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Meeting with HR

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displaynamemr · Today 12:53

FFS. So I applied for an internal job and didnt get it. The job has been awarded to hiring managers daughter, I don't care because it was more responsibility and not much more money. However the hiring manager called me before it went out and basically told me to apply/she literally said ive got the job.

However, the issue is I was venting to a colleague at work and we were overheard and now HR want to talk to me about it. I was annoyed because I was on annual leave and spent a morning at an interview etc. I was a little upset and crying but that's just because I'm due on my period and to be honest I like a good cry sometimes.

It was in a meeting room at work and someone has heard me. The interview is held in a room that everyone can see - I walked past the office and was wearing full office attire.

There was nothing said in the chat with my colleague that was hurtful about the company, more just about my experience.

Am I in trouble? Why does he even care? I've got a diary invite.

Generally I don't care about work issues to the point I will start grieviences and as a cancer survivor (they wouldn't know about it) than I really don't give two bothers about work, my health and my family are mu priority.

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MeetMeOnTheCorner · Today 13:00

So what’s the issue then? You don’t care. You can drop the silly person in it that said you would get the job. You can accuse them of nepotism. You can put your notice in. Maybe HR want to explain the hiring decision? Who knows. It sounds dramatic for someone who doesn’t care so find out what it’s about. Any manager who says someone has got the job is an idiot. They need calling out.

Arlanymor · Today 13:01

You say you don't care - but then why were you venting in the workplace? And venting loudly enough that someone reported you and now you have a meeting with HR. I'm sorry you've not got the job - I have not always got jobs I applied for, but I wouldn't moan about it in the same building.

SnappyQuoter · Today 13:03

HR will be concerned about the company being open to legal action, they don’t care about you. You’re not in any trouble but you were told you had the job and then the hiring manager gave it to the daughter. That’s something HR should be told about. Go drop that manager in it!

DDivaStar · Today 13:05

Id say it was more the company wanting to cover themselves if you'd implied it wasnt a fair process.

Wordsmithery · Today 13:07

Embrace the opportunity to say what happened. HR will be either horrified or - sadly - not surprised.

Friendlygingercat · Today 13:25

Watch out, there's a snitch about!

SnappyQuoter · Today 13:26

Friendlygingercat · Today 13:25

Watch out, there's a snitch about!

What adult uses that word when talking about someone having a meeting with HR?

displaynamemr · Today 13:27

Friendlygingercat · Today 13:25

Watch out, there's a snitch about!

I know right

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displaynamemr · Today 13:27

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Today 13:00

So what’s the issue then? You don’t care. You can drop the silly person in it that said you would get the job. You can accuse them of nepotism. You can put your notice in. Maybe HR want to explain the hiring decision? Who knows. It sounds dramatic for someone who doesn’t care so find out what it’s about. Any manager who says someone has got the job is an idiot. They need calling out.

Why would I do any of that?

Everyone knows I applied for a job and didn't get it.... If I was that bothered I would have contacted HR myself

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Tuxedomaddness · Today 13:28

Crying in a meeting room at work about work is a cause for concern. They may just want to check on your welfare.
Dont use meeting rooms to have a good cry if ypu don't want people to show concern.

Tuxedomaddness · Today 13:29

displaynamemr · Today 13:27

Why would I do any of that?

Everyone knows I applied for a job and didn't get it.... If I was that bothered I would have contacted HR myself

Then don't cry at work if you are really not arsed. Actions have consequences and you sound like a petulant teenager.

Lovingbooks · Today 13:31

displaynamemr · Today 13:27

Why would I do any of that?

Everyone knows I applied for a job and didn't get it.... If I was that bothered I would have contacted HR myself

But HR don’t know this they might be reacting to a report that could turn into a grievance against them. This might be HRs attempt at fact checking and to resolve things even if you think your comments have been taken out of context (venting to a colleague).

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Today 13:33

I assume seeing hr is not a contractural issue. Ask them why they want to see you! That’s if you care of course. Why cry if you don’t care? Very odd.

INX · Today 13:37

Very odd and very unprofessional to start blubbing at work over a job you're apparently not fussed about.

I wonder if HR has been told you were slagging off the hiring manager's daughter?

Also very unprofessional for that person to 'literally' tell you, you got the job before the interview.

BerryTwister · Today 13:43

If you're crying and ranting at work, after not getting a promotion, HR should want to speak to you to check you're OK. It sounds like they're just doing their job.

HeyMoonPie · Today 13:45

I read the situation differently. The 'Hiring Manager' encouraged the Op to apply and interview for the job in a very dubious way to cover their tracks and bulk out the applicants. The Op has been used !
I bet they were always going to hire their daughter - the nepotism should be called out. Thank goodness some companies wont hire close relatives.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · Today 13:51

Any proof you were overheard?

Mumofoneandone · Today 13:52

Sounds a dodgy setup.
Ask them for an agenda for the meeting.
Go in and listen. You don't have to respond.
Maybe take a colleague in for support/make notes.
Summarise any points made in an email to them afterwards.
If the meeting states getting aggressive/warning etc, potentially terminate it. Contact ACAS for support and advice if needed (or Union).
Remember, you have done nothing wrong. The interview process sounds dodgy - HR might be getting at you to prevent you putting a complaint in/asking further questions about the interview process.

INX · Today 13:52

HeyMoonPie · Today 13:45

I read the situation differently. The 'Hiring Manager' encouraged the Op to apply and interview for the job in a very dubious way to cover their tracks and bulk out the applicants. The Op has been used !
I bet they were always going to hire their daughter - the nepotism should be called out. Thank goodness some companies wont hire close relatives.

But if this was the case, why would they tell the OP she's literally got the job?

Surely they'd say something like 'You're in with a great chance', or similar?

StephensLass1977 · Today 14:03

The job is never yours until it's yours! The number of times I've been promised a job - to the point I walked out of one some years ago because I was absolutely "guaranteed" a job at another company - and then they ghosted me. I couldn't pay my bills for a year. It was one of the worst things I've ever gone through.

Stop taking what people say seriously. People at work can be such idiots and can talk such utter ubbish. You were never guaranteed that job.

Also, if you don't care, and your family etc are more important, then that's great. I genuinely envy you, as I could never give up work, we need the money.

displaynamemr · Today 14:03

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displaynamemr · Today 14:05

Tuxedomaddness · Today 13:29

Then don't cry at work if you are really not arsed. Actions have consequences and you sound like a petulant teenager.

I can cry whenever I want. I enjoy crying. It's a great release.

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Tuxedomaddness · Today 14:05

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Nope it's you that sounds unhinged OP.

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displaynamemr · Today 14:05

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Today 13:33

I assume seeing hr is not a contractural issue. Ask them why they want to see you! That’s if you care of course. Why cry if you don’t care? Very odd.

I can cry whenever I want.

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