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Almost 80 MPs have called for Starmer to Resign. Streeting making his move before Burnham has a chance to get in. Leadership election between Starmer, Streeting & Rayner, & a few MPs looking to make a name. Official Tue 12th?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 11/05/2026 21:44

Link to spreadsheet of Labour MPS calling for resignation - https://x.com/GuidoFawkes/status/2053925699824574889

Streeting has to make his move now, Starmer will never be this weak and he has the chance to go now.

Burnham might be more likely to win, but he is not in, and where exactly is a safe seat by election they could parachute him in for? (nowhere)

So - Streeting will never have a better chance of being PM, he pulls the trigger NOW or he never pulls it at all.

I did say on Thursday that I thought it would be Friday or Monday.... Tuesday is a pretty good guess.

This is a quiet Bat People moment... That Speech... not worth remembering...

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Matt Bishop according to Sam Coates. 75. https://t.co/qC4H6KwkEZ

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Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 21:27

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 21:14

Who here thinks WS was a good Health Secretary? I don’t think he was that effective, personally.

Me.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 21:28

HelenaWaiting · 14/05/2026 21:25

Direct quote from @SingleSexSpacesInSchools: it’s not that every word Hitler ever said, was Fascistic, that’s ridiculous.

Just so you all know what you're dealing with here.

Thanks @HelenaWaiting. Good to know that OP is a Nazi apologist. Christ.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 21:32

Twiglets1 · 14/05/2026 21:27

Me.

I’d genuinely be interested to find out why.

I think he is a really good communicator and he seems to be a good local MP, but I don’t think he was a good Health Sec.

He announced this really ambitious 10-year plan for the NHS last summer, which I thought sounded great, but I don’t think he’s progressed a single thing on it.

And neither me, my friends or my family have seen the benefits of anything he has done as Health Secretary and I can’t name any of his achievements.

This article seems to suggest he just put off all the difficult decisions: www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/14/wes-streeting-vowed-fix-broken-nhs-critics-failed

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 21:44

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 21:14

Who here thinks WS was a good Health Secretary? I don’t think he was that effective, personally.

I don’t and I think his resignation letter was very self serving. But that is to be expected, I suppose.

I unlike you @Thefastandthecurious5 am not a labour supporter but we can agree on some things.

He is a performer, if Wes speaks it is with the media circle in attendance. Enough said!

You say that you think Starmer’s heart is in the right place. I am sure he is not a cruel and heartless man, but he keeps his feelings close to his chest, let’s go all out on the cliches. Does that feeling come from a place of labour ideology over and above the man?

This government is not working. Will keeping Starmer in place achieve the, not only stability, but radical reforms that the UK needs. Or do we just keep limping on?

We all can determine the differences between the damage successive governments are
responsible for. We are beyond tit for tat politics here.

I would say, these are interesting times.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 21:47

HelenaWaiting · 14/05/2026 21:25

Direct quote from @SingleSexSpacesInSchools: it’s not that every word Hitler ever said, was Fascistic, that’s ridiculous.

Just so you all know what you're dealing with here.

Yes. It’s called someone who understands reality.

keep going through, dig a hole.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 21:47

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 21:44

I don’t and I think his resignation letter was very self serving. But that is to be expected, I suppose.

I unlike you @Thefastandthecurious5 am not a labour supporter but we can agree on some things.

He is a performer, if Wes speaks it is with the media circle in attendance. Enough said!

You say that you think Starmer’s heart is in the right place. I am sure he is not a cruel and heartless man, but he keeps his feelings close to his chest, let’s go all out on the cliches. Does that feeling come from a place of labour ideology over and above the man?

This government is not working. Will keeping Starmer in place achieve the, not only stability, but radical reforms that the UK needs. Or do we just keep limping on?

We all can determine the differences between the damage successive governments are
responsible for. We are beyond tit for tat politics here.

I would say, these are interesting times.

