AIBU to think this quote sums up Tommy Robinson and his supporters?

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The quote is taken from the British philosopher Bertrand Russell's essay on Fascim in 1940,

"The first step in a fascist movement is the combination under an energetic leader of a number of men who possess more than the average share of leisure, brutality, and stupidity. The next step is to fascinate fools and muzzle the intelligent, by emotional excitement on the one hand and terrorism on the other."

To me it sums them up, but it sums up a lot of the far right in general. The same could be said about Farage and many of his supporters too.

Wow so they've been failed by the Tories, yet most Reform MPs and councillors etc are failed tories. Just because somebody changes the label on the tin, doesn't mean the contents aren't the same. In this case the contents are worse. There is nothing wrong with being proud of being British and wanting a stable economy that allows you to prosper and thrive. The problem is scape gloating immigrants for all the failures of society. Brown and black people aren't the reason why British people are suffering. The ultra wealthy are, yet clowns and thugs will march and vote for parties that represent the interests of the super rich.

Putin will be rubbing his hands with glee, first Brexit and now people marching with his plant little Tommy ten names. There are external dark actors funding this division of the UK. The cold war never ended and people cannot see that there are people benefiting from this division and destabilisation of this country. People think things are bad now, but they have no clue how bad things can really get.

Extreme Islamists will rubbing their hands with glee, that yet another hate march is going on tomorrow.

And trans women have nothing more in common with biological women than any other man does apart from a stolen name.

Take that name away, look for something that means trans women are women and you realise there is nothing except the word, nothing real under it, nothing other than a stolen word to justify all the demands made of women under the banner of "inclusivity".

Whether the New Green party is technically "Fascist" or not (it isn't), it certainly is Authoritarian, Misogynist and Repressive.

It is a party that will openly and proudly silence women talking about our own reality, our own self knowledge, our own need for rights and representation as female people.

No one truly believes there's no significant difference between trans women and female people. No one truly believes Feminists don't have a point.

They just don't think it matters.

And because they don't think it matters - because they don't think women's autonomous existence as female humans not ideas in men's heads matters - they are happy to deal with this small annoyance by exercising power and control to shut women up rather than engage honestly with the issue.

That should scare anyone. Because if they are a happy to lie like this, what else will they lie about? If they are happy to squash opposing voices on this, what else will they squash?

Sadly true.

Well I can't imagine anyone who actually ever was a moderate wanting that. Maybe someone who considered themselves a moderate but who had views already actually to the right? Most people think they themselves are entirely reasonable even when they aren't.
I don't think it is people wanting more inclusion or fairer wealth who have caused a reactive move (for some people) further to the right. I think some of it is eg the failure of intervention with horrendous situations like the rape gangs where authorities turned a blind eye so as not to be labelled racist. Their appalling lack of action has not been condemned enough, and has therefore been weaponised as no one caring about white British and foreigners can move here and 'take over' and there will be a big cover up as there is no one brave enough to call it out. The fact that loads of the Reform/ Tommy Robinson lot also care not a jot for women and children gets lost in the noise/ ignored.

Two cheeks of the same arse just made me laugh 🤣

I thought we were all assuming Russian bots were behind this civil disorder?

Thanks ChatGPT

Well Robinson gave the young British schoolgirl a public platform. Shame it was the left who denied her the chance to celebrate her heritage in the first place. You're kidding yourselves if you think the left care anymore for women than the right.

To quote Ben Shaprio "Facts don't care about your feelings"

Well quite.

Talking about chatGPT, did anyone watch the video discussing the recent online project where some tech bros set up a simulated AI town and left AI agents from ChatGPT, Grok, Gemini and Claude to themselves for 15 days. I’ll see if I can find a video. It was fascinating.

https://x.com/Channel4News/status/2054914259360924130

Starmer calling tomorrow's march "unpatriotic". Well yes, there IS one march taking place which certainly doesn't care to bring the country together, quite the opposite. Well done Starmer for once again, failing to see the other side.

Absolutely. The cover up has helped drive support for anyone who does discuss it.

Who moved the Sikh community?

Also we have to remember how much money is being thrown at Reform to win. We know about some of the tens of millions. They are rolling in it. They can pay for all the propaganda in all its forms.

Surely we should be asking why money is being thrown at them that extends beyond billionnaires protecting their own interests.

It's a fascist march led by a Russian shill. Russia wishes to destabilise the West and pays men like Stephen Yaxley Lennon to do so. He's nothing but a paid actor. He doesn't even go by his real name.

How do you not see the echoes from history with movements like this? The Holocaust didn't start with gas chambers, it started out on the streets with marchers. They didn't start by saying the wanted to exterminate the Jews, they started by claiming to be the true patriots who hated the left and wanted to hark back to a time where their country was 'truly great'.

Gay people never wanted to remove the rights of others. They wanted their own rights. Trans activists ( not trans people, many of whom suffer genuine gender dyasphoria and know they haven't changed sex and respect the rights of women to have safe spaces from all male bodies persons) will make a nonsense of single sex provision.

Absolutely. There is a long game being played that does not have the best interests of the average person in this country at its heart. A strong, prosperous, happy and united country is not what the players of this game are seeking.

OK, interesting.

Entirely. There is money to be made in crisis. It's called disaster capitalism. People's prejudice and ignorance will lead them to vote for their own ruin.

Let people vote how they like.

You do you.

Agree. Once again, the OP is selective in her recognition of prejudice, a bit like our current PM. Fancy singling out the Unite the UK rally at a time when his popularity is at an all time low. He really never learns.

Member of their own community, for fear of ' shaming the family' although Sikh support groups did he flight the issue https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23921570

What these people usually mean is you are voting incorrectly if you are voting for somebody I disagree with.