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Stacey Soloman rant that actually just shows what's wrong with the world

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Shell204 · 15/05/2026 01:55

So I've just watched a video where shes addressing someone writing an article about her sister and how she used to work as a peads nurse but now makes money online like Stacey because shes better off and get more time with her family.

How is this the way the world works?
Im not disregarding why influencers do it becaise I would if I could being a nurse myself but this is so wrong that this is the best way of getting money these days.

Its the same with ladbaby etc why the hell are all these people getting crazy money for all this stuff.

Sorry just had to rant whilst on my break on night shift on my extra shift that ive taken 🙃

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Gwenhwyfar · 15/05/2026 12:51

StillAGoth · 15/05/2026 12:12

But that's why the pay is crap. The conditions and responsibility might feel easier to bear if people felt they were properly paid for it.

But the pay isn't crap!

Gwenhwyfar · 15/05/2026 12:53

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 12:15

It's only crap pay when comparing it to influencers.

Exactly. It's good compared to average. It may be 'crap' compared to successful content creators, but probably not compared to less successful ones who do it as side hustles or hobbies.

Priceyyy · 15/05/2026 12:55

My friends daughter was only 18 and had a great office job in London that she absolutely loved but she was always really in to make up, skincare ect and started to use TikTok to do tutorials. She started making a bit of money then I was round my friends and her daughter turned up in a brand new BMW and had had a boob job. Turns out now she’s raking it in on Only Fans

Crushed23 · 15/05/2026 12:55

Fizbosshoes · 15/05/2026 12:06

I think it would equally soul destroying spending ages making my kitchen/room look photogenic, artfully arranging things , making myself look good, making a video .....and then getting 10 followers who are mostly friends and family...and not earning a bean....because I imagine that is the reality for a lot of hopefuls!

You think this is “equally soul destroying” as waking up at 6am every day, commuting in rush hour, spending 40-60 hours a week looking at a screen, working on something that you could not be less passionate about, having unreasonable deadlines, dealing with diabolical people, whether bosses or clients, etc etc (I really could go on and on here)?

Give me rearranging furniture and applying make up and autonomy over my time any day.

The ONLY thing keeping me in the former instead of chasing something along the lines of the latter is the money. I’m 15 years in now and earning very well. I’m trapped. These careers are specifically designed this way.

Crushed23 · 15/05/2026 12:56

Fizbosshoes · 15/05/2026 12:06

I think it would equally soul destroying spending ages making my kitchen/room look photogenic, artfully arranging things , making myself look good, making a video .....and then getting 10 followers who are mostly friends and family...and not earning a bean....because I imagine that is the reality for a lot of hopefuls!

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Fizbosshoes · 15/05/2026 12:06

I think it would equally soul destroying spending ages making my kitchen/room look photogenic, artfully arranging things , making myself look good, making a video .....and then getting 10 followers who are mostly friends and family...and not earning a bean....because I imagine that is the reality for a lot of hopefuls!

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Crushed23 · 15/05/2026 12:56

Fizbosshoes · 15/05/2026 12:06

I think it would equally soul destroying spending ages making my kitchen/room look photogenic, artfully arranging things , making myself look good, making a video .....and then getting 10 followers who are mostly friends and family...and not earning a bean....because I imagine that is the reality for a lot of hopefuls!

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Thiswaythatwayforwardandbackway · 15/05/2026 13:15

Equally, you could say it's soul destroying to sell useless tat to people online who don't need it and can't afford it?

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:35

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 11:33

If she can make more money online then she'd be a fool not to.

The point is she's only able to because she's Stacey sister.

Before Youtube and Tiktok you needed a combination of talent and good luck to become 'famous'. Now you can make videos from your kitchen talking about nothing and become famous and make a lot of money. But the overwhelming majority of people doing that don't make a penny but it's become part of societies dreams and aspirations now and suggested as a career.

Which makes people even disgruntled and angry at life because 'that woman does exactly the same as me but i'm ignored online'.

