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To explain what an immigration detention centre actually is

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ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 20:18

AIBU to explain what an immigration detention centre is? We have a major political party stating that they want to build new detention centres in constituencies that vote for another party. But even they seem confused, if not intentionally misleading people. So I thought I'd save people a bit of Googling as there seems to be some serious misunderstanding. So below is a Google summary. Happy to be told I'm unreasonable for trying to educate people.

An immigration detention centre (or Immigration Removal Centre - IRC) is a secure facility where foreign nationals are held, often in prison-like conditions, while the government resolves their immigration status. These centres are used to detain asylum seekers, undocumented migrants, or those awaiting deportation.
Administrative Process:
Detention is not a criminal sentence ordered by a court, but an administrative decision often made by immigration authorities.
Purpose: Centers are primarily used for initial processing, establishing identity, or holding individuals for removal/deportation from the country.
Conditions: Despite not being prisons, many facilities are high-security with locked cells, limited contact with the outside world, and often managed by private companies.
Legal Standing: People detained often include asylum seekers and people whose visas have expired

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CheeseyOnionPie · 05/05/2026 22:10

MaidOfSteel · 05/05/2026 21:34

You’ve got a bloody nerve thinking you have the right to ‘educate’ me and others. Just another do-gooder. You’ll end up pushing people in the opposite direction to what you espouse.

You seem quite easy to manipulate if that’s how this thread made you react.

EmeraldRoulette · 05/05/2026 22:10

@ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot I agree that there is some nonsense in what he said

But I do think that he meant detention centres, because they are big on having those. What did you think he meant?

HappiestSleeping · 05/05/2026 22:10

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:09

From things I've seen on here and in the media.

For example (BBC reporting):
Reform UK has also said it would not put detention centres in areas where its own party has an MP, or where it controls the council.
Yusuf said: "Given the Green Party advocate for open borders and for an infinite number of undocumented men to come here, we will prioritise Green constituencies and Green-controlled councils to locate these detention centres.
"This is the fairest approach to ensuring democratic consent for all aspects of our mass deportation programme."

That whole statement makes no sense if you actually know what a detention centre is.

I have also read two threads on here where people are completely unaware, although I don't want this to be a TAAT so I won't go into details.

I have also read two threads on here where people are completely unaware

Only two threads????? There are hundreds. The electorate appear to be unaware about the facts of quite a lot of things.

Dollymylove · 05/05/2026 22:11

@Plasticdreams you mean the human rights to roam around hanging around outside schools, intimidating women and girls, carrying out crimes including rape and murder. What abiut the himan rights of British citizens to feel safe going about their business?

Branwellgirl · 05/05/2026 22:12

We’ve all got Google love.

Rainbow1901 · 05/05/2026 22:13

I'm all for Immigration Detention Centres - albeit no-one would want one in their back yard. It is quite enough that they should be housed in camps, given three meals a day and somewhere warm, clean and dry to sleep. They do not need to given a phone, cash, medical care and whatever else it is deemed that these people deserve over and above the people of the UK.
They may have spent weeks in Europe camping in tents - IDCs would just be an extension of that while they are procressed. I'm not against them working for their keep either - bit of fruit picking etc in exchange for their temporary stay in an IDC - stop them from getting bored and causing problems in towns and cities where they have no idea of how to behave here and think it's okay to hassle the local population.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:14

EmeraldRoulette · 05/05/2026 22:10

@ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot I agree that there is some nonsense in what he said

But I do think that he meant detention centres, because they are big on having those. What did you think he meant?

Edited

I think he meant detention centres but was trying to insinuate that they are dangerous to people who live nearby. After all, why would they use them as a threat if they are safe?

I think that was the motive but I'm not completely sure. As ever, it's hard to know the difference between malice and incompetence.

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Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 22:15

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 20:26

I believe this goes against human rights. I would personally look at the centres/camps Trump has set up in the U.S. to see how it is working out for them. Check all news sources not just Fox News.
If this ever happens (which I hope it doesn’t) and I live in a Green run area, I welcome them and the new jobs they will create in my local area.

Reform actually think that the left won’t want the camps near their homes, but what they don’t realise is that we are not afraid like they are! It would be scary if you think anyone brown is a threat, but we don’t!

Australia have them don't they

EmeraldRoulette · 05/05/2026 22:16

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:14

I think he meant detention centres but was trying to insinuate that they are dangerous to people who live nearby. After all, why would they use them as a threat if they are safe?

I think that was the motive but I'm not completely sure. As ever, it's hard to know the difference between malice and incompetence.

I agree

But from that, I don't understand why you felt the need to tell people what a detention centre was. We know the difference between a detention centre and a hotel.

The detention centres would quickly be surrounded by people protesting so maybe there is method in his madness....

Bluegreenbird · 05/05/2026 22:16

I’m quite happy that anyone who arrives undocumented is detained. It’s the basics of border control. Would remove the incentive for the boat people and make eventual removal much easier.
The asylum game is a racket. An unsustainable racket.

Dollymylove · 05/05/2026 22:18

Crunched · 05/05/2026 20:53

There are laws in place that make it legal to claim asylum so they can't suddenly change the law so the boats will keep coming.
If this is true, and I have no knowledge that says it isn't, how do Poland refuse to accept asylum seekers? Or am I wrong about the Polish system? Apologies as I have no doubt that I am not as fully informed as I should be.

