

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/05/2026 09:33

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 08:23

Don't tell your mum to shut up. Who does that.

Someone whose mum refuses to listen to being told to stop trying to control them dozens of times, won't stop going on about it and doesnt care that their daughter has had it up to here.

Chilly80 · 22/05/2026 10:05

I would start saying if you bring up my garden again I am ending the conversation and if she continues hang up the phone or leave the room.

BoredZelda · 22/05/2026 10:09

RainyTuesdayBlues · 21/05/2026 22:36

My mum is similar. Do not give in. Because once the garden is done to her liking she'll switch her focus to the next thing, then the next.

You need a grey rock phrase, 'mum, I'll decide what to do with the garden when I've time to think it through properly' or 'please stop mum' or 'shut the f up or I'll bury you under the patio', then repeat.

Or yes, distance yourself. That would be unfortunate because you have such a good relationship but do what you need to do.

Ooh, I love this as a response “mum, if I’m getting anyone in to do the garden it will be to bury you under the patio”

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 12:11

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/05/2026 09:33

Someone whose mum refuses to listen to being told to stop trying to control them dozens of times, won't stop going on about it and doesnt care that their daughter has had it up to here.

Nope

Comtesse · 22/05/2026 12:31

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 12:11

Nope

Oh come on. OP’s mum has gone too far. She is not listening and is being very rude by going on and on when her input is not wanted. A short sharp retort is not unreasonable. Maybe you’d prefer “knock it off” or “give it a rest” - but she is behaving very unreasonably with her adult daughter and “shut up” is pretty mild given the level of provocation.

Wickedlittledancer · 22/05/2026 13:10

Comtesse · 22/05/2026 12:31

Oh come on. OP’s mum has gone too far. She is not listening and is being very rude by going on and on when her input is not wanted. A short sharp retort is not unreasonable. Maybe you’d prefer “knock it off” or “give it a rest” - but she is behaving very unreasonably with her adult daughter and “shut up” is pretty mild given the level of provocation.

But I suspect she’s elderly, and there maybe more going on, the op says she’s never behaved like this, she’s 40 or so and she’s the youngest. So it’s feasible this woman is in her 70s. It could be dementia.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/05/2026 13:21

This raises my hackles, because my garden has been ruined, and my FIL has been chipping away at it with comments and "help" that involved ripping out a lovely plant and breaking a step which I kept tripping on when pregnant.

I'd not want her in or near your garden, put up a complete barrier around it mentally and physically until you're happy with it.

Hellometime · 22/05/2026 13:23

Teapotparadise81 · 22/05/2026 00:15

About 8 year's ago, my parent was the same. Totally fixated on a particular topic and simply just did not seem to understand the word no.

They would shut up about it but then a week or so later asked the same thing!

It really confused us all at the time. We were like "why do they keep not being able to take no for an answer?"

On reflection, this was probably the first sign of their dementia.

I was going to say how old is she. Being fixated on it when she’s been repeatedly told could be an early sign of dementia.
I like the letter suggestion. It’s my garden. Please don’t mention it again.

Stanislas · 22/05/2026 13:39

Ask her help in researching a poison garden like at Alnwick or say you are planning a witches garden. Get her overrun with research fo r you as in I need ground cover with blue flowers or I must have perennials with variegated leaves.

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/05/2026 14:38

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 12:11

Nope

Yup.

tealandteal · 22/05/2026 14:47

Is your mum my mum? I showed her around my allotment last week which I am very proud of, I have brought it back from weeds, built raised beds myself, scrimped to afford plants/seeds and tidied it up. She text my husband that evening saying I needed to put more manure on it and did he have a wheelbarrow so she could do it without telling me!

Coffecakeicing · 22/05/2026 14:54

Do not give in.
This is batshit behaviour and absolutely controlling.
She doesn't see you as an adult, but as a child to grind down and frankly control.
I also think this must be damaging your relationship and you need to perhaps step back a bit from this co dependent relationship you have with her.
I really don't think her over involvement is healthy for either of you.

Has she a key?
If so, its a very bad idea.
I would honestly be worried she might enter your house without your permission.
Her boundaries are very poor.

You need to assert yours fimly, but calmly.

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 15:04

Error404FucksNotFound · 22/05/2026 14:38

Yup.

Obviously we can go back and forth like this. Probably a difference in culture

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 15:05

Comtesse · 22/05/2026 12:31

Oh come on. OP’s mum has gone too far. She is not listening and is being very rude by going on and on when her input is not wanted. A short sharp retort is not unreasonable. Maybe you’d prefer “knock it off” or “give it a rest” - but she is behaving very unreasonably with her adult daughter and “shut up” is pretty mild given the level of provocation.

Just couldn't imagine telling a parent to shut up. It's so disrespectful. But perhaps a reflection of my culture, I'll accept that.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 22/05/2026 16:54

LiteraryBambi · 22/05/2026 15:05

Just couldn't imagine telling a parent to shut up. It's so disrespectful. But perhaps a reflection of my culture, I'll accept that.

In your culture, is it also normal for a parent to be so dogmatic and pushy about a grown child's private property?

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