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to stop extra flexibility after my manager imposed office hours?

516 replies

LouuLou · 15/05/2026 13:02

I work in a small office team of five people. I’m the only full-time member of staff, everyone else is part time. We had a new manager start last year and honestly, up until now, things have been really good. We get on well, I like his management style and he has always said he cared more about people getting the work done than clock-watching.

I work very hard. I consistently hit targets, usually go beyond what is expected, and I won an achievement award last month. I also work very flexibly. I regularly start work at 7am, answer emails early, and will often still be available after 6pm. I usually work through lunch too. That flexibility has suited both the organisation and me because it means things get done quickly and I can also fit other parts of life around work. It is one of the things I am regularly complimented on - how quick I get tasks done.

Out of nowhere, he has now announced that I have to be physically in the office 9–5 three days a week. No actual problem has been identified, no concerns raised about my performance, no suggestion that work isn’t getting done. The explanation was basically that he “wants to try something different”.

Fine. He is the manager and he is entitled to set office hours if he wants to. I’m not arguing with that part.

But my feeling is that if he now wants strict contracted hours and presenteeism, then that is exactly what he will get. I no longer see the point in starting at 7am, replying to messages before work, being available into the evening or working through lunch. I’m planning to work my contracted hours, take a proper hour lunch break and log off at the end of the day.

I know this will reduce the amount I actually get done overall. But another part of me thinks flexibility works both ways. If management removes trust and autonomy, they can’t really expect staff to continue giving unpaid goodwill on top.

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JMSA · 18/05/2026 09:36

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 15/05/2026 13:09

I’d be a step more manipulative shrew as I’m peri and over twats…. Go into the office 3 days do only 9-5 excluding break but then do more work hours on your two home days - if you want too- so the data points show more work at home than in the office.

On what planet is the manager being a twat? 🤦‍♀️
He’s being entirely reasonable.

Anonanonanonagain · 18/05/2026 10:48

Maybe it is not your work ethic being called into question but your managers and he has been told that he needs you to be brought in so he doesnt think he is the one being monitored. Maybe they have realised how much extra you have been doing which means he is not doing his part and this is what they are trying to establish?

Lackinginspecialskills · 18/05/2026 17:47

Obviously YANBU to not work more than your contracted hours. You are very proud of this award you got - but no wonder if you are doing the equivalent of an extra day's work every week for no more pay. Anyone would get an award and I think you need to shift your mindset a little to consider why you would do so much without needing to - it feels a bit unhealthy, a bit teacher's pet/try hard? Maybe the manager has clocked that you are over-performing and isn't a fan of you picking up his work before he gets into the office. It might make him feel threatened if he's a bit new. Has it been noted by his managers that you are doing stuff he should be? I wouldn't like to feel that someone was doing my work for me before I had the chance to get to it and while he might publicly act like he's grateful, maybe privately he feels a bit put out by it? Maybe he doesn't like the way you're doing it but can't really say?

I imagine he finds you hard to manage as well, as you do seem to come and go as you please.. You clearly don't really need managing but that won't stop him feeling inadequate if he feels he isn't in control. He has obviously inherited this system and doesn't like it. Perhaps your way of working is giving other colleagues who might take the piss similar ideas and he's losing overall control.

I do think what others have said is true too - it can get a bit much if everyone is part time and no one is in the office and everyone is doing their own thing. As you are the one full-time person, you are the obvious one to pull in to work in the office as lynch pin to hold things together, especially if he does think you are very good at your job - he is only asking for 3 out of 5 days which is not that unreasonable. I think you need to lose the "this'll serve him right" attitude though, it won't help. No one asked you to work those hours in the first place. Hopefully it all settles down.

Allergictoironing · 18/05/2026 18:47

We have 2 full timers and 2 part timers in my team (the other full timer is the manager), official headcount should be 5 including the manager. We need to have at least one person in the office every day and preferably 2, so the full time manager does 2 days in office & the part times (3 days) do 1 day each in the office. This leaves me, who prefers to come in every day, only on my own usually Fridays & then other days if someone is on leave.