The Polish government out their citizens rights above the rights of undocumented men whom we know nothing about, living in their communities.
We dont want them here either and the political party that does something about it it the one that a bif proportion of the electorate will vote for.

EmeraldRoulette · 05/05/2026 22:19

@ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot actually I've just realised this was your weird way of starting conversation about it

So all I will say is, I have lived near one of the hotels and it was not a good experience. A properly run detention centre should be better for locals as we wouldn't really have to worry about it ... apart from the bus load of annoying protesters every weekend.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:20

Bluegreenbird · 05/05/2026 22:16

I’m quite happy that anyone who arrives undocumented is detained. It’s the basics of border control. Would remove the incentive for the boat people and make eventual removal much easier.
The asylum game is a racket. An unsustainable racket.

People who arrive on illegal boats are already detained. It doesn't appear to remove the incentive because they keep arriving on boats.

What do you mean by "the asylum game is a racket"?

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Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 22:21

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:20

People who arrive on illegal boats are already detained. It doesn't appear to remove the incentive because they keep arriving on boats.

What do you mean by "the asylum game is a racket"?

Where are they detained?

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 22:22

Dollymylove · 05/05/2026 22:11

@Plasticdreams you mean the human rights to roam around hanging around outside schools, intimidating women and girls, carrying out crimes including rape and murder. What abiut the himan rights of British citizens to feel safe going about their business?

Has this happened to you or anyone you know ? Or have you just read about it in your racist Facebook groups?

statistically, white men in this country and not surprisingly, a high number seem to support reform and restore, are more of a danger to women and children. ‘save are wimmin’ 😂

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 22:23

Swiftie1878 · 05/05/2026 21:22

Interesting! Maybe it’s a good policy then? Everyone would be happy?

Except for the breach of human rights of course.

EmeraldRoulette · 05/05/2026 22:24

@ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot "What do you mean by "the asylum game is a racket"?"

on the off chance that that's a real question

Just ask Google who makes money out of asylum seekers. There's a huge amount of money being made.

Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 22:25

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 22:23

Except for the breach of human rights of course.

What's against " human rights" being kept somewhere safe warm somewhere to sleep and fed?

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:26

Just responding to both of your posts.

It was a way of starting a conversation (and fine if you think it's weird!), but only with people who know what a immigration detention centre is. I was trying to post on another thread but becoming tired of people who were just repeating things that made no sense, about people in detention hanging around on street corners and leering after young girls.

What was poor about living near the detention centre? Not just the protestors I assume from the way you wrote that...

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IdaGlossop · 05/05/2026 22:29

Rainbow1901 · 05/05/2026 22:13

I'm all for Immigration Detention Centres - albeit no-one would want one in their back yard. It is quite enough that they should be housed in camps, given three meals a day and somewhere warm, clean and dry to sleep. They do not need to given a phone, cash, medical care and whatever else it is deemed that these people deserve over and above the people of the UK.
They may have spent weeks in Europe camping in tents - IDCs would just be an extension of that while they are procressed. I'm not against them working for their keep either - bit of fruit picking etc in exchange for their temporary stay in an IDC - stop them from getting bored and causing problems in towns and cities where they have no idea of how to behave here and think it's okay to hassle the local population.

Your use of 'they' is rather revealing.

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 22:31

MaidOfSteel · 05/05/2026 21:34

You’ve got a bloody nerve thinking you have the right to ‘educate’ me and others. Just another do-gooder. You’ll end up pushing people in the opposite direction to what you espouse.

it doesn’t sound like you need a lot of encouragement.

Blahblahblahabla · 05/05/2026 22:33

Did you not see the camp next to the deputy Green Party leaders house. They weren’t very happy about.

It was an open camp so not detainment.

The cadet group next door had to be cancelled because the gov risk assessed as not safe for them to continue meeting. That begs a question doesn’t it. If a group of highly trained ex army personnel can’t keep a group of teens safe then what chance does a lone female adult or child have.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 05/05/2026 22:36

Thechaseison71 · 05/05/2026 22:21

Where are they detained?

In immigration detention centres.

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Castellio · 05/05/2026 22:38

I can’t see a problem with detaining undocumented migrants until they either produce a passport or their home state verifies they are who they say they are. Then we check for criminal records, hear their asylum claim and decide whether they have a right to remain in the UK until their country is safe enough to return to.

if you wanted a successful migrant scheme look to Denmark. If you gain asylum you are expected to integrate fully, and are only given temporary residence with the expectation that you’ll return when safe. Seems reasonable.

Dollymylove · 05/05/2026 22:39

Plasticdreams · 05/05/2026 22:22

Has this happened to you or anyone you know ? Or have you just read about it in your racist Facebook groups?

statistically, white men in this country and not surprisingly, a high number seem to support reform and restore, are more of a danger to women and children. ‘save are wimmin’ 😂

No its been well documented. Nothing to do with "white men saving are wimmen"
We cant deport them when they commit crimes, as much as we would like to.
But we can deport those illegals who commit crimes. Unfortunately there is a raft of human rights lawyers, paid for by the taxpaying mugs of the UK, who move heaven and earth to stop them being kicked out

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