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You sweet summer child

167 replies

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:00

AIBU to feel absolutely fucking murderous when people say this?

OP posts:
Vetiver · 18/05/2026 22:43

Definitely heard this way before game of thrones, which I’ve never seen

NotMajorTom · 18/05/2026 22:43

A cursory google shows that it was popularised by GoT but the writer took an existing phrase and meaning, albeit one that wasn’t commonly used.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 18/05/2026 22:44

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:39

Please, any sources at all? You must be able to rustle up thousands of examples of it being used?

Here's one from the 1840s https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/The_West_Wind,_James_Staunton_Babcock

The West Wind, James Staunton Babcock

https://wiki.roshangeorge.dev/w/The_West_Wind,_James_Staunton_Babcock

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:44

RichardMarxisinnocent · 18/05/2026 22:44

OP will ignore that because it was not documented online in the 1840s.

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 18/05/2026 23:07

If people are saying this to you enough to annoy you, id start to look inward OP.

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 23:08

SnipSnipMrBurgess · 18/05/2026 23:07

If people are saying this to you enough to annoy you, id start to look inward OP.

Fucking He’ll, they’re not saying it to me. They’re saying it on here, repeatedly. Presumably you are one of them. You don’t sound clever.

OP posts:
Dontlletmedownbruce · 18/05/2026 23:12

What is it meant to mean? I get the implication that it relates to innocence but in what circumstances would you say it to someone. Is it meant to be a way of disagreeing or pointing out they are wrong or uneducated about a point? Also I don't know what it means in the literal sense. Is a summer child a reference to something superstitious or religious?

CaptainBlueTit · 18/05/2026 23:12

Oh OP, you really do believe that things only exist if you know about them, don't you? Do you also believe that people can't see you if you can't see them?

You sweet summer child.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 18/05/2026 23:24

I have never seen it on MN before this thread. And I've never watched GoT. But I do know the phrase and have done for years.

I'm cringing for you a bit, OP. Just accept that you got it wrong. You're still allowed to be annoyed by the expression.

Springtimeinsunshine · 18/05/2026 23:25

Never watched GoT but I do know the saying and what it means. My Gran used to say it and she was born around 1900s.

Chapbook · 18/05/2026 23:29

Springtimeinsunshine · 18/05/2026 23:25

Never watched GoT but I do know the saying and what it means. My Gran used to say it and she was born around 1900s.

I’m interested to hear older British usages — I think anytime I’ve encountered in pre-internet contexts, it’s been US.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/05/2026 23:34

I suspect that the basic expression has been around for a very, very long time. But that doesn’t really matter. As used on here it’s the leper's bell of a patronising half-wit.

dannyufcfan · 18/05/2026 23:52

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:19

This is calling the breeze a child of the summer. That’s just the same words, not the meaning. The patronising ‘you don’t know what’s coming’ usage is from Game of Thrones.

Yep, it comes from the GOT books. Lots of people swear down they heard it as a kid but it's a false memory.

Edit: As proven by this very thread!

silverrobot · 19/05/2026 00:00

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:25

They can tell me the moon is made of cheese. Doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. If it was commonly used before then, there should be plenty of examples? And yet we’re on Victorian poetry with a different meaning.

It was popularised by Game of Thrones. So people who came down in the last shower, like you, imagine it never existed before then.

dannyufcfan · 19/05/2026 00:15

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:23

You are a sweet summer child. Own it and move on.

Sorry, she's right on this one.

dannyufcfan · 19/05/2026 00:21

silverrobot · 19/05/2026 00:00

It was popularised by Game of Thrones. So people who came down in the last shower, like you, imagine it never existed before then.

It being used in a condescending way, to address someone who’s never seen the winter was first used in 1996 in the GOT books.

The words had appeared together in a poem but not in that context.

Pallisers · 19/05/2026 00:25

That was my contribution to the thread about phrases/words that drive you demented. I've only ever heard it on MN but it drives me nuts.

Crispsandcola · 19/05/2026 00:31

I deliberately use this phrase to be annoying and patronising. It works really well. I'm sure everyone who uses it is either a pompous condensing shtbag or, like me, trying to get a rise out of someone who is being a wnker.
I'm inserting stars into certain words because I'm not sure how sweary we're allowed to be on this app.

Holidaymodeon · 19/05/2026 00:42

I’ve only ever seen it used here. I never watched GOT though. I just find some of the stock mn phrases bland and pick me. Super try hard even though it’s an anonymous forum

JaneJeffer · 19/05/2026 00:47

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 18/05/2026 22:41

Someone posted at 10:15pm saying they’re 57 and heard it used during their childhood.

Case closed

I am also 57 and never heard it in my childhood. Case reopened.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 19/05/2026 00:55

JaneJeffer · 19/05/2026 00:47

I am also 57 and never heard it in my childhood. Case reopened.

Or that it was in use but you just never heard it.

JaneJeffer · 19/05/2026 00:57

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 19/05/2026 00:55

Or that it was in use but you just never heard it.

That is the question

ilovesooty · 19/05/2026 00:58

mumofoneAloneandwell · 18/05/2026 22:01

Someone called me that on here 😭😭😭 I cant even remember what I retorted

Its so rude 😄

Absolutely is. You might as well call someone thick and you get deleted for that.

SourWinterPensioner · 19/05/2026 01:04

I'd love somebody to call me that again - it's been many, many years now.

Leorag · 19/05/2026 01:09

Op. Please don't worry. Winter Is Coming...