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Council Elections

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OneTealShaker · 08/05/2026 00:35

The first declared seats going to Reform.

Reform +2
Labour -1

Buckle up people.

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caringcarer · 08/05/2026 18:32

AImportantMermaid · 08/05/2026 15:58

I don’t think this is the bloodbath people are expecting at all. Labour have suffered losses but they still hold by far the most councils, and most of those they’ve lost have gone to no overall control. Reforms gains have not really turned into control - with the exception of Essex and 2 of the districts. The BBC is reporting change not absolute numbers. There are about 15000 council seats in the UK. Labour have about 5,600 of them. They’ve only lost about 300 so far.

Labour have lost most seats that came up for grabs. It looks like they are losing overall control of Birmingham to Reform and a few independent Gaza people. The Muslim vote has deserted Starmer. They like others in Birmingham are fed up of not getting their bins emptied and public services in disarray in Labour's Bankrupt Birmingham.

BIossomtoes · 08/05/2026 18:33

caringcarer · 08/05/2026 18:32

Labour have lost most seats that came up for grabs. It looks like they are losing overall control of Birmingham to Reform and a few independent Gaza people. The Muslim vote has deserted Starmer. They like others in Birmingham are fed up of not getting their bins emptied and public services in disarray in Labour's Bankrupt Birmingham.

God help the population of Birmingham.

Monty36 · 08/05/2026 18:34

The only way to persuade people to not vote Reform is to hurt them in their living standards and wallet. It will be what undoes Maga in the USA. When Americans hurt enough they will, eventually turn on Trump. But they will only do it when they are really hurting. Financially, economically.
When the NHS voucher you are given doesn’t touch the sides of the cost and is not enough to pay for treatment, when there is no social care placements for your elderly parents. When you don’t qualify for a pension because the new threshold is too low. When shopping costs even more than now.
That sort of thing.

2dogsandabudgie · 08/05/2026 18:39

Pedallleur · 08/05/2026 18:26

Nigel is going to ho round with the JCB pothole machine he was photographed on and fix them himself.

I am in a Reform run county and they have invested £67 million to improve the county's roads including potholes.

BIossomtoes · 08/05/2026 18:41

2dogsandabudgie · 08/05/2026 18:39

I am in a Reform run county and they have invested £67 million to improve the county's roads including potholes.

They promised it last year - have they actually done it?

2dogsandabudgie · 08/05/2026 18:47

BIossomtoes · 08/05/2026 18:41

They promised it last year - have they actually done it?

Yes I have noticed in the town I'm in that potholes have been repaired and you can actually go on the council's website and report a pothole. Not that I have done that. Some country roads near me are still bad but maybe they are starting with heavy traffic flow areas first. We shall see.

Edited to add that a quick Google shows that they'd repaired 23,000 potholes in my area at the end of last year and I think £11 million spent on improving road surfaces.

GimmieABreakOr3 · 08/05/2026 18:59

2dogsandabudgie · 08/05/2026 18:47

Yes I have noticed in the town I'm in that potholes have been repaired and you can actually go on the council's website and report a pothole. Not that I have done that. Some country roads near me are still bad but maybe they are starting with heavy traffic flow areas first. We shall see.

Edited to add that a quick Google shows that they'd repaired 23,000 potholes in my area at the end of last year and I think £11 million spent on improving road surfaces.

Edited

You could always report potholes via council website… doesn’t mean they actually do anything about it though…

Bloozie · 08/05/2026 19:00

caringcarer · 08/05/2026 18:32

Labour have lost most seats that came up for grabs. It looks like they are losing overall control of Birmingham to Reform and a few independent Gaza people. The Muslim vote has deserted Starmer. They like others in Birmingham are fed up of not getting their bins emptied and public services in disarray in Labour's Bankrupt Birmingham.

Excited to see how Reform turn the financial fortunes around.

My county council turned reform with a massive debt.

To the surprise of literally no one, the debt is as big as it ever was, while services decline.

Whysnothingsimple · 08/05/2026 19:11

Bloozie · 08/05/2026 19:00

Excited to see how Reform turn the financial fortunes around.

My county council turned reform with a massive debt.

To the surprise of literally no one, the debt is as big as it ever was, while services decline.

They seriously can’t do any worse than Labour who bankrupted the council and didn’t collect rubbish for months on end. Birmingham is an absolute dump. I loved living and working there for two decades, now I’m too scared to go there

OneTealShaker · 08/05/2026 19:18

SerafinasGoose · 08/05/2026 17:25

The irony is enchanting. You claim 'reality is reality', then you go on to reference abusive and emotional behaviour when the PP's comment was perfectly measured and civil.