We used to have unrealistic aspirations of being famous models, singers or actresses to make the big bucks but that took some talent and work and effort or just 'being discovered' whereas none of that is required now for fame and money so it seems more realistic to aspire to. But the facts remain it's still unlikely to happen but seems more in reach. Ans makes people more angry when it isn't happening for them.

And 'influencers' are contributing to the brain rot in society. Where people get applauded for cleaning their house or doing their weekly shop. Or for having multiple children that they exploit online.

Being Stacey’s sister would give her access points and an understanding of the industry just as anyone else benefits from a family member in their target business. However if you think influencers and content creators are talentless because it looks easy that suggests you know nothing about the industry or the work involved.

If you saw Osipova tripping across the stage effortlessly would you think it ridiculous that she is highly paid for something so easy? Or do you bear in mind the punishing hours of training, practice and prep which goes into that brief, effortless performance?

Content creators spend huge amounts of time prepping, planning, shooting, editing, marketing etc investing in their own kit and paying for their own airtime/slots to get started. The hours are very antisocial for many content creators and its fiercely competitive. There is no safety net, no nice public sector benefits and gold plated pension. If they don’t get the numbers they don’t get paid.

For every Madonna and Pele there are tens of thousands of wedding/pub/cruise singers and part time footballers who barely scrape a living and then age out rapidly and need a second career.

The successes you dismiss are the 0.1%. There is a second tier who earn a living but not much more. The majority don’t cover their costs. It may not be your choice of entertainment but that doesn’t make it any less skilled than other areas of entertainment.

Thiswaythatwayforwardandbackway · 15/05/2026 13:35

I admired Jemma as a peads nurse who then went on to build a successful business with 'the label lady'. I can't help but feel it's a little sad that she shut down her company to be an influencer. However, I can understand why she made the choice. I think many of us would be tempted if we had the carrot dangled infront of us. Why slog away running a business when she's being handed these opportunites and is privy to the wealth her sister has accumulated from it? In saying that it wouldn't be for me, the whole influencer thing seems so disingenuous and I wouldn't feel good about myself doing it.

Coconutter24 · 15/05/2026 13:39

Cheese55 · 15/05/2026 07:02

Or she's better at influencing than nursing?

Maybe so, it doesn’t make her disgusting though like the other poster called her

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 13:51

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:35

Being Stacey’s sister would give her access points and an understanding of the industry just as anyone else benefits from a family member in their target business. However if you think influencers and content creators are talentless because it looks easy that suggests you know nothing about the industry or the work involved.

If you saw Osipova tripping across the stage effortlessly would you think it ridiculous that she is highly paid for something so easy? Or do you bear in mind the punishing hours of training, practice and prep which goes into that brief, effortless performance?

Content creators spend huge amounts of time prepping, planning, shooting, editing, marketing etc investing in their own kit and paying for their own airtime/slots to get started. The hours are very antisocial for many content creators and its fiercely competitive. There is no safety net, no nice public sector benefits and gold plated pension. If they don’t get the numbers they don’t get paid.

For every Madonna and Pele there are tens of thousands of wedding/pub/cruise singers and part time footballers who barely scrape a living and then age out rapidly and need a second career.

The successes you dismiss are the 0.1%. There is a second tier who earn a living but not much more. The majority don’t cover their costs. It may not be your choice of entertainment but that doesn’t make it any less skilled than other areas of entertainment.

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There are numerous talentless influencers - family ones in particular.

It might take some work but it doesn't mean they're talented, they just joined Youtube at the right time.

8 passengers is a great example and has led to the exposure of child abuse in the domain.

The most famous family vloggers in the UK are also the most controversial, Inghams, Sullivans etc.

No discernable talent, just exploiting their children for cash and joined Youtube at the right time.

And the ones that the smaller channels complain about but also aspire to 'they're doing the same as we do but making ££££'

There is a LOT of money in child exploitation on Youtube and Tiktok and Stacey et al are part of it.

