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AIBU to think Reform councillors don’t know what they’re doing?

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Wouldcou · 21/05/2026 19:39

Reform councillor saying that she doesn’t understand the process. This is the reality of what people voted for.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNRnRo3eg/

Also see the amount of Reform Councillors who have quit or defected.

Reform UK has shed 22 councillors and counting in the two weeks since the local council elections on 7 May, triggering a series of costly by-elections.

While Reform won over 1,400 seats in the recent local council elections, Nigel Farage’s party is also shelling councillors to defections, suspensions and lost seats.

Stuart Prior, who was elected as a Reform UK councillor for Essex County Council and for Rochford District Council resigned on Monday 11 May, just days after winning these council seats.

Before the elections, it was revealed that Prior had shared racist posts on social media referring to white people as “the master race” and suggesting white people have “larger brains”.

Less than a week after being elected, Glenn Gibbins, a Reform councillor on Sunderland City Council was also suspended for posting racist comments Gibbons said that the Nigerian population in Sunderland should be melted down to “fill in potholes”.

On the BBC’s Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg programme on 10 May, Reform’s deputy leader, Richard Tice, was asked if he was happy for someone with these views to represent Reform.

Tice refused to condemn Gibbins’ comments and instead accused the media of “smearing” and “sneering” against Reform.
Ben Rowe, who was recently elected to Plymouth City Council has also been suspended for anti-Islam and antisemitic posts.

The posts were unearthed before the local elections, prompting Reform to say it was investigating the claims.

Another Reform councillor, Barry Martin, who said that the job of a councillor was “so dull and boring” resigned just a year after taking his seat.

Reform Party UK Exposed has published the full list of Reform councillor departures so far:
Lost seats on 7 May

  • Mike Morris
  • Clarence Mitchell
  • Alan Cook
  • Mark Shooter
  • Kira Gabbert
Resigned
  • Daniel Devaney
  • Stuart Prior
  • Jay Cooper
  • Barry Martin
  • Stephen Mousdell
  • Andrew Harrison
  • Kenny Hope
  • Danielle Cavanagh
Defected
  • Nick Farmer
  • Ashley Monk
  • Jo Monk
  • Matthew Jones
Suspended
  • Ben Rowe
  • Glenn Gibbins
  • Paul Heyward
  • Nathaniel Menday
  • Laura Newham
Dr David Bull, Reform’s former party chair has also been replaced by Lee Anderson, the Reform MP for Ashfield. In a post announcing Bull’s departure on Facebook, Reform said it was “delighted” that Anderson has become the party’s new chair, adding: “David Bull has overseen unprecedented growth in his time as Chairman and will still remain heavily involved in the party”.

Reform Party UK Exposed 🇬🇧 (@reformexposed) on X

Reform UK Gone Since the Local Elections Dr David Bull has been sacked as Chair.

https://x.com/reformexposed/status/2056603510729220401

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OneTealShaker · Yesterday 08:18

Danhausenrocks · Yesterday 07:34

I suggest you look at this

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

the data only goes back 7 days but for weeks the number of small boats has been 0

the ONS data yesterday confirmed immigration has dropped. Asylum seekers are down.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyp1ekd584o

the economy has risen 0.8% in the first quarter, comparable with other nations.

NHS waiting lists are confirmed to be down.

but who cares about actual facts hey?

Oh dear. Your optimism is borderline delusional. But credit to you for looking for a silver lining.

The country is a mess. A total and utter mess.

Clutching at straws there looking at last 7 days of boat arrivals. And an economy who can has barely grown in the last 20 years.

Firetreev · Yesterday 08:18

5128gap · Yesterday 07:42

Her point is to bring attention to the issues we are seeing already when Reform candidates are in office.
A Reform government is only an inevitability if sufficient intelligent, decent people remain unaware of the incompetence, misogyny, racism and other extremism within their ranks.
Because I believe the majority of their supporters, while attracted to some of their policies for sure, would not be so stupid as to overlook these serious issues.
There will be some who in their blind hatred for anything slightly left of right would still vote for a pig in a turquoise rosette. But I'm hoping that you're in a minority. And that when intelligent thoughtful voters learn the reality of Reform with power (as highlighted by the OP) and the true extent of some of the racism, anti semiticism and misogyny of some of their representatives, they will pause for thought.

I think the issue is many of there voters aren't very bright, but you're very gracious giving them the benefit of the doubt. Around 30% of any given population aren't very bright and 30% are also drawn to authoritarianism. I would suspect the venn diagram of the two groups would almost be a circle. Additionally, only two in ten Reform voters are university educated. Now there are many other ways to be intelligent than having a degree, but most university students are taught to think critically critically and this is something Reform voters seem incapable of.

