AIBU to think Kemi’s speech showed real leadership potential?

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Just listening to her speech. She’s badass, seems to know and understand the mood of the country - she could very well be this country’s saviour from extremism and bankruptcy

Exactly, but none of that is down to her, is it? If she manages to capitalise on it fine, but it won't make her a great leader, it'll make her lucky. The thing is, if the Tory results last week are anything to go by, she won't benefiting from it much in any case.

Fair enough you want to give her the benefit of the doubt. I feel differently.

Because I like reform too.

Well, I'll change my view if you can demonstrate that I'm wrong and she had hypocritically defended these mass prayer events in the past and it's not simply based on your hunch and a general dislike for the women.

Admittedly I haven’t heard the speech, but speeches by Kemi being seen as demonstrating leadership potential does not compute. In general she comes across like a self important member of a student debating society.

Well tbf they never seemed to be a significant issue for anyone until this year, so the need to defend wouldn't have arisen.

Has she said anything negative ever about Vaisakhi in the Square or Diwali in the Square or Chanukah in the Square? The Passion of the Jesus?

I heard someone on the radio talking about Keir starmer and they said he can do the job, but he can’t talk the talk, he can’t rally/ motivate/ bring together through speeches the way others can, but they were wondering would that be his undoing

She said if they were inclusive celebrations, like a festival, that's a different issue to religious ritual in our public spaces. @TemperanceWest

Yes they've effed up in certain areas but Labour cannot magic coppers,soldiers ,nurses,military hardware from thin air conservative party cuts to the above and services aren't going to be turned round in two years.

Nope, she’s the woman who wanted us to help Trump, can’t be trusted

I like how she comes across. She’s intelligent and erudite.

She doesn’t have a chance - she’s a woman, black - how would this sit in Middle England? Really?

And the implication she could join Racist Reform is preposterous!

I am no Tory but I do wish they would get their act together though.

She didn’t apply it across the board. There was no objection from her for the massive Easter celebration at Trafalgar Square.

Well enough that she is currently more popular than all the other male, white party leaders.

Reform take grifters of any race.

The Tories aren't centrist.

I wondered that. The Tories are fine with women in theory but they must be white apparently 🙄

Yep

Yup, in the patch of NW London where I used to live, most of the Reform candidates last week were Asian….

She won the party leadership over Jenrick because she was favoured by the membership.

She's William Hague. She's not even IDS or Portillo. I'm sure the Tories will eventually bounce back (to fuck the country all over again) but it won't be thanks to KB.

Rishi Sunak?

Why do so many people refer to politicians by their first name? Are they totally unaware of convention?

Badenoch isn't a great leader or a good politician, quite the opposite. She's terrible. I don't think anyone seriously imagines she'll ever be PM. If the Tories had any sense they'd return to the pre-Thatcher centre right and let Labour shift over to the centre left. But no. They all want to try and outdo Reform. If we get a far right government next time the blame will be firmly with Starmer and Badenoch and anyone who voted for them to lead their respective parties in the full knowledge that they're both absolute duds.

Yes they are. They don’t want the death penalty, they don’t promote willy nilly gun ownership, they don’t want to make being LGBT illegal, in fact didn’t they introduce gay marriage? Their taxes are high. What part of them is very right wing?

She won it because Cleverly's supporters messed up.