Just because someone is a part timer is no reason for them not to come in at least 1 day a week, so if the OP is asked to be in 3/5 days then 1/3 or 1/2.5 isn't unreasonable to ask of the part timers.

Has it been noted by his managers that you are doing stuff he should be?

I've noticed nothing in the OP's posts that suggests she's doing her manager's work, just being conscientious about her own. Pretty hard to do someone else's work if the emails go to them & not you, as in most places of work.

LouuLou · 18/05/2026 19:32

Lackinginspecialskills · 18/05/2026 17:47

Obviously YANBU to not work more than your contracted hours. You are very proud of this award you got - but no wonder if you are doing the equivalent of an extra day's work every week for no more pay. Anyone would get an award and I think you need to shift your mindset a little to consider why you would do so much without needing to - it feels a bit unhealthy, a bit teacher's pet/try hard? Maybe the manager has clocked that you are over-performing and isn't a fan of you picking up his work before he gets into the office. It might make him feel threatened if he's a bit new. Has it been noted by his managers that you are doing stuff he should be? I wouldn't like to feel that someone was doing my work for me before I had the chance to get to it and while he might publicly act like he's grateful, maybe privately he feels a bit put out by it? Maybe he doesn't like the way you're doing it but can't really say?

I imagine he finds you hard to manage as well, as you do seem to come and go as you please.. You clearly don't really need managing but that won't stop him feeling inadequate if he feels he isn't in control. He has obviously inherited this system and doesn't like it. Perhaps your way of working is giving other colleagues who might take the piss similar ideas and he's losing overall control.

I do think what others have said is true too - it can get a bit much if everyone is part time and no one is in the office and everyone is doing their own thing. As you are the one full-time person, you are the obvious one to pull in to work in the office as lynch pin to hold things together, especially if he does think you are very good at your job - he is only asking for 3 out of 5 days which is not that unreasonable. I think you need to lose the "this'll serve him right" attitude though, it won't help. No one asked you to work those hours in the first place. Hopefully it all settles down.

I have learned my lesson. I won't be doing extra work anymore. That is not the reason I got the award. The manager nominated me but he didn't get to make the decision.

Maybe the manager has clocked that you are over-performing and isn't a fan of you picking up his work before he gets into the office.

That is fine but why keep thanking and praising me for doing it?

Has it been noted by his managers that you are doing stuff he should be?

I wouldn't know. I was only picking up a few up of his tasks not all of them.

Maybe he doesn't like the way you're doing it but can't really say?

That doesn't make him a very good manager then. Just had an appraisal last month and he said was happy with my work and to continue as I am.

I imagine he finds you hard to manage as well, as you do seem to come and go as you please.

I don't come and go as I please. Yes I have popped out on occasion to do the odd task when WFH. He told me to come in once a week after March so I did. He decides not me.

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Abricot1983 · 18/05/2026 19:57

There maybe a bigger picture to this as in they are having to state this to give a company wide approach as others have been slacking

TheRestIsEntertainent · 18/05/2026 21:28

How did it go today OP? (How many days do you still get WFH?).

Dunderheided · Yesterday 07:58

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TheRestIsEntertainent · Yesterday 08:30

That could be said about every thread on here!

LouuLou · Yesterday 11:35

TheRestIsEntertainent · 18/05/2026 21:28

How did it go today OP? (How many days do you still get WFH?).

2 days WFH.

It went ok. I was actually more relaxed by not starting so stupidly early. My manager definitely noticed as I responded to nothing before 9am so a couple of things got missed. He has had to pick up on those. So already the work is increasing for him.

He said I had to do set days in the office so I have had to come in today. No one is here so I am by myself all day. I have nearly done all my days work already so will sit and take it easy with some cups of tea!