Danhausenrocks · Yesterday 08:21

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 08:18

Oh dear. Your optimism is borderline delusional. But credit to you for looking for a silver lining.

The country is a mess. A total and utter mess.

Clutching at straws there looking at last 7 days of boat arrivals. And an economy who can has barely grown in the last 20 years.

If you want to be negative and blinded by hate that’s on you, but how dare you fuck up the country for everyone else when the facts PROVE that immigration is down, NhS is getting better, the economy is growing,

what else do you actually want?

hedgeknight · Yesterday 08:24

More on Makerfield's candidate Kenyon

https://searchlightmagazine.com/2026/05/reforms-makerfield-candidate-scrubs-fascist-leader-from-his-facebook-friends/

Raikes has pictures of himself wearing a fascist uniform, hard to miss.

Tooprincipled · Yesterday 08:25

Have worked in an LA for years but have handed in my notice. Can't work with them.

Bikenutz · Yesterday 08:27

Absolute shit show. These people are supposed to represent our interests. It’s an important job, not an ideological jolly.

Put people in charge of things like social care who don’t understand, and you’re risking real harm and neglect to vulnerable people.

Bad decisions lead to services being cut, money being wasted, and experienced staff leaving, so everything starts to unravel. Worst case = safeguarding failures, services collapsing, and government stepping in.

When central government has to step in, local democracy is eroded further. Maybe that’s the endgame Reform’s leadership want?

RampantIvy · Yesterday 08:30

Danhausenrocks · Yesterday 07:40

I hate that reform have taken control over Suffolk county council. Their first priority has been to waste £100k on a legal bid to try and stop the county beig devolved in march.

even though it’s already been confirmed an appeal doesn’t meet the legal threshold

in comparison my ward elected a Tory councillor. I didn’t vote for him but I actually wish I had. Since being elected, every few days he’s been on our villageFB page

first, he introduced himself saying “hi, I’m your new councillor I know many of you didn’t vote for me but that’s all good. I’m here for everyone and I want to make this a better place regardless if party. My priorities are xyz and as soon as I get my email address I want you to get in touch with me to tell me your priorities”

then he messaged again to say “here are my contact details for everyone, I want to be visible so I’ll be setting up times when you cal all talk to me in person”

Then last week it was a post about “there’s a lot of confusion about the difference between a district and a county councillor so this is the details of what I can/can’t do, this is how the system works, this is where it escalates etc”

THAT is what we should all be expecting of our elected representatives. Already I have a level of trust in him that he’s genuinely there to help.

Our local Labour guy is very visible. He is an oncologist who works a 4 day week and spends every Thursday addressing local concerns. He is very visible, does what he says he is going to do, takes it in turn to visit each village in his constituency, talks to local people and is an all round good guy. I know people who don't normally vote Labour but who voted for him.

He is very well liked.

Danhausenrocks · Yesterday 08:38

That’s lovely @RampantIvy its what councillors should be doing. There are some brilliant people out there who genuinely want to improve peoples lives. We should be doing all we can to elect these people.

CaringForMyElderlyDad · Yesterday 08:41

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:20

Hats your point? Reform will still be the next government. So you can protest all you want.

The salty folks should have thought about this before being cheerleaders for uncontrolled immigration, sky high taxes and giving benefits for fun and the crazy woke policies they live so much. You can hate Reform, but there’s more to come.

I think this post is a really good example of the problem.

Reform supporters genuinely don't care how racist, misogynistic or incompetent Reform representatives are. They intend to carry on voting for them regardless, simply because they are angry with the "establishment" and want to give the traditional parties a kicking.

It doesn't appear that many of them have thought much about what consequences they might have to deal with after they have achieved that kicking.

It's all very well voting for a monumental act of self harm so that people can enjoy the short term satisfaction of seeing the people they don't like humiliated. The trouble is, they are then going to have to live with that decision. I don't think many of them have really thought that far.

Greedybilly · Yesterday 08:42

People treat it like some sort of exciting game - it really isn't. Sad state of affairs but not surprising.

PermanentTemporary · Yesterday 08:45

I’m also accepting that there will be competent and committed people who stood for Reform - it’s hard to imagine I would agree with them about much but I’ve no doubt there will be some well-meaning people involved somehow, simply because most people are. I hope that seeing what a bunch they are being lumped in with makes them consider standing as independents or moving to another party tbh.

randomchap · Yesterday 08:48

Bikenutz · Yesterday 08:27

Absolute shit show. These people are supposed to represent our interests. It’s an important job, not an ideological jolly.

