Stacey Soloman rant that actually just shows what's wrong with the world

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So I've just watched a video where shes addressing someone writing an article about her sister and how she used to work as a peads nurse but now makes money online like Stacey because shes better off and get more time with her family.

How is this the way the world works?
Im not disregarding why influencers do it becaise I would if I could being a nurse myself but this is so wrong that this is the best way of getting money these days.

Its the same with ladbaby etc why the hell are all these people getting crazy money for all this stuff.

Sorry just had to rant whilst on my break on night shift on my extra shift that ive taken 🙃

@Dizzydrizzy do an AMA!

I watched the original post by Stacey’s sister and, condescendingly, was surprised by how calm, articulate and strong she was. The essence of her argument is that women act in judgment of each other and nitpick at each other’s life choices, often whilst considering themselves to be strong independent role models.

Except from the part when she's a highly successful businesswoman

I wonder whether the influencer bubble will burst at some point. The market will become saturated and you will then have to work all hours to make it worthwhile and such jobs will just take the place of the normal workplace now

You need to watch the clip before commenting. You are getting it all wrong.

It's ridiculous and cringe. Not sure why these social platforms are enabling it and paying these free loaders in the first place.

I wonder too, I sometimes watch the ones who do all the Temu/Primark/B and M/Home Bargains "hauls" and also post videos of them unpacking their grocery deliveries and cleaning their homes. I think that some of them make a reasonable living from it, judging by their houses and the holidays they go on but how long can anyone sustain a living by buying endless tat and making videos showing it off? I also wonder where they keep all this stuff, if I was buying a load of things from at least 4 shops or online places a month my house would look like a department store. Do they resell it, take it back, donate it?

I actually think it is this narrative that is doing the most harm. No, of course they don’t have to be “martyrs for nothing”. And when have young people EVER been “sure” that a career would turn into something that would the provide lifestyle they want? I’m old and that certainly isn’t something I took for granted.

Opportunities still exist and, IF you are willing to work for them, they pay off. I’ve recently employed a 22yr old with no degree, on £35k pa. If he continues on his current trajectory (no reason to think he wouldn’t, he’s keen and commited) he will be on around £60k before he’s 30, with earning potential as he progresses up to around £100k. And he works set hours, no stupid overtime or ridiculous requirements.

We need to stop the message to young people that it isn’t possible. It IS possible and it IS available if you look for it and you have the right attitude.

I think the market is already pretty saturated. You see it with the 'parenting influencers' - they used to be pretty 'average' families, now to get the views you need a hook, like having 9 kids or something, surrogacy, living in an RV. It worries me because some people are clearly letting what will play well in that space shape their life decisions - there are quite a few babies who now exist because pregnancy and newborn content does well 😕

There's also no guarantee of making a substantial income as an influencer. If you apply for a job the salary is there in black and white, im not saying no one should give it a go but I think it does involve a certain personality and skill to engage people over a sustained period, and entrepreneurial nature, to keep thinking of different content, not everyone is going to have that...

Do you class Stacey Solomon as one of the best minds in the world then? I’m not really sure who you’re aiming this at, I don’t think many of the world’s greatest minds are wasting them arsing about on TikTok.

Agree. And, you open yourself up to a world of online hate and vitriol. Some of the vile comments I see people make about people they have never met, blows my mind. You have to be extremely resilient, mentally, to tolerate that and honestly, how many young people are?

Thing is that there's a limit to how many people can become successful SM influencers. The market will be saturated eventually and the "influencer" trend will also start to decline and eventually disappear as people get fed up of it. Like any new "trend" or business, the early adopters are the ones who make the killing. As time passes, it will be harder for them to keep being successful as new influencers will come along with more exciting lives and people will get fed up of watching it.

BUT, we also need to make more traditional "work" more attractive. At the moment, with the stupid tax hikes, tax cliff edges, etc., "working" in a normal job is becoming less attractive. Government(s) need to start incentivising work, both by incentivising rather than penalising employers (reverse Reeve's stupid NIC changes would be a good start), removing tax/benefit cliff edges, make child care and commuting costs tax deductible (as they are in some other countries), and bring in an absolute "cap" in the tax/benefit system so that no one "loses" more than 50% of their extra wages for working an extra shift, taking a promotion, etc., so that the worker always keeps at least 50p of every extra £1 they earn, taking into account everything, i.e. tax, NIC, student loan, childcare, universal credit, subsidised rent, free prescriptions, etc etc. The Tories said "make work pay" as a glib sound bit but didn't follow it through. What we need are brave intelligent politicians to actually walk the walk, not talk the talk!