Fizbosshoes · 15/05/2026 13:52

Crushed23 · 15/05/2026 12:55

You think this is “equally soul destroying” as waking up at 6am every day, commuting in rush hour, spending 40-60 hours a week looking at a screen, working on something that you could not be less passionate about, having unreasonable deadlines, dealing with diabolical people, whether bosses or clients, etc etc (I really could go on and on here)?

Give me rearranging furniture and applying make up and autonomy over my time any day.

The ONLY thing keeping me in the former instead of chasing something along the lines of the latter is the money. I’m 15 years in now and earning very well. I’m trapped. These careers are specifically designed this way.

They aren't either or though?
Not everyone works 40-60 hours a week, or has a long commute.
My point was that you might be spending a lot of time and effort making content...for not many followers or no money . Not everyone who wants that lifestyle or income will be either good or successful. Thats a hobby and its fine but you'd still need to do something potentially boring to pay your bills!

Thiswaythatwayforwardandbackway · 15/05/2026 13:52

UniquePinkSwan · 15/05/2026 07:26

My DS (18) has autism and can’t work as he finds a lot of stuff distressing and can’t speak to people he doesn’t know. He started YouTube at 16 to gain confidence and now makes around £3000 a month and it goes up all the time. People who look down on this sort of thing is just jealous in my opinion. This is a lifeline for him and he makes me so proud. There is nothing wrong with making money online

How will he ever learn to overcome these issues if he's spending all his time tucked away in his bedrooom alone? Is that really what you want for him for the rest of his life?

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:55

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 13:51

There are numerous talentless influencers - family ones in particular.

It might take some work but it doesn't mean they're talented, they just joined Youtube at the right time.

8 passengers is a great example and has led to the exposure of child abuse in the domain.

The most famous family vloggers in the UK are also the most controversial, Inghams, Sullivans etc.

No discernable talent, just exploiting their children for cash and joined Youtube at the right time.

And the ones that the smaller channels complain about but also aspire to 'they're doing the same as we do but making ££££'

There is a LOT of money in child exploitation on Youtube and Tiktok and Stacey et al are part of it.

Ok, so you plainly know nothing about the industry.

However talentless you perceive the person on screen to be, if they are making money out of it they are putting in the hours, recognising what people want and successfully producing that content whilst running a business.

Don’t confuse “crap which doesn’t interest me” with “talentless” because none of them would last five minutes in such a competitive market, where yesterday’s big thing is today’s chip paper unless they had staying power and the talents needed by the industry.

I find most reality shows tedious and unentertaining despite their audiences of millions. I don’t assume they are talentless programme makers I just accept its not my thing.

JLou08 · 15/05/2026 13:58

Public sector staff are paid from the government purse. No one wants to pay tax, many or against increasing taxes for businesses or the very wealthy, so the money stays in the private sector, the big businesses make enough profit to pay influencers a lot of money. It's that simple really. Unless those who earn more are taxed more those doing jobs to serve the public like nursing, fire fighters, teachers etc will continue to be worse off.

BurnoutBee · 15/05/2026 13:58

Yep my niece worked with young people with severe LD. Earnt a pittance. Now earns triple as a food content creator. No brainer for her, but yeah, something is very backwards.

QuintadosMalvados · 15/05/2026 13:59

Thiswaythatwayforwardandbackway · 15/05/2026 13:52

How will he ever learn to overcome these issues if he's spending all his time tucked away in his bedrooom alone? Is that really what you want for him for the rest of his life?

What's your problem with this?
Do you think that he can unlearn his autism? He can't.
Well done to him for finding a way around his issues and earning fairly good money out of it.

Oh and BTW, just because people are autistic it does not mean that they are stupid. Apologies if you don't mean that but that's how it comes across to me.
He may be exceptionally good at a particular subject and he shares his knowledge with others.

The Internet has been a godsend for some autistic people.

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 14:01

Thiswaythatwayforwardandbackway · 15/05/2026 13:52

How will he ever learn to overcome these issues if he's spending all his time tucked away in his bedrooom alone? Is that really what you want for him for the rest of his life?

