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AIBU to feel uncomfortable about my MIL's behaviour around food?

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illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 13:06

Sorry, this ended up being quite a long post.

I don’t know what advice I am looking for and simply wanted to share this with other people to see if anybody else has ever experienced anything like this?

MIL, who is past retirement age, has a not so healthy relationship with weight and food. There are reasons I say this which I won’t go into, but let’s just say it is off topic for this thread.

I put on weight recently, but my BMI is in the green, right in the middle. This comes after years of being underweight, at times dangerously so, and struggling to put weight on, for reasons that are also off topic here.

MIL is now constantly asking me how the weight loss is going, measuring me up with her eyes, essentially fat-checking me… she does try to be discrete about this but I’ve seen it happen. She will ask whether I have managed to lose any weight since the last time she saw me. She then confirms “but the weight is going down right?”

She herself is not underweight for her age but is on the thin side.

In her fridge and cupboard, she keeps lots of out of date, expired food. Often mouldy. She will tell anybody who listens how she doesn’t gain weight and how proud she is of it, then going into details about how she manages to do that. For example, if she has eaten a lot one day she will try to not to eat very much for several days thereafter.

Unless she eats out, she’d does not eat “real” food, instead snacking on things like tomatoes or biscuits or nuts, or if she decides to have a meal, it will be something like canned soup. My understanding is she doesn’t really know how to cook, but that isn’t something you can judge her for because not everybody does.

She will often go out of her way to make sure her son (my husband) gets food when we are there, but will essentially do the opposite with me. This used to happen even when I was very thin. If we would go out for a meal she would order something “healthy” then try to eat my food and actually verbalise that she won’t take any from her son’s plate because he needs it. She would encourage her son to get the most expensive and substantial option on a menu, and although it has never explicitly been said I always feel that I am supposed to pick something cheap, sometimes based on suggestions she makes but mostly it’s based on experience from eating out with her and the sort of obvious conclusion you can draw from the behaviour when I do get something that isn’t the very cheapest option (she tries to eat my food). Of course it is possible this is all in my head but I am fairly sure it is not.

I feel like there’s an aspect to this which comes from a need to hoard food because food costs money. Or making sure you get your money’s worth (since she paid for the meal). So her son eating is getting your moneys worth, me eating is not. This behaviour extends to other situations but again it’s a bit off topic.

She does offer me what is in her cupboard and fridge but as I say it’s all expired and mouldy. In the same breath she will talk about how to ensure you don’t get hungry by snacking on small amounts of food like sweets and nuts.

On our most recent visit she made her son some food (tinned soup). She did not offer me the same. She then told me to join her while she ran some errands, in what felt like an attempt to distract me from eating. At this point it was late afternoon and I had not had anything to eat all day. She later offered me tomatoes and crackers.

I don’t think I will ever try to “set a boundary” because to some degree it is a lost cause and I don’t want to make her cross, I mostly try to eat before and after seeing her, but sometimes there isn’t time to do that.

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illtellyouwhat · 27/05/2026 15:05

One more thing: after this BH it’s become clear to me that he doesn’t fully realise the calculating nature and manipulation of what goes on, and instead views it as coming from a place of innocence.

For example, regarding what I mentioned above about jobs (which also applies to asking me about my weight) he thinks this is how she does small talk. A completely innocent act stemming from awkwardness around small talk/not knowing how to engage with it.

But she is a very competent lady, and does small talk all the time, and I get a strong sense when she asks us about plans or weight or jobs that it actually is because she has a view on it and wants to steer our actions towards her desired outcome. It’s often either the follow ups or the lack thereof which make the calculating nature so transparent (to me).

He also thinks that it is from a place of respect that she won’t respect our wishes to not speak about something/will assert she has the power dictate things or to give us grace periods when she wants to force us to talk about something. And that if she doesn’t do this to other people it’s because she doesn’t respect them as much. I think it’s the other way around.

