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Has Labour taken it literally when people said they are ‘doom and gloom’ and are now giving discounts to theme parks and kid’s attractions as a bit of fun?

349 replies

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 13:00

Whilst these are all quite ‘sweet’ initiatives and will help some families. Lower price theme park entry and cinema tickets don’t really help average working families with the cost of living crisis. Am I just being a grump?

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Pancakesandcream33 · 21/05/2026 21:36

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 20:31

Where do you suggest the money for meaningful tax cuts comes from? Hunt’s reduction in NI cost £10 billion. How many billions would further tax cuts cost? There are three ways to balance the books - borrowing, higher taxation and cutting public services. Borrowing is out of the question, higher taxation is manifesto busting and public services are already cut to the bone - and you want tax cuts while accusing others of economic illiteracy?

If they reduced the billions of pounds they send abroad as aid, or the billions they pour into funding wars that aren't ours, then there would be plenty of money to help our economy. I am the first to help someone and I often defend the migrants but we can't house the migrants, keep funding Ukraine, keep sending aid to developing countries, keep increasing taxes and underfund our own national services and local communities - all while telling people to work 60 years so the government can pocket half your wage and then graciously give you less back in your state pension than what's needed to heat your home and eat 3 meals a day. The government is bonkers and so is anyone that agrees with their tax policies

DuncinToffee · 21/05/2026 21:39

Seabiscuit111 · 21/05/2026 21:34

Welfare?

Are you in receipt of benefits?

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Pensions are the largest share of the Welfare budget

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 21:40

MNLurker1345 · 21/05/2026 20:21

No, blame the comms!

It's desperation.

Seabiscuit111 · 21/05/2026 21:41

DuncinToffee · 21/05/2026 21:39

Pensions are the largest share of the Welfare budget

I expect the working age to contribute more than the elderly - but those are just my values - perhaps you don’t share them?

DuncinToffee · 21/05/2026 21:45

Seabiscuit111 · 21/05/2026 21:41

I expect the working age to contribute more than the elderly - but those are just my values - perhaps you don’t share them?

I have no idea what your values are so you could be right.

Seabiscuit111 · 21/05/2026 21:46

DuncinToffee · 21/05/2026 21:45

I have no idea what your values are so you could be right.

Shameful that many are happy to take state handouts.

Utterly shameful.

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 21:47

Golden407 · 21/05/2026 18:30

Average cost of a childrens meal in a restaurant in the UK without VAT £7.20. With 20% VAT added it’s £8.64.
Under the discounted scheme at 5% VAT it will be £7.56.

Maybe I’m just being miserable but I can’t see a £1 saving per child making a huge difference to the footfall in a restaurant.

i may be wrong

Particularly when the average household is going to be hit with an increase in energy bills of over £200 shortly.

Peoplesfrontofjudea2000 · 21/05/2026 21:53

Katypp · 21/05/2026 19:37

It depends where your allegiances lie, i I suppose. It's easier to forgive and/or justify if you support Labour than if you don't.
I don't support Labour (or at least, not this current lot) nor, to be clear, do I support Reform of Farage.
But I think Labour's glasses/Taylor Swift debacle is just as serious because

  1. They made a big show of getting rid of freebies and spent a lot of time baying at the Tories for taking freebies, so this proved them to be massive hypocrites. The value of the freebies is - to me, as a non-Labour supporter, irrelevant. It's the principle of saving one thing and doing another
  2. Starmer and the other freebie recipients were serving in Government at the time. Farage was not.

I don’t forgive Labour’s failure to understand people in glass houses don’t throw stones and I accept that there always going to be ‘gifting’ in politics and MP’s, opposition and government . Sadly I don’t think it’s realistic to think we can eliminate it. BUT Labour declared their freebies, the Tories and Farage didn’t and that’s the issue for me. If it was within the rules that applied to everyone then if I don’t agree I can get the rules changed.If I don’t know about it, I can’t do anything. Transparency is the key point. The fact Farage and Johnson weren’t suggests they knew it wasn’t within the rules and tried to hide it.

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 22:02

Seabiscuit111 · 21/05/2026 21:06

Cut welfare perhaps?

Never going to happen.

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 22:03

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 21:47

Particularly when the average household is going to be hit with an increase in energy bills of over £200 shortly.

There is help coming but guess what - it’s targeted.

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 22:06

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 22:03

There is help coming but guess what - it’s targeted.

Would it be anything else. 🙄Thankfully, Rachel has confirmed that she'll still be the Chancellor in the Autumn. The UK is in safe hands.

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 22:14

Peoplesfrontofjudea2000 · 21/05/2026 21:53

I don’t forgive Labour’s failure to understand people in glass houses don’t throw stones and I accept that there always going to be ‘gifting’ in politics and MP’s, opposition and government . Sadly I don’t think it’s realistic to think we can eliminate it. BUT Labour declared their freebies, the Tories and Farage didn’t and that’s the issue for me. If it was within the rules that applied to everyone then if I don’t agree I can get the rules changed.If I don’t know about it, I can’t do anything. Transparency is the key point. The fact Farage and Johnson weren’t suggests they knew it wasn’t within the rules and tried to hide it.