Would agree with all of this

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 21:49

feellikeanalien · 14/05/2026 18:48

Well I've just been listening to a discussion onTimes radio and apparently the MP who is standing down had a 6000 majority but in the recent local elections the councils in in both parts of the constituency went to Reform. They also came second in the GE.

I have a nasty feeling that Labour may have shot themselves in the foot here.

Burnham could stand and lose and Labour could also lose the mayoralty in Manchester.

The country really doesn't need this and ironically the latest growth figures show that for the latest period we had the strongest growth in the G7 including on a per capita basis.

Well
indeed. Their actions only make a GE more likely …

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 14/05/2026 21:50

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I’m a shitty socialist who… had higher hopes for this government and thinks they could and should have done more.

I’m also a shitty socialist who… believes you can massage the figures all you want but it doesn’t make them reality.

And I’m also a shitty socialist who… is struggling with the cost of living and hasn’t seen any direct benefit to my life or living standards after 18 months of this government.

I don’t think 0.3% monthly growth - or 0.6% quarterly growth - is much at all and I’m expecting the ONS will revise it down, as they did at least twice for previous months.

I also don’t think the NHS target is that impressive as the performance of 10 hospital trusts actually got worse rather than improving.

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 22:05

@Thefastandthecurious5 I said it, we come from different political parties but we can agree. Well said!

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 22:08

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools, how did you allow yourself to get deleted?

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 22:11

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 22:05

@Thefastandthecurious5 I said it, we come from different political parties but we can agree. Well said!

I’m just really disappointed with this government. They haven’t improved my life and they’ve been in power for 18 months. I think they’ve spent too long pandering to Reform rather than doing anything worthwhile.

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SpidersAreShitheads · 14/05/2026 22:19

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 22:11

I’m just really disappointed with this government. They haven’t improved my life and they’ve been in power for 18 months. I think they’ve spent too long pandering to Reform rather than doing anything worthwhile.

I said a very long time ago that Starmer's downfall will be trying to appease everyone but ultimately making no one happy.

And I really do think that's at the heart of what's gone wrong for him.

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 22:25

@Thefastandthecurious5, I don’t follow a tribe, not a floater necessarily, equally not tribal.

Politics, our leaders, nationally and globally are not fit for purpose.

We talk about stability, at a national level. It is desperate. I do get the hope for change from the majority. But maybe stability is the last thing we need. This instability is surely an indicator that the previous, not fit for purpose social status quo is the problem.

None of us are better off, some of us are just better shielded. I am one of those, but it doesn’t feel better on this side either. Because it just all feel like crap.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 14/05/2026 22:35

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 22:25

@Thefastandthecurious5, I don’t follow a tribe, not a floater necessarily, equally not tribal.

Politics, our leaders, nationally and globally are not fit for purpose.

We talk about stability, at a national level. It is desperate. I do get the hope for change from the majority. But maybe stability is the last thing we need. This instability is surely an indicator that the previous, not fit for purpose social status quo is the problem.

None of us are better off, some of us are just better shielded. I am one of those, but it doesn’t feel better on this side either. Because it just all feel like crap.

I’m the same as you in terms of my voting tendencies. I do know I will never vote for Farage though.

I also feel well shielded, which I’m very grateful for, but I just feel like life is so mediocre and I really want to have something to hope for and to aspire to!! I do, of course, have things to look forward to in my personal life, but I mean more in terms of how I relate to society.

I want to feel excited for the future and I just don’t at the moment.

I want things to feel like when Obama became president or how people must have felt when Blair came in. I felt some hope when KS made his first speech as PM on the steps of 10 Downing Street, but apart from his stance on antisemitism and Ukraine, I have been totally unimpressed.

He’s also said lots of stuff I’ve been disgusted by e.g. his ‘island of strangers’ speech and when he said Israel had a right to defend itself (yes, it absolutely does - but not at the cost of obliterating Gaza….)