So this raises a question about any therapy he might get: how can he get help with this if he doesn’t even realise it’s happening? Maybe not a question for this forum but a question I have nonetheless.

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BuckChuckets · 27/05/2026 15:23

I'll say it again - don't have children with this man. Because I guarantee him and his family will fuck them up.

I'll bet you £100 he won't ever accept there's an issue, and if he does go to therapy, it'll be under sufferance and only because he feels you need him to. I'd be delighted to be wrong and owe you £100, but I suspect I won't be.

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 27/05/2026 15:25

So this raises a question about any therapy he might get: how can he get help with this if he doesn’t even realise it’s happening? Maybe not a question for this forum but a question I have nonetheless.

A properly trained psychoanalytic psychotherapist will spend a long time listening to him as he talks and free associates about all aspects of his life. They develop a trusting relationship (it can be quite parental in the transference, especially with people whose own parents were objectively emotionally deficient) The therapist will work at your DHs pace to challenge his beliefs and his thought processes in a calm, curious, but assertive way. They walk a fine line between causing enough emotional discomfort/pain to prompt thought and actual change, but not enough to make the client stop therapy and never come back.

You might find it extremely helpful to see your own therapist at the same time because this sort of therapy affects a person as a whole. It's akin to the sort of growth/personality development that happens as you become an adult. If he works on himself and you don't, you both might have a new set of frustrations to deal with in your relationship.

HellyR · 27/05/2026 15:31

He also thinks that it is from a place of respect that she won’t respect our wishes to not speak about something/will assert she has the power dictate things

He's not being honest about this, is he?

Would he think that if you kept pointing out she only offers you mouldy food, that would be a sign of you respecting her?

He really doesn't sound willing to actually engage with all this openly and honestly. Lots of resistance.

WaryGoldSeal · 27/05/2026 18:09

@illtellyouwhat well done for having some conversations!

How do you feel about the outcome? Reassured in some ways? Or more conversations to be had?

How did you DH take it in general? And if you do start distancing yourself and setting boundaries, does it feel like he'll back you more now?

PopcornKitten · 27/05/2026 18:44

He’s in cloud cuckoo land about his DM. She’s been able to be like this for so long that any action deemed as rocking the boat or going against the status quo is going to be viewed as an attack on her. You’ve also put up with it so long that he can’t see that you’ll ever not allow her behaviours to continue. He needs to see that you aren’t going to allow the behaviours to continue towards you.
tehres some great advice here regarding the mouldy food etc. with the topics of conversation you can grey rock her.
iy will be harder if you have children so please try and work things out before that time.

alexdgr8 · 27/05/2026 22:53

It all sounds so draining.
Do you really want to spend the best years of your life tangling with them.
Any of them.
Being depleted in your inner self.
I don't think you realised what you were getting into.
How could you.
But don't waste your life trying to analyse them and puzzle it all out.

CraftyYankee · 28/05/2026 00:07

If you're not working right now could you take a solo holiday back to visit your family? Being surrounded by their love, and having a break from crazy town, might give you a new perspective on how much easier life can be without this madness.

I would pay for my daughter's airfare in this situation in a hot minute, I'll bet your parents would too if you ask. Then it can't be held against you by MIL for spending 💰 when you're not earning.

alexdgr8 · 28/05/2026 01:55

That's a very good idea.
Harken unto CraftyYankee OP.

godmum56 · 28/05/2026 08:21

BuckChuckets · 27/05/2026 15:23

I'll say it again - don't have children with this man. Because I guarantee him and his family will fuck them up.

I'll bet you £100 he won't ever accept there's an issue, and if he does go to therapy, it'll be under sufferance and only because he feels you need him to. I'd be delighted to be wrong and owe you £100, but I suspect I won't be.

This. Basdically and sorry but what your update says to me is that you have got nowhere.

