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You sweet summer child

160 replies

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:00

AIBU to feel absolutely fucking murderous when people say this?

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ChickenBananaBanana · 18/05/2026 22:23

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:19

This is calling the breeze a child of the summer. That’s just the same words, not the meaning. The patronising ‘you don’t know what’s coming’ usage is from Game of Thrones.

Op, you're wrong. Several people are telling you. Give up or keep doubling down 😂😂

Luddite26 · 18/05/2026 22:24

I have never heard the phrase.ibthought the thread was going to be about kids born in Summer being too young for reception!

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:25

ChickenBananaBanana · 18/05/2026 22:23

Op, you're wrong. Several people are telling you. Give up or keep doubling down 😂😂

They can tell me the moon is made of cheese. Doesn’t make a blind bit of difference. If it was commonly used before then, there should be plenty of examples? And yet we’re on Victorian poetry with a different meaning.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/05/2026 22:26

Isn’t it “oh my sweet summer child”?

The thing is, like any expression of this nature, one that’s condescending in nature, using it doesn’t necessarily mean the person saying it is wiser! They’ve just cottoned on to an expression to use to put others down.

That said, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it in real life. Perhaps I’ve seen it on here.

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:26

Ha, so you have not heard of it so it must be bollocks. Ok.

NotMajorTom · 18/05/2026 22:27

You know that phenomenon where people are said to not change their opinion even when presented with facts that show they are wrong

yeah

that

Zov · 18/05/2026 22:28

You do you hun. Get a life. Move on. Get your ducks in a row. Bless. Are you OK?

#joking. Grin

YANBU, 'oh you sweet summer child' is a bit patronising.... but I don't find it too offensive. It's just saying 'you're quite naive aren't ya?!'

Duckyfondant · 18/05/2026 22:28

Do people say it to you quite a lot, OP?

NotTheOrdinary · 18/05/2026 22:29

Duckyfondant · 18/05/2026 22:28

Do people say it to you quite a lot, OP?

🤣

MaCheCazzo · 18/05/2026 22:34

Christ on a bike. Time for bed said Zebedee. That's you OP - not me or anyone else here trying desperately to educate you.

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:35

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 18/05/2026 22:26

Isn’t it “oh my sweet summer child”?

The thing is, like any expression of this nature, one that’s condescending in nature, using it doesn’t necessarily mean the person saying it is wiser! They’ve just cottoned on to an expression to use to put others down.

That said, I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone say it in real life. Perhaps I’ve seen it on here.

That’s exactly what irritates me so much. They’ve just cottoned on to it. Just like ‘he’s just not that into you’. Which they’ve also got from a TV show.

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DowryofBlood · 18/05/2026 22:36

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:13

No, it hasn’t.

It really has.

YooBlue · 18/05/2026 22:36

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:22

You may be able to find the combination of “sweet” “summer” and “child” in previous literary works but these do not appear to have the same meaning as Martin’s use of the phrase. Which is when everyone started quoting it thinking they sounded like Littlefinger which they do not.

It might be when 'everyone' started using it, but the older poetic uses did mean 'innocent' 'naive' etc. Which morphed into being a put down in GoT.

I have heard it all my long life meaning innocent in the sense of not knowing about bad things, or thinking the best.

It's an evolution.

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 18/05/2026 22:36

I’ve only seen it used on here. Patronising and irritating.

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:37

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:26

Ha, so you have not heard of it so it must be bollocks. Ok.

If you can find some evidence of it being in common usage prior to Game of Thrones please do share it. It should be easy either way all the internet forums that predates the show, including this one. Yet there’s not a trace of it before 2010.

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thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:38

NotMajorTom · 18/05/2026 22:27

You know that phenomenon where people are said to not change their opinion even when presented with facts that show they are wrong

yeah

that

I haven’t bee presented with a single fact. Happy to be shown sources, of which there must be plenty, showing how wrong I am and that it was being said in 2008.

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Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:38

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:37

If you can find some evidence of it being in common usage prior to Game of Thrones please do share it. It should be easy either way all the internet forums that predates the show, including this one. Yet there’s not a trace of it before 2010.

There wont be online evidence from 1840s etc for a very obvious reason.

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:39

MaCheCazzo · 18/05/2026 22:34

Christ on a bike. Time for bed said Zebedee. That's you OP - not me or anyone else here trying desperately to educate you.

Please, any sources at all? You must be able to rustle up thousands of examples of it being used?

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thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:40

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:38

There wont be online evidence from 1840s etc for a very obvious reason.

There have been 180 years between 1840 and now. Did it stop being used in 1840, all evidence gone, and spring up again in the last 10 years because that’s when Game of Thrones aired?

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Oncemorewithsome · 18/05/2026 22:41

I think it often … try not to say it 😂

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 18/05/2026 22:41

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:37

If you can find some evidence of it being in common usage prior to Game of Thrones please do share it. It should be easy either way all the internet forums that predates the show, including this one. Yet there’s not a trace of it before 2010.

Someone posted at 10:15pm saying they’re 57 and heard it used during their childhood.

Case closed

Crimpit · 18/05/2026 22:41

thinkprint · 18/05/2026 22:40

There have been 180 years between 1840 and now. Did it stop being used in 1840, all evidence gone, and spring up again in the last 10 years because that’s when Game of Thrones aired?

Fucking hell... you are just reinforcing the very phrase you are annoyed about.

Judystilldreamsofhorses · 18/05/2026 22:42

My gran used to call my sibling (born in May) her “sweet summer child” when she was naive/daft about something. I understand it to - originally - mean a person who has never experienced the harsh realities of winter, due to only knowing summer, but has been adapted over time to be basically, ha, just you wait! eg my darling angel puppy I have had for one day is SO well behaved…

Oncemorewithsome · 18/05/2026 22:42

YooBlue · 18/05/2026 22:36

It might be when 'everyone' started using it, but the older poetic uses did mean 'innocent' 'naive' etc. Which morphed into being a put down in GoT.

I have heard it all my long life meaning innocent in the sense of not knowing about bad things, or thinking the best.

It's an evolution.

This. It’s sort of like bless you kiddo… I hope life never proves that wrong for you.

GentleSheep · 18/05/2026 22:43

I actually like the expression - I first heard it from a good friend, makes me smile remembering.

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