You suggest to her that 'people like you' feel better by calling Brexit voters 'racist and stupid and all manner of names', yet the PP has not used any of those terms nor called anyone names. Any reader can read exactly what is written. We can see what she said and what she didn't. It's right there in black and white

I suggest that if your above post is a broader indication of your tenuous grasp on reality, OP, then you're hardly in a position to pontificate to others about what it means.

What are you talking about. A complete ramble.

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OneTealShaker · 08/05/2026 19:19

Pedallleur · 08/05/2026 17:56

Also got the greatest debt by a long way

So what? Who is going to call it in? The US economy is going from strength to strength. Despite Trump derangement syndrome.

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OneTealShaker · 08/05/2026 19:22

Chenecinquantecinq · 08/05/2026 18:02

Who’s seen the footage of the white middle class posh Green candidate lecturing about racist Reform, when the black Reform candidate is stood right behind her 🤣🤣

The Greens just need the big curled toe shoes, stripy pyjamas, a red nose and a curly red wig to complete their look to match their credentials.

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Swiftie1878 · 08/05/2026 19:50

xanthomelana · 08/05/2026 17:09

We knew they were history in Wales. In her resignation speech the FM has just said people should have remembered they were voting for Wales and not Starmer, even she knows people want him gone.

I know. The ‘noise’ is getting louder from MPs. He’s dust.

Swiftie1878 · 08/05/2026 19:55

TyotyaKlava · 08/05/2026 16:12

The question is who are all these people voting reform? Did the last year of a disastrous Trump presidency not teach them anything?what do these voters think reform is going to get them?
the only positive thing is their most likely failed governance of the council will result in the failed general election. I just hope Labour Party gets their sh together by that point!

The fact you are only now asking yourself this question is a big problem.
Non-Reform supporters need to be questioning rather than dismissing and throwing insults.

Exactly the same has happened in the U.S. Too many willing to disparage and label his voters as mouth-breathing rednecks; no one ready to ask Why?

Modernfamily2011 · 08/05/2026 20:08

@Swiftie1878 - Exactly this! Non Reform voters love to shout how racist the reform voters are and how thick they are… No one, including Starmer and Rishi have stopped to ask why
Maybe if they did that, they would understand, I don’t particularly want Farage as PM however I am fed up with being squeezed at every turn, we have a mortgage, kids, cars and get zero child benefit or anything else which is fine
But our Council Tax is now insane, petrol prices, food prices, Tax threshold
Wanting a new system for immigration does not make me racist
Wanting to fly the St George flag also does not make me racist (not that I do)
THIS is why people are voting Reform
Everyone is fed up! And to be fair, Nigel is excellent at articulating his point

FinallyGotToo · 08/05/2026 20:16

caringcarer · 08/05/2026 18:32

Labour have lost most seats that came up for grabs. It looks like they are losing overall control of Birmingham to Reform and a few independent Gaza people. The Muslim vote has deserted Starmer. They like others in Birmingham are fed up of not getting their bins emptied and public services in disarray in Labour's Bankrupt Birmingham.

Birmingham declared bankrupt under a Conservative Government.

I’m not surprised given the year on year millions of pounds worth of cuts my Conservative led councils have had to make under the Conservative government too.

Conservative policy did not support local authority control.

Passingthrough123 · 08/05/2026 20:17

Swiftie1878 · 08/05/2026 19:50

I know. The ‘noise’ is getting louder from MPs. He’s dust.

He has to go. Even Sadiq Khan is calling for it now.

London has been a Labour heartland for eons. It's quite astonishing to watch so many London boroughs now fall to Greens or NOC.

juldan · 08/05/2026 20:22

OneTealShaker · 08/05/2026 19:19

So what? Who is going to call it in? The US economy is going from strength to strength. Despite Trump derangement syndrome.

Oh, really? The only people who suffer from Trump derangement syndrome are the ones who still support him.
US economy going from strength to strength?

Key Comparisons: Now (Early 2026) vs. 2024

  • Current Inflation (March 2026): 3.3% annual rate (330.213 CPI index level).
  • 2024 Full Year Average: 2.95%.
  • Trend: Inflation is currently accelerating, with March 2026 showing the highest levels since mid-2024, reversing the downward trend observed throughout much of 2024.
  • Drivers: The current surge is largely fueled by energy costs, with gasoline rising 18.9% and fuel oil 44.2% as of March 2026.