BingoJingo · 28/05/2026 12:10

As the saying goes, 'Denial is not just a river in Egypt'. It is an incredibly powerful force that is now well embedded, stopping him from facing the uncomfortable reality of who is mother is. The truth is too destabilising for him and so he's rationalising her behaviours to preserve the structure of his family unit and his identity within it. This is why he will need therapy to understand and work through these issues. Maybe taking a break to see your family in the USA, as suggested upthread, might be beneficial. Explain to him that this is upsetting and you need some time to process your feelings away from him, and give him the opportunity to think through these issues as well.

girlwhowearsglasses · 28/05/2026 12:58

illtellyouwhat · 21/05/2026 12:09

Thank you for this specifically @NotTheMrMenAgain

And thank you to all of you for your messages and input. As a result of this thread I have done two things. I've spoken to DH and to my parents.

@CraftyYankee mentioned the point about "your family isn't here and so you don't have a support network." and this is very true and has been a challenge the entire time I've lived in the UK. Sometimes it has made things easier, but a lot of times it makes things harder.

@NotTheMrMenAgain you say you would be fuming if you knew this had happened to your DD and I can understand that. I think this is why I don't always tell my parents about some of the bad things that happen/have happened in my life because I love them very much and I know they love me, so I don't want to protect them from the knowledge of something that I know would hurt them.

Told my parents some of these stories last night, but I had to do it in a very humorous way to not hurt them, and I could see that it particularly hurt my father to hear that I had been going hungry all day. They bough laughed about the absurdity of some of the stories and especially of her eating my/other people's food, and were of course appalled to know she keeps mouldy and out of date food in her fridge. They suggested similar things to what everyone has suggested here, which is to just tell her I'm going to go and get myself some food, or I will not be eating that thank you very much. Underlining that I should not be going hungry.

I said earlier in this thread in response to @BuckChuckets that I would find some way of weaving this into a planning session about future kids. Well I sort of did this... but instead of discretely weaving into a structured conversation I just brought the subject up, and asked why do you think she didn't offer me any food? He said I really don't know. He also said since he had was focused on his work call he didn't realise exactly what was going on which I do think is fair in this particular instance. I also have some faith that I may be able to steer him towards being a bit more aware of this in the future, and to speak up if and when he notices that it is happening.

However, where this gets sticky is when I asked whether he would be happy leaving future kids with her, he got very, very upset and said of course he would "she is my MUM!!!" (he said this a number of times) and then talked about how his nieces and nephews have been left with her when they were children and how they are absolutely fine. I asked him well if we had a daughter would you be okay with your mum asking her about her weight and things like that and he said of course not. Very confusing!!

He then also did a fair bit of mental gymnastics to effectively claim his mother makes the same elaborate meals he does (she really doesn't). This is a bit like comparing boiled pasta with a side of cheese to a lasagna. I don't want to get dragged into whether or not children should be fed boiled pasta with bits of cheese, because it's besides the point. What he did was go into denial.

I won't bore you with the details of the entire conversation but when I pointed out that his mother told me she has recently been teaching her one of her grandchildren, who is pre-school age, methods for ensuring you can keep hunger at bay (spoiler: the answer is NOT eat a meal) he said well thats what you teach kids so they don't get fat. And then he said when he got fat when he was in his teens it was an upsetting experience for him.

So I think there's a very extreme disfunction in their family around food, where they don't eat healthy and nutritious meals as a baseline and instead rely on snacks to keep hunger at bay. There are all sorts of rationalisations around why they don't eat good food, like being individuals and therefore choosing what to eat for themselves or saving money or working a lot: "my protestant work ethic means I don't have time to eat".

When they were children and teenagers, it appears as if this then led to significant weight gain for some of the children and distorted their body image, compounded by their mother pointing out that they were getting fat, which then reinforced the idea that weight loss is something to strive for. This of course doesn't address the, for me, more concerning part around expired and mouldy food.

I'm not now sure how to progress this issue around how to be on the same page regarding future kids. He feels very attacked when I suggest we can't leave our future kids with his DM. He is expecting sleepovers. I think for now perhaps if I focus on ensuring I get the food I need that might create a foundation for establishing rules around any future children.