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Labour weren't transparent either. Starmer didn't declare all his gifts until he was found out.

aurpod1980 · 21/05/2026 22:19

People can no longer afford restaurants as the cost of food has gone up, the business rates have gone up, labour costs have gone up, NI etc so this is all passed to the consumer.

This government is trying to a sort of eat out to help out.. but it’s not going to work. Alongside VAT on school fees - it’s a total mess.

The recent SEND white paper consultation was horrific and hard work to round it off she’s got Gemma Collins advertising the DofE. BP, RR and KS I’m absolutely disgusted with them all.

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 22:20

i genuinely think Labour will be wiped clean out at the next election. It took the Tory party 14 years of fuck ups, so far it’s taken Labour two and I’m speaking as someone who voted for them.

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Sunglade · 21/05/2026 22:22

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 22:20

i genuinely think Labour will be wiped clean out at the next election. It took the Tory party 14 years of fuck ups, so far it’s taken Labour two and I’m speaking as someone who voted for them.

I feel similar, being a Labour voter myself.

I feel like one of the disadvantages of Labour is that their main supporters are often too busy working/ too tired from working so hard to bother their MPs. While the ones with no jobs have all time time and energy to write/ harass their MP. If half of us working had a minute left in the day we might actually be able to have more of a say!

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 22:26

@Sungladeoh I bothered my MP. I cried on him as I told him line by line of my financial situation and he emphatically said he’d help as he was bought up by a single mother. Then it took over a year of me chasing him to get any follow up - which essentially said yeah I can’t/won’t do anything. And proceeds to go for easy win good news stories on his Facebook page. In comparison my Tory MP would respond to my every email with a detailed response without a few weeks! The backbenchers haven’t got a fucking clue how to run a country or an economy! They will never get my vote again!

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Neveranynamesleft · 21/05/2026 22:33

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:48

Not if more people go. And they won’t if Merlin fail to pass on the VAT cut.

They wont/ can't go if they simply dont have the money to spend on a day out at a theme park or whatever regardless of whether the bus is free or not.

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 22:39

Sunglade · 21/05/2026 22:22

I feel similar, being a Labour voter myself.

I feel like one of the disadvantages of Labour is that their main supporters are often too busy working/ too tired from working so hard to bother their MPs. While the ones with no jobs have all time time and energy to write/ harass their MP. If half of us working had a minute left in the day we might actually be able to have more of a say!

Same. Single working mum too knackered to complain except on here

RedToothBrush · 21/05/2026 22:43

It's utter garbage.

DS hasn't eaten a kids meal for years. He grew out of them since he's 8.

Peoplesfrontofjudea2000 · 21/05/2026 22:51

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 22:14

Labour weren't transparent either. Starmer didn't declare all his gifts until he was found out.

He declared them late which is actually quite common for MPs, and can be because you miss the deadline or in Starmers case updated compliance advice. It’s because he was late it was picked up, he could have not declared to avoid the media storm. But it’s better to declare it late than not declaring at all. The media storm was schadenfreude and bad political optics but he did declare his gifts. The others didn’t

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/05/2026 22:54

Peoplesfrontofjudea2000 · 21/05/2026 22:51

He declared them late which is actually quite common for MPs, and can be because you miss the deadline or in Starmers case updated compliance advice. It’s because he was late it was picked up, he could have not declared to avoid the media storm. But it’s better to declare it late than not declaring at all. The media storm was schadenfreude and bad political optics but he did declare his gifts. The others didn’t

He declared them when he realised he'd been found out. Lacking in any kind of morals and integrity just like the rest.

AllTheOddSocks · 21/05/2026 22:57

Just like when they reduced the VAT during Covid, the great British public won’t see a penny of these ‘savings.’ The businesses will absorb it all.

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 22:57

@GiaGia16single working mother here too… someone Labour believes has a never ending pot of cash for childcare, energy hikes, petrol costs etc etc! But it’s OK they’re given us money off biscuits (which are cheap anyway) and £5 off Legoland which I still wouldn’t be able to afford!

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ToffeeCrabApple · 21/05/2026 22:58

My suspicion is its more about providing a booster to the British tourism industry at at a time when people otherwise wouldn't be able to afford to visit attractions.

If they wanted to actually reduce people's costs they could have cut fuel duty or levies that hit energy bills. But the petrol industry doesn't need handouts right now and its not in line with "green agendas".

GiaGia16 · 21/05/2026 22:59

speckledpinkhen · 21/05/2026 22:57

@GiaGia16single working mother here too… someone Labour believes has a never ending pot of cash for childcare, energy hikes, petrol costs etc etc! But it’s OK they’re given us money off biscuits (which are cheap anyway) and £5 off Legoland which I still wouldn’t be able to afford!

I know, such a shame I live 250 hours from Legoland or honestly we’d be there!