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Employed many young women lately on these conditions - or indeed older women who have to retrain due to motherhood and their old profession being killed off?

Whats the job spec, how can I apply, and how can I beat the rush from the hundreds of other nursing assistants in my hospital Ali e who would also love to try?

Everyone I know is scrabbling around desperately trying to find something that will work as computers take over. Unfortunately it is highly doubtful that internet channels will work for any woman who does not want to sell sex essentially, via youth and botoxed looks.

It is the job of government to make society work, and that includes making it worthwhile to do the jobs that society actually needs. As pps have said we need nurses, and midwives, rather more than “influencers” - or footballers. And the fact that the influencers can bring in so much money that they pay more tax - assuming they do pay it - is precisely the problem being complained about.

Life is cheap and unvalued.

What, exactly, is the problem with someone a) not wanting to continue with a nursing career if it’s no longer for them and b) finding an alternative way to make money?

I believe Stacey’s sister had a small business for a few years which she recently closed. Being an influencer is also a business. It’s not easy and it takes work. It requires a hell of a lot of tech skill, marketing knowledge, understanding of analytics and a lot of creativity. It’s no different from any other freelance comms business in that respect.

Would people be ranting and kicking off if she was a freelance marketing manager? Because basically that is what influencing is.

I’m not sure someone quitting a nursing job because they can make more money online shows anything about what is wrong with the world. That’s such an extreme take on someone taking an opportunity that will benefit them. Is it because she was a nurse or would you have the same take if she worked checkouts in ASDA? I’m not sure if you are annoyed that she left her job because you think she should remain morally or if you just don’t like the fact she is making more money and fast? Either way there is a shitload of things wrong with the world today but SS’s sister making some videos isn’t one of them. It doesn’t even come close to being a ‘what’s wrong with the world’ people have been grabbing opportunities for literally centuries to make money, sure it differs now but minimal labour and happy work/life balance sounds like a dream to the majority, if it isn’t putting your life online it is often something else, not sure why you would care.

Oh give over! She doesn't owe anybody anything. I trained as a nurse and now work in a creative line of work.

I BLOODY KNEW that would come up! And actually, yes, I have also taken on two women in similar circumstances but that was 2-3 yrs ago now, so they are well on their way. AND I employ women with young children who need flexibility for childcare (most on £60k +) and yes I also employ older people, one of my key staff retrained at 45, she has been with me for 7 years and is 62 next month. Why wouldn’t I employ any of these people? They are all brilliant.

That’s not the point, you’re damned right nurses don’t owe anyone anything. The problem is the creation of a society where so many assume they do and can talk to them like shit while paying them nothing and restricting their rights to strike and protest. There are not enough ‘creative’ jobs to go round to cover the workforce of people who need to work to live, thanks to the depredations of rich elites for centuries. Nor are creative jobs likely to be immune to modern computing i.e. AI.

Great. So the answers to my other questions?? I assume you pay enough to live in the location you require without inheritance or family support?

And have enough jobs for everyone?

Only a small amount of influencers earn enough to to do that full time. Most others online have to do it around their normal job.

Jemma is lucky that her sister is well known and also has 6 million insta followers. Jemma is known to all these followers as features a
lot on Stacey’s posts. So she had the privilege of gaining loads of followers on the back of that.

I know many slogging their guts out on shift work would bite someone’s hand off, if they could instead have the cushier, well paid life of an influencer if it was handed to them on a plate.

"Also - you could do it, there is literally nothing stopping anyone creating videos and posting them online, you just need enough drive and motivation to put in the hard graft it takes to build an online audience (and plenty of people do it alongside full time jobs and caring duties)."

As you say, it helps to have a famous sister. Also, I think there's an element of luck. Some people make it on YouTube etc. and for others it will only every be a side hobby.

""Good luck to them", but it is hardly a worthwhile life "

Why isn't it any less worthwhile than so many other jobs?

Very, very much, but she also knows a lot about them for someone who has so much disdain!