Thoughts and comments on this are welcome! Thanks again to you all.

Edited

Just re: your chat with him. I have learnt the hard way that when you want to discuss something sensitive like this it might be a good strategy highlight possible examples or scenarios, and get him to suggest how they might play out - knowing his DMs behaviour so well. Try to get him to draw the conclusions himself, come to some realisations himself; and probably over a period of time rather than one conversation.

Perhaps ask him to imagine life with a small child, talk about some nice things about it, what sort of food do you think a small child likes? What would you think would be a nice day out with a small child, where would you like to take your child,... etc. Then perhaps, and.... what do you think your DM thinks is a healthy snack for a child, etc....

If he draws his own conclusions after you've made some thought starters and then allow them to percolate, and return to the subject you might find a better outcome. Otherwise it will just be an automatic response

SettledAndHappy · 28/05/2026 17:45

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illtellyouwhat · 27/05/2026 15:05

One more thing: after this BH it’s become clear to me that he doesn’t fully realise the calculating nature and manipulation of what goes on, and instead views it as coming from a place of innocence.

For example, regarding what I mentioned above about jobs (which also applies to asking me about my weight) he thinks this is how she does small talk. A completely innocent act stemming from awkwardness around small talk/not knowing how to engage with it.

But she is a very competent lady, and does small talk all the time, and I get a strong sense when she asks us about plans or weight or jobs that it actually is because she has a view on it and wants to steer our actions towards her desired outcome. It’s often either the follow ups or the lack thereof which make the calculating nature so transparent (to me).

He also thinks that it is from a place of respect that she won’t respect our wishes to not speak about something/will assert she has the power dictate things or to give us grace periods when she wants to force us to talk about something. And that if she doesn’t do this to other people it’s because she doesn’t respect them as much. I think it’s the other way around.

So this raises a question about any therapy he might get: how can he get help with this if he doesn’t even realise it’s happening? Maybe not a question for this forum but a question I have nonetheless.

Edited

From this and your previous post it's become very clear that you have a massive DH problem as well as a MiL problem.

The DH one is more concerning, because if he's not in agreement with you re the issues re his DM, he will not agree to any children you might have never spending time alone with her.

He is having to do some pretty impressive mental gymnastics to hold all the different thoughts about his mum in his head at the same time.
I'm not sure he would even agree to counselling, as he doesn't think he or his DM have a problem.

I'm really not sure how this can be fixed @illtellyouwhat .

illtellyouwhat · 29/05/2026 00:32

I have some thoughts about some of the comments and questions you’ve put to me, but before I respond to those (tomorrow) I wanted to share something I’ve been thinking about in relation to how DH is blind to some of these behaviours.

Before our wedding, I needed to have my dress altered. MIL arranged for us (me) to take my wedding dress to a tailor “she knew” (looking back on it, I think she picked them because they were cheap…).

She had said to DH (I was not present for this conversation, but she did repeat it to me after we had been to the tailors) that she was concerned for me that my own mother was far away and that I don’t have friends that could go with me to an alterations appointment (this is not even true, lots of my female friends offered to help) and that she wanted to step up and fill that role (accompany me to the tailor, as if she were my mother/friend).

So we get there, I put on the dress, I glance over at her and I can see that she is clearly having to perform a role. I won’t go as far as say it was fake but clearly she was struggling to be genuine in her reaction.

The tailor measures up the dress from the ground, says okay this is how much we need to take off of the length, and then gets a pair of scissors. MIL then starts going OH HOW NERVE WRACKING SHES GOING TO CUT DIRECTLY INTO THE DRESS!! MUST BE SO NERVE WRACKING/TERRIFYING something to that effect. She kept saying CUT THE DRESS over and over, using different sentences.