SpidersAreShitheads · 14/05/2026 22:38

cardibach · 14/05/2026 17:26

It’s not a foregone conclusion he wins the seat. It shows him as deeply personally ambitious and caring more for his career than his commitment to the people of Manchester if he even stands. Labour membership have rejected him twice…
He’s not the Messiah, he’s an arrogant little boy (to paraphrase).

This. I don't think it reflects well on Burnham at all.

I also don't think that there being an orchestrated campaign to unseat Keir Starmer and get Andy Burnham in as PM reflects well on him either.

I heard an interview with Jess Phillips earlier and I thought she was talking a lot of sense when she said that Burnham's camp need to be careful of seeming to feel entitled.

He needs to be cleared to stand, win a by-election, and then be voted in to replace Starmer. That's a lot of hurdles but his camp are talking like it's a done deal.

I don't like Andy Burnham at all - I think he's a bit of a snake who's full of snappy soundbites. Not dissimilar to Wes Streeting to be fair. They're both career politicians who blow whatever way is going to make them more popular.

I was horrified at the success of Reform in the local elections, but there is a bit of me that would find some humour in them winning the seat ahead of Burnham because what would his supporters do then? They can't find him another seat to try out for, and he wouldn't have the mayorship either.

I don't think moving to the left is going to help Labour - and I say this as someone who is a left wing voter and who would probably benefit more from a government that's more to the left.

But I think that it's clear that if anyone was going to launch a leadship challenge, they couldn't do so legitimately without including Andy Burnham - or else they'd be undermined from the inside too, just like Starmer has been for some time.

MNLurker1345 · 14/05/2026 23:00

@Thefastandthecurious5, I don’t do Farage or Trump. But…..I also don’t get to het up about them. I am an optimist at heart.

Stopped being an idealist a long time ago. Saw what the world was and chose to stay informed and non partisan. I love politics, I need to
know how the world works, philosophy and psychology too, keeps me sane.

No man, I say that because we are governed disproportionately by men ( I am not a misandrist), is going to save us and that includes KS.

I do hope for radical change but no one on the political spectrum is going to provide that in these times, says the eternal optimist.

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Awww. I really feel for you, that you have to live with so much hate.

SapphOhNo · 15/05/2026 06:09

Thefastandthecurious5 · 15/05/2026 01:18

Awww. I really feel for you, that you have to live with so much hate.

He can't hear you. Too busy reading Mein Kampf.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/05/2026 06:32

SapphOhNo · 15/05/2026 06:09

He can't hear you. Too busy reading Mein Kampf.

Tired Bored To Death GIF by Jongerencentrum De Pomp

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Twiglets1 · 15/05/2026 07:02

@Thefastandthecurious5 why do I think Wes Streeting was a good Health Secretary?

Under his leadership, the NHS hit an interim target for speeding up hospital treatment in England.

The goal was for 65% of patients to be treated within 18 weeks by March 2026 – and it hit that with the figure reaching 65.3%.

Performance was below 59% when Labour came to power.

The overall size of the waiting list also improved, falling from 7.2 million to 7.1 million in the space of a month - the lowest for three and a half years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgzv0j19vvo

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 15/05/2026 07:52

Twiglets1 · 15/05/2026 07:02

@Thefastandthecurious5 why do I think Wes Streeting was a good Health Secretary?

Under his leadership, the NHS hit an interim target for speeding up hospital treatment in England.

The goal was for 65% of patients to be treated within 18 weeks by March 2026 – and it hit that with the figure reaching 65.3%.

Performance was below 59% when Labour came to power.

The overall size of the waiting list also improved, falling from 7.2 million to 7.1 million in the space of a month - the lowest for three and a half years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgzv0j19vvo

He did better than most on the gender bollocks but now enough and he green lit experimenting on children with drugs we know to cause harm

Sadly his replacement thinks women can penises I believe.

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Conversion therapy is wrong - and a ban isn't really a ban if it can be bypassed with 'consent'. If this loophole remains, the truth is that people in some of the most vulnerable situations will be left exposed to this deeply harmful practice. https:/...

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