As the PP said in their post - confidence is boosted by the success. If he is running a YouTube channel there is likely to be a lot of interacting with followers, understanding what they want to see then creating that content and then marketing it to wider audiences (often by building relationships with other creators). If he does sponsorships that also requires interacting with other people and businesses.

Its an area which people like this 18 yr old often find can give them an outlet and a place to try out their business ideas. It may work, many don’t but if he is netting 3K per month he is running a successful business in this sector and the confidence built will help wider relationships, the track record of running a business will make him more employable elsewhere.

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 14:12

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:55

Ok, so you plainly know nothing about the industry.

However talentless you perceive the person on screen to be, if they are making money out of it they are putting in the hours, recognising what people want and successfully producing that content whilst running a business.

Don’t confuse “crap which doesn’t interest me” with “talentless” because none of them would last five minutes in such a competitive market, where yesterday’s big thing is today’s chip paper unless they had staying power and the talents needed by the industry.

I find most reality shows tedious and unentertaining despite their audiences of millions. I don’t assume they are talentless programme makers I just accept its not my thing.

Can you explain to me what talent for e.g the Radfords have?

Other than having numerous children and making money from it?

What talent are we talking about?

Cheese55 · 15/05/2026 14:12

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:55

Ok, so you plainly know nothing about the industry.

However talentless you perceive the person on screen to be, if they are making money out of it they are putting in the hours, recognising what people want and successfully producing that content whilst running a business.

Don’t confuse “crap which doesn’t interest me” with “talentless” because none of them would last five minutes in such a competitive market, where yesterday’s big thing is today’s chip paper unless they had staying power and the talents needed by the industry.

I find most reality shows tedious and unentertaining despite their audiences of millions. I don’t assume they are talentless programme makers I just accept its not my thing.

This is what i was trying to say earlier but you said it much better. This talentless thing annoys because most can't succeed so those that do have worked out what to provide so that is skilled in itself

Threeslothsontheshirt · 15/05/2026 14:27

Shallow shit spouted by vacuous, talentless morons.

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 14:33

Cheese55 · 15/05/2026 14:12

This is what i was trying to say earlier but you said it much better. This talentless thing annoys because most can't succeed so those that do have worked out what to provide so that is skilled in itself

How is having multiple children and exploiting them online a talent or a skill?

People being willing to consume the content and the creators being able to make money from it isn't evidence of talent or skill. Otherwise we'd say CSAM makers are talented and skilled?

ThatPeachQuail · 15/05/2026 14:50

C8H10N4O2 · 15/05/2026 13:55

Ok, so you plainly know nothing about the industry.

However talentless you perceive the person on screen to be, if they are making money out of it they are putting in the hours, recognising what people want and successfully producing that content whilst running a business.

Don’t confuse “crap which doesn’t interest me” with “talentless” because none of them would last five minutes in such a competitive market, where yesterday’s big thing is today’s chip paper unless they had staying power and the talents needed by the industry.

I find most reality shows tedious and unentertaining despite their audiences of millions. I don’t assume they are talentless programme makers I just accept its not my thing.

And as i've just replied to another poster.

That could be said for makers of CSAM or animal torture or whatever else we know makes huge amounts of money online.

The makers are putting in the hours. recognising what people want and successfully producing that content. Also a very competitive market.

Doesn't make it okay though does it? or make the makers skilled or talented at all or in identifying that want online?

It's not my thing as you say, and hopefully not yours but you seem to think identifying a want in the online market and producing content to feed that, is evidence of talent and skill?

If you don't think it applies to those creators then why not?

IsabellaVireauxLaurent · 15/05/2026 15:04

Permenatlyworried · 15/05/2026 06:08

Being an influencer is not really a job that is helping our society function the way we need it too. We need doctors, nurses, nursery workers, carers, bin men, teachers, etc or we are fucked for the future if every teen only wants to make TikTok videos.

but you could then say that about footballers, the whole tv and entertainment industry all of it is not essential for soceity