2024 Average: The unemployment rate for 2024 was 4.11%, which was a slight increase from 2023.

Current Situation (April 2026): The rate is 4.3%. Unemployment is higher despite deporting all these illegals who were stealing the jobs!!!

2024 vs. 2026 Standard of Living Comparison

  • Affordability & Cost of Living: The cost of a "basic but secure" life has continued to rise, with food prices in early 2026 significantly higher than in 2024. By early 2026, utilities increased by over 6% in a year, and 7 in 10 Americans found raising children unaffordable.
  • Income & Debt: While median household income has grown, it is heavily challenged by rising household debt and higher costs for essential services, making it harder for the middle class to gain wealth compared to 2024.
  • Economic Well-being: GDP per capita has continued to rise from 2024 levels, indicating theoretical wealth growth. However, this is largely overshadowed by high interest rates, high rent, and daily necessities taking a larger portion of income.

Where is this supposed strength?

thedramaQueen · 08/05/2026 20:22

Reform voters like to shout don't call us stupid etc. - yet when asked which Reform policies will make your life better they often can't answer that question and actually don't know what the Reform policies are.

FinallyGotToo · 08/05/2026 20:23

Modernfamily2011 · 08/05/2026 20:08

@Swiftie1878 - Exactly this! Non Reform voters love to shout how racist the reform voters are and how thick they are… No one, including Starmer and Rishi have stopped to ask why
Maybe if they did that, they would understand, I don’t particularly want Farage as PM however I am fed up with being squeezed at every turn, we have a mortgage, kids, cars and get zero child benefit or anything else which is fine
But our Council Tax is now insane, petrol prices, food prices, Tax threshold
Wanting a new system for immigration does not make me racist
Wanting to fly the St George flag also does not make me racist (not that I do)
THIS is why people are voting Reform
Everyone is fed up! And to be fair, Nigel is excellent at articulating his point

But our Council Tax is now insane

Are you in Worcestershire (Reform council), with an Increased council tax of 9%?

Swiftie1878 · 08/05/2026 20:26

thedramaQueen · 08/05/2026 20:22

Reform voters like to shout don't call us stupid etc. - yet when asked which Reform policies will make your life better they often can't answer that question and actually don't know what the Reform policies are.

I think that’s the same for most voters tbh.
People vote for who they ‘think’ represent their views, rather than actually wading through their policies.

Who do you vote for?
What are their policies?

EdithBond · 08/05/2026 20:27

Modernfamily2011 · 08/05/2026 20:08

@Swiftie1878 - Exactly this! Non Reform voters love to shout how racist the reform voters are and how thick they are… No one, including Starmer and Rishi have stopped to ask why
Maybe if they did that, they would understand, I don’t particularly want Farage as PM however I am fed up with being squeezed at every turn, we have a mortgage, kids, cars and get zero child benefit or anything else which is fine
But our Council Tax is now insane, petrol prices, food prices, Tax threshold
Wanting a new system for immigration does not make me racist
Wanting to fly the St George flag also does not make me racist (not that I do)
THIS is why people are voting Reform
Everyone is fed up! And to be fair, Nigel is excellent at articulating his point

Could you explain the top 5 Reform policies that you’re convinced will improve your life. Genuine question.

thedramaQueen · 08/05/2026 20:34

Swiftie1878 · 08/05/2026 20:26

I think that’s the same for most voters tbh.
People vote for who they ‘think’ represent their views, rather than actually wading through their policies.

Who do you vote for?
What are their policies?

Agree that's it is not unique to Reform voters. However, it would seem that this is more common of Reform supporters in my experience.

Unfortunately, there is not a political party out there that matches all my views, so I have to vote for the one that matches most closely. But this is the situation for most I would think. But I certainly do my research and make sure that I'm not voting for a party that would actively destroy the NHS and allow massive tax cuts that would result in even poorer public services. That means never voting Reform.

SquirrelMadness · 08/05/2026 20:38

Didn't Brexit voters tell us that they knew exactly what they were voting for and we need to listen to their well thought out opinions? Now people are starting to admit they don't bother researching a party's policies before voting, they just vote for whoever they'd like to go down the pub with. At least that's a bit more honest.

thedramaQueen · 08/05/2026 20:39

SquirrelMadness · 08/05/2026 20:38

Didn't Brexit voters tell us that they knew exactly what they were voting for and we need to listen to their well thought out opinions? Now people are starting to admit they don't bother researching a party's policies before voting, they just vote for whoever they'd like to go down the pub with. At least that's a bit more honest.

100% this!!

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