I was having some kind of out of body experience while at the same time feeling very grounded about the fact that I completely trusted the tailor. I was not nervous at all. A tailor cuts into fabric all day long. Literally not a single part of me was stressed or nervous about this part, which I found kind of strange, but also very calming. And I thought there was such a contrast between what was happening inside me (calm) and what I kept hearing in the room which was MIL going on and on about the cutting like a broken record or a sports commentator, about how ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING it must be and OH SHES CUTTING IT!!

Looking back on this now I find it absolutely baffling how a grown woman could think that was the right thing to do? Like maybe she just didn’t know what to say but equally, she could have just staid nothing.

I think that from DHs perspective, this would translate to trying to be motherly and friendly and being caring and supportive.

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Ghht · 29/05/2026 00:40

Sooo…your DH just eats the soup he’s been given in front of you while you have nothing? And he does nothing to rectify that?

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 00:53

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 15:41

There are a couple of comments about this. First of all, sometimes he does seem a bit clueless. I think he reverts to a sort of child state around her, which a lot of people do when they are with their parents, me included.

We have been together for quite a long time. I've tried to talk to him about setting boundaries with his mother. I don't think he knows how to do that - with her or with anyone else. It also makes him feel stuck in the middle, which he expresses to me. So whether I have to appease her quirks or tell him to set boundaries, and then try to explain how boundaries are set or what a boundary even is, it's still me doing the leg (and brain) work.

It comes down to: how do you teach a grown man to set boundaries, with his mother no less, without creating friction in their relationship?

I’d say dh I’m done with your mum starving me, we can’t fix her batshit attitude to food but you can stand up for your wife. I expect you from now on to take responsibility for me having the same amount of equivalent food as you when with her. You take what she makes you, say wait mum there’s only one bowl, put half of it on a different plate and hand it to me. If your mum tries to drag me off to run errands instead you say she can go after she’s eaten. If you don’t do these things I am going to leave, walk out the door and uber home. I’m not seeing her anymore if you can’t stand up for me.

99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 01:03

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 16:32

What exactly is it we should try to work out? Whether she can give them food? Or what do you mean?

You need to protect your children from her judgy attitude so they don’t develop at best unhealthy relationships with food, at worst actual eating disorders, especially if they are girls. I think you should work very hard on getting your dh to back you up and feed you, because you should also tell him your kids are not going to be in the same room as her at mealtimes unless he’s mastered that skill. Your mil to your dd at lunch : here’s a handful of peanuts, that’s a lot of food. What your dh has to say: mum that’s not lunch. Dd is a healthy girl and needs energy to grow and learn, kids need good food regularly, we will take her out for lunch and be back in an hour.

illtellyouwhat · 29/05/2026 01:04

Ghht · 29/05/2026 00:40

Sooo…your DH just eats the soup he’s been given in front of you while you have nothing? And he does nothing to rectify that?

yea sort of… he was technically in another room so like… “out of sight out of mind”

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99bottlesofkombucha · 29/05/2026 01:06

illtellyouwhat · 19/05/2026 17:10

Apologies, what I meant was that there are objective reasons that I say - as a fact - that that her relationship with food/weight is unhealthy. Not just my opinion.

But given the response to this thread and the situation I described after adding in that disclaimer, it seems most people agree that even without these undisclosed reasons it's clear her relationship with these things is unhealthy...

Am quite stressed about the prospect of having kids and having to leave them with their grandparents given these and other issues around food. And I know it will be expected of me that I will agree to do that so that we can go out to dinner/holiday and so on. Not sure how to navigate that at all

This is not something you navigate. Parents must keep their kids safe. Next time he picks something off his food, you say you know we can’t let our kids be looked after by your mum, they don’t know they can’t eat moldy food and we can’t ever leave them here without us.

CraftyYankee · 29/05/2026 01:17

Why are you willing to put up with this ridiculous dance among you, DH and MIL?

She gets to be controlling and he gets to throw you under the bus for an easy life. What are YOU getting out of the equation?