Put people in charge of things like social care who don’t understand, and you’re risking real harm and neglect to vulnerable people.

Bad decisions lead to services being cut, money being wasted, and experienced staff leaving, so everything starts to unravel. Worst case = safeguarding failures, services collapsing, and government stepping in.

When central government has to step in, local democracy is eroded further. Maybe that’s the endgame Reform’s leadership want?

The cynic in me thinks that Reform will be happy if their councils do an awful job. Then at the General Election, they can point out how broken Britain is, for example Social Care, roads, etc, and that voting for Reform will fix it.

They'll know that a good percentage of the voting public don't understand which layer of government is responsible for what.

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 08:49

Danhausenrocks · Yesterday 08:38

That’s lovely @RampantIvy its what councillors should be doing. There are some brilliant people out there who genuinely want to improve peoples lives. We should be doing all we can to elect these people.

It’s what all politicians should be doing. We have a Tory MP (who I wouldn’t have voted for in a million years) and he’s excellent. Very active in the constituency and takes his responsibility very seriously. Reform is on the rise round here and I’m now contemplating voting Tory for the first time in my life.

Erin1975 · Yesterday 08:51

I suspect a lot of the people elected didn't understand what being a councillor entails. It's not just attending the odd meeting. The job takes up around 30 hours per week as a minimum. There is no salary, only an allowance of around £12k per year.

It's also a pretty thankless task. Everyone is an expert when it comes to running a council, yet few have any idea about the budget constraints they try to manage. They get blamed for everything and councillors are bombarded with abuse via the internet on a pretty much daily basis.

Superhansrantowindsor · Yesterday 08:51

The country is a mess. At least from where I am looking. Housing too expensive, young people can’t get jobs, spiralling student debt, high streets boarded up, dire public transport for most places outside London, SEND reform missing, schools underfunded, NHS waiting lists .. I could go on. I don’t know what the answer is but I know it isn’t Reform.

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:53

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:20

Hats your point? Reform will still be the next government. So you can protest all you want.

The salty folks should have thought about this before being cheerleaders for uncontrolled immigration, sky high taxes and giving benefits for fun and the crazy woke policies they live so much. You can hate Reform, but there’s more to come.

Not quite, according to the polls. They would have to chum up with the Tories as they wouldn't have a majority. Plus their lead is slowly shrinking in the polls with three years still to go.

cheezncrackers · Yesterday 08:53

ilovesooty · 21/05/2026 22:33

I don't suppose most of the people who voted for them will care.

They will if their council tax goes up or local services are cut because that money is being wasted on people to teach these fuckwits how to do the job they volunteered and are being paid to do!

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:54

cheezncrackers · Yesterday 08:53

They will if their council tax goes up or local services are cut because that money is being wasted on people to teach these fuckwits how to do the job they volunteered and are being paid to do!

They'll just blame Starmer or whoever is PM. Or immigrants.

CaringForMyElderlyDad · Yesterday 08:58

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:54

They'll just blame Starmer or whoever is PM. Or immigrants.

Edited

Yes, that is exactly what happens in my Reform council area, 1 year in. There is very little understanding of who is responsible for what.

Dolphinnoises · Yesterday 08:58

OneTealShaker · Yesterday 07:20

Hats your point? Reform will still be the next government. So you can protest all you want.

The salty folks should have thought about this before being cheerleaders for uncontrolled immigration, sky high taxes and giving benefits for fun and the crazy woke policies they live so much. You can hate Reform, but there’s more to come.

Do you actually care about this country? You sound like a crazy ex-husband burning down the house he half owns because his CMS bill is too high

FernandoSor · Yesterday 08:58

cheezncrackers · Yesterday 08:53

They will if their council tax goes up or local services are cut because that money is being wasted on people to teach these fuckwits how to do the job they volunteered and are being paid to do!

They’ll blame the national government.

justasking111 · Yesterday 09:00

It's not just reform. I sometimes listen to our council meetings podcasts. Councillors who have been in place for years. It's embarrassing how dense they are. Trouble is despite the money people who should stand won't or can't.

cheezncrackers · Yesterday 09:03

TemperanceWest · Yesterday 08:54

They'll just blame Starmer or whoever is PM. Or immigrants.

Edited

Actually, you're right. Critical thinking is definitely not the strong suit of the average Reform voter.

As for the quote about melting down Nigerians to fill the potholes in Sunderland, yes that was an actual quote. Not only did Laura Kuenssberg ask Richard Tice about it on her programme, but he didn't even attempt to deny that it happened.