To explain what an immigration detention centre actually is

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AIBU to explain what an immigration detention centre is? We have a major political party stating that they want to build new detention centres in constituencies that vote for another party. But even they seem confused, if not intentionally misleading people. So I thought I'd save people a bit of Googling as there seems to be some serious misunderstanding. So below is a Google summary. Happy to be told I'm unreasonable for trying to educate people.

An immigration detention centre (or Immigration Removal Centre - IRC) is a secure facility where foreign nationals are held, often in prison-like conditions, while the government resolves their immigration status. These centres are used to detain asylum seekers, undocumented migrants, or those awaiting deportation.
Administrative Process:
Detention is not a criminal sentence ordered by a court, but an administrative decision often made by immigration authorities.
Purpose: Centers are primarily used for initial processing, establishing identity, or holding individuals for removal/deportation from the country.
Conditions: Despite not being prisons, many facilities are high-security with locked cells, limited contact with the outside world, and often managed by private companies.
Legal Standing: People detained often include asylum seekers and people whose visas have expired

What’s your point?

People who didn’t vote for mass immigration don’t want these facilities where they live. It’s quite simple.

Until they get into government that party won't be building anything anywhere. Everyone can relax, for the time being anyway.

I believe this goes against human rights. I would personally look at the centres/camps Trump has set up in the U.S. to see how it is working out for them. Check all news sources not just Fox News.
If this ever happens (which I hope it doesn’t) and I live in a Green run area, I welcome them and the new jobs they will create in my local area.

Reform actually think that the left won’t want the camps near their homes, but what they don’t realise is that we are not afraid like they are! It would be scary if you think anyone brown is a threat, but we don’t!

And how much much would it cost all the electorate to build those?

Seriously, there is no point trying to rationalise the bullshit Reform come out with, they’re fucking morons.

I agree with you, I’ve seen a video about it. Basically, places resembling concentration camps. We all know which party is proposing this idea: and yes, because those who vote for them don’t want these places in their back yards, they propose to build them in constituencies where they will not win.

it reminds me of those Covid centres, to house the “unclean” when they came back from abroad. Rwanda was somebody’s flagship scheme that went nowhere, this sounds like more of the same. Tell the masses what they want to hear.

It’s very easy for Reform to bang on about all the things they’ll do when in power. But the reality is, they’re never going to get in. They’re like the Lib Dem’s and Greens, they’re never going to actually have to try and put these policies into practice so they can make them as ridiculous as they like.

They had them for decades already?

I think the PP's have summed it up very well. Reform are basically stirring. Immigration is not the issue that they purport it to be, especially small boat crossings, which while they are concerning, are not a huge issue.

The current government have reduced net migration by 69%, and are processing irregular, and regular migration applicants, and asylum seekers at a greater rate than the previous government did and with a higher level of rejections.

They could probably get small boat crossings to zero and Farage would still be banging on about migration, and his blind followers would still buy in to the rhetoric.

My point was to tell people what an immigration detention centre was because I have noticed that many people don't know despite joining in debates about them. I think this might be because of the rhetoric of Reform. Is that something that you've also noticed?

Mass immigration would lead to fewer detention centres, not more.

Are those your own words? It reads a bit like ChatGPT.

As I said in the opening, I copied from Google. I couldn't explain it as well in my own words.

It’s just a bit strange to say you’re trying to “educate people”, when you yourself are not knowledgeable enough to write about them without using google.

People who are happy with mass immigration don’t want them either, because they don’t believe immigrants should be held in detention centres. They believe immigrants should be integrated with society. So if you get what you vote for, surely Green areas would just have immigrants integrated into their towns/villages?
Also if you get what you vote for, can I rejoin the EU?

There is one about ten miles from me, it's been there for about 25 years.

That doesn't make a lot of sense, to me. You want people to be deported and - presumably - detained until they are...but you're against detention centres?

If you were talking about temporary housing pending determination of eligibility, I'd understand the rationale.

I'm still not sure now Reform can get away with saying they will 'stop the small boats' like how? They can put a lid on legal migration, maybe by stating even skilled people can't come in but that is not in our interests. There are laws in place that make it legal to claim asylum so they can't suddenly change the law so the boats will keep coming.

Is the Reform "promise" (surely unenforceable) of not putting immigration detention centres in their own constituencies not a bit... petulant? We live in a society where we all try to do our bit to lift each other up along with ourselves - not step on others to improve our own lot. At least that's what I would like to think.

And yes please to rejoining the EU!

Childish, spiteful and straight out of the Trump playbook.

Great, so long as they're then deported.

There are laws in place that make it legal to claim asylum so they can't suddenly change the law so the boats will keep coming.
If this is true, and I have no knowledge that says it isn't, how do Poland refuse to accept asylum seekers? Or am I wrong about the Polish system? Apologies as I have no doubt that I am not as fully informed as I should be.

The majority aren't deported. This is because they have a legal right to stay (either a visa or asylum status).

I assume you would prefer that fewer people have a right to a visa?

I don’t know, I do see their point, if an area votes reform they clearly are not overly fond of asylum seekers whereas if you vote green you probably are. I guess you could suggest moving people to areas that vote greena and just let them roam freely until their status is dealt with if the objection is to the existence of detention centres. I would probably think a green voting area would be a bit more welcoming for migrants than perhaps a reform area.

I don’t see why some greens are up in arms about this tbh.

Well we could just move all the hmo’s into green voting areas then, given the greens tend to be quite keen on open borders and welcoming etc

Still not sure what your point is. Are you against the idea?

They won't be allowed to work though. My understanding is that they will be confined to the detention centre until they are deported.oh I'm editing because by new jobs, did you mean the new jobs the dention centre will bring?!!