You may love him, and he may say he loves you. But it's an awfully weak, passive kind of love that never prioritizes you or defends you against his mother, who seems to be his primary relationship. Is that really all you think you're worth, that you have to look forward to for the rest of your life? For your children to witness?

alexdgr8 · 29/05/2026 05:37

OP you seem to under react to things.
Or else are too innocent.
It seems obvious to me that MIL was carrying on like that at the tailors as a deliberate ploy to undermine you.
You are always making excuses for people.
As if she didn't know what to say.
Whereas the opposite is the case as she kept on repeating the horror of the scissors as you did not respond as expected.
That you cannot see this even now after all the mounting evidence of the coercive control and toxicity is concerning.
You are not protecting yourself by making allowances for other people and endlessly trying to explain their behaviour.
It's a form of denial and will do you no good.
Imo of course.
Please wake up.
Go see your lovely sane straightforward parents.
And re set your boundaries.
All the best.

ToSayYouHaveNoChoiceIsAFailureOfImagination · 29/05/2026 08:25

illtellyouwhat · 29/05/2026 00:32

I have some thoughts about some of the comments and questions you’ve put to me, but before I respond to those (tomorrow) I wanted to share something I’ve been thinking about in relation to how DH is blind to some of these behaviours.

Before our wedding, I needed to have my dress altered. MIL arranged for us (me) to take my wedding dress to a tailor “she knew” (looking back on it, I think she picked them because they were cheap…).

She had said to DH (I was not present for this conversation, but she did repeat it to me after we had been to the tailors) that she was concerned for me that my own mother was far away and that I don’t have friends that could go with me to an alterations appointment (this is not even true, lots of my female friends offered to help) and that she wanted to step up and fill that role (accompany me to the tailor, as if she were my mother/friend).

So we get there, I put on the dress, I glance over at her and I can see that she is clearly having to perform a role. I won’t go as far as say it was fake but clearly she was struggling to be genuine in her reaction.

The tailor measures up the dress from the ground, says okay this is how much we need to take off of the length, and then gets a pair of scissors. MIL then starts going OH HOW NERVE WRACKING SHES GOING TO CUT DIRECTLY INTO THE DRESS!! MUST BE SO NERVE WRACKING/TERRIFYING something to that effect. She kept saying CUT THE DRESS over and over, using different sentences.

I was having some kind of out of body experience while at the same time feeling very grounded about the fact that I completely trusted the tailor. I was not nervous at all. A tailor cuts into fabric all day long. Literally not a single part of me was stressed or nervous about this part, which I found kind of strange, but also very calming. And I thought there was such a contrast between what was happening inside me (calm) and what I kept hearing in the room which was MIL going on and on about the cutting like a broken record or a sports commentator, about how ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING it must be and OH SHES CUTTING IT!!

Looking back on this now I find it absolutely baffling how a grown woman could think that was the right thing to do? Like maybe she just didn’t know what to say but equally, she could have just staid nothing.

I think that from DHs perspective, this would translate to trying to be motherly and friendly and being caring and supportive.

Edited

On one hand I think it's admirable of you to be spending so much effort in trying to understand your DHs thought processes. On the other hand, it's very frustrating to read how much work you're doing on this, because you shouldn't have to. Your life shouldn't be this complicated and you deserve better. It's going to take years, maybe a decade for your DH to address his issues sufficiently for you and him to lead a "normal" life

I can have a good guess why your MIL reacted as she did at your dress fitting. It was your dress fitting. You were the bride. You were the special one on that day, not her. But your MIL needs to be in control. She needs to be the centre of attention. So she found away to make it all about herself and droned on about cutting your dress a very bizzare way. She created a performance about her pretend anxiety around cutting your dress, probably hoping that she could spoil the occasion for you by creating a real anxiety that didn't previously exist for you. At the very least it took attention away from how beautiful you looked in your dress; anticipation of your DHs reaction; anticipation of your wedding day etc and put the attention on her at how distressed she was.