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 11:49

I was wondering about your days in the office as opposed to when you work from home, @LouuLou. At first I agreed with the people who said you should also work strict 9 to 5 when you’re at home, but looking at what you’ve written this morning, I think it might be worth your carrying on the way you always have done, if it suits you to do so, when working from home, so that the manager will be able to immediately quantify the difference in your performance. I haven’t spotted whether you said the manager wants you to also work strict 9 to 5 when you are working from home?
Enjoy the rest of your day and your cuppas.

BeGreySnail · Yesterday 13:01

Did he change the office days from Mon, Wed and Fri?

EmmaB1309 · Yesterday 13:52

Yanbu, but I would think that sticking more strictly to 9-5 would be a natural consequence of having to be in the office rather than something you even have to consciously decide to do to if you see what I mean? Obviously if you are commuting to be in the office you won’t be as available 7-9 at the drop of a hat, or after working hours. As for the other days, you should sticking to your hours anyway. Presumably they don’t pay you for working before and after hours?
But yes I do agree. They can’t impose a rule like this AND expect to continue reaping the benefits of your flexibility.

ADAB33 · Yesterday 14:14

Great update! Good to hear you are more relaxed and can enjoy a few cuppas 😁

TheRestIsEntertainent · Yesterday 14:14

What’s your plan for your WFH days? I can see benefits both ways and would struggle to decide.

damemaggiescurledupperlip · Yesterday 14:23

Well, that pesky commute eats into
tine you could have spent responding, and of course leaves you so tired you do t look at your e-mails once you’re finally home

LouuLou · Yesterday 14:25

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 11:49

I was wondering about your days in the office as opposed to when you work from home, @LouuLou. At first I agreed with the people who said you should also work strict 9 to 5 when you’re at home, but looking at what you’ve written this morning, I think it might be worth your carrying on the way you always have done, if it suits you to do so, when working from home, so that the manager will be able to immediately quantify the difference in your performance. I haven’t spotted whether you said the manager wants you to also work strict 9 to 5 when you are working from home?
Enjoy the rest of your day and your cuppas.

The manager has not said he wants me to work 9-5 when at home but I am as it makes more sense to work the same hours every day regardless of where I am with the new regime of 3 days in the office 9-5.

Things are slowing down which is no bad thing (not for me anyway).

Thank you ❤

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LouuLou · Yesterday 14:26

BeGreySnail · Yesterday 13:01

Did he change the office days from Mon, Wed and Fri?

He said Mon, Wed and Fri but then asked me to come in today for some reason.

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LouuLou · Yesterday 14:29

TheRestIsEntertainent · Yesterday 14:14

What’s your plan for your WFH days? I can see benefits both ways and would struggle to decide.

I will just do 9-5 I think or do it early and set scheduled emails to be delivered between 9-5.

A lot of the early international emails are no longer getting quick responses which he does not like but hey ho.

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LouuLou · Yesterday 14:31

damemaggiescurledupperlip · Yesterday 14:23

Well, that pesky commute eats into
tine you could have spent responding, and of course leaves you so tired you do t look at your e-mails once you’re finally home

Exactly. Commute is taking longer as I hit the traffic both ways but at least I can switch off when I get home!

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Sparkysmum · Yesterday 14:34

Has your manager indicated who should be taking the early international calls prior to 9. a.m.

LouuLou · Yesterday 14:40

Sparkysmum · Yesterday 14:34

Has your manager indicated who should be taking the early international calls prior to 9. a.m.

No. I have done it for years before he started and I carried on. But he will have to take over now I guess. I am ignoring calls before 9am.

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 15:22

You never know, @LouuLou - you might find a whole new world out there, which suits you much better in the end! Fingers crossed.

LouuLou · Yesterday 15:32

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · Yesterday 15:22

You never know, @LouuLou - you might find a whole new world out there, which suits you much better in the end! Fingers crossed.

Thank you for your kindness. I hope so!

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HardyGreenFox · Yesterday 15:59

Be careful with scheduling emails to send later. It will send at the time you ask - but the email will be stamped with the actual (earlier) time you sent it