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22:30 work call - completely unacceptable?

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shortbreadconsumer · 05/05/2026 11:21

I received a work call from someone in my organisation at 22:30 last night. I answered, thinking it was an emergency. The colleague was completely hysterical and impossible to understand. In the end I had no choice but to end the call with 'we can discuss this in the morning.'

This morning I spoke to the persons line manager about it, who said that it was 'unfortunate, but not unreasonable' for this individual to have called me as I had not answered any emails from said colleague over the weekend. They had sent me over 50 emails this weekend. I did not see the emails as seniors within the organisation take an 'if it's urgent, they have my number' approach.

I am more senior than both of of these colleagues and I was 'on call' all weekend as the most senior point of contact in the organisation. However, this was not an issue that required weekend working and, more importantly, it was not an issue that I needed to be consulted on. It was very simple and should have easily been resolved in working hours by this individual alone - her direct line manager would not have needed to input either.

AIBU to think that this was unprofessional and unacceptable from both of them?After no sleep, I've reached that 'was it really that bad' point where I am so sleep deprived that I am not sure whether I am overreacting in my annoyance or not!

OP posts:
godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:02

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 06/05/2026 17:38

It's truly astonishing how many people on this thread think they know better than the OP and her HR department about what exactly her duties should entail when she is on call.

I can't tell whether this is down to poor reading comprehension (or people just not bothering to read the thread at all); people making incorrect assumptions about the OP's on call duties because of other completely different on call duties for other companies with which they are more familiar; or simply dismissing the OP's actual duties because they personally feel that, regardless of official on call protocols, all senior managers should make themselves available at all times of day and night in case an employee happens to have a mental health crisis outside of their normal working hours!

or all of the above :)

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:03

NoisyViewer · 06/05/2026 18:00

But she emailed 50 times. How the hell is she to know that you don’t read them when the specific instructions on contacts provide the email address. Are you sure it wasn’t you not following protocol. If you had then maybe I suggest you ask the person sending this email to not include email addresses. Confusing as hell and getting radio silence from an email may have escalated that employers state of mind.

Edited

yeah but NOT the OP's email address

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:05

BuildbyNumbere · 06/05/2026 18:00

You are the manager in call … you are there to support, not decide it’s not worth your time and ignore them!! How unprofessional and poor managerial behaviour. Maybe you should be reported for not doing your job! And sleep deprived, by a call at 22.50?!? Seriously???

FFS RTFT

Cocktailglass · 06/05/2026 18:06

Why didn't you check your e mails if you were on call? It sounds like the colleague was desperately trying to avoid ringing and finding other ways because you didn't respond so got to a point of sheer frustration 😕 For them to do this in a state of panic indicates they were stressed and not already in bed blissfully ignorant of being needed.

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:07

NoisyViewer · 06/05/2026 18:00

But she emailed 50 times. How the hell is she to know that you don’t read them when the specific instructions on contacts provide the email address. Are you sure it wasn’t you not following protocol. If you had then maybe I suggest you ask the person sending