From your DH perspective... You wonder if he would see all of this as her being loving, caring, maternal... Short answer yes. If you complained about this behaviour to him, he would defend his mother and say that you had misunderstood her intentions. You would be in the wrong. But that's because his mother is the most powerful person in his life. Everything she says is true. Nothing is questioned. She is right in all things. Your DH is at the stage that young children are at when they are at primary school - their parents are the all knowing gods in their worlds. It doesn't seem like he's ever made it to those teenage years where we start seeing our parents as fallible humans, where we realise we can have different opinions, and where we realise that they are occasionally wrong. The teenage years come with massive rebellion. They're painful years. There's lots of anger. Your DH wasn't allowed that, and he didn't push for it. He didn't take it. Perhaps it wasn't emotionally safe for him to do that. That's what therapy will help him with. In normal development, once you get past the painful rebellious teen years, as an adult, we can disagree with our parents in a calmer, respectful and robust way because we see ourselves as fully separate from them. He is absolutely light years away from that. He is developmentally and emotionally stunted by his mother's parenting.

I can see that you want to understand and I can see that you want to help him because you love him. Understanding is fine. But you can't actually help him with this. It's not your job. You're not trained. And you are far too close to the situation for him to be able hear what you say. He needs to develop a trusting, maternal (in the transference) relationship with a therapist who he sees as external to all of this.

FloofyKat · 29/05/2026 21:47

Goodness. What a thread!

OP, you have been given lots of sound, sensible advice from other posters so I will try not to repeat this..

I will say that it’s clear to me that you ALL have issues that ideally need dealing with.

You have no control over whether your MiL does anything about her own behaviour and you can’t force your H, either, but you can definitely take steps to address your own.

You seem very stuck to the need to please others , the need not to be ‘rude’ (as you put it), the need to try and keep your H’s relationship with his mum , the need to be liked by aunt so-and-so, and so on.You have assigned yourself a very low priority in the pecking order ie bottom of the heap.

I think if you had improved self esteem and a clearer sense that it’s ok to say no, to call out unacceptable behaviour, to challenge comments about weight and so on you could at least begin to adjust the unhealthy dynamic that seems to exist between the three of you.

At the very least, therapy might give you the permission and strength to step away from the unhealthy situations you frequently seem to find yourself in.

For example, you could simply say to your H … I’m not going to MiL’s today with you. She doesn’t listen to me, care about me feelings or show me respect and you won’t stick up for me - so I’m not going to put myself in the spotlight. I’m disappointed that you refuse to see what’s going on here and I’m disappointed that you can’t ever put me and my feelings first.

Your H really needs to receive therapy himself if he’s going to break the cycle. He’s enmeshed fight now and cannot see the chains that are binding him. Maybe you changing your behaviour and the way you react will help shine a light on things he’s learned to believe are normal, but really, really aren’t.

i wish you all the luck in the world as you try and navigate all this!

illtellyouwhat · 02/06/2026 21:15

Can somebody tell me how long it takes to get good at grey rocking?

Tried it out last week. I seemed like she was on to me throughout the entire interaction. She was doing something similar to the tailoring incident - attempting to generate feelings of stress and anxiety, but with a smile.

When I didn’t respond in the expected way (attempted grey rocking) she looked like she had some sort of light bulb moment, suddenly dropped what she was doing, did a 180 twirl and made me follow her elsewhere in the house (“come with me” and when I didn’t follow fast enough: “are you coming then?!”).

She then said some stuff that basically festered for days. It wasn’t anything mean or horrible (and not about food this time but she made other comments about food later on). It did however feel like there was a desired outcome: certainly a desired emotional outcome, possibly also in terms actions to be taken by me. Not going to go into details for outing reasons.

Bad news/good news is while I have not managed to sort out going home, my fam will come visit us here. Thank you all for pushing me to do this.

But yeah, if I could get some help with grey rocking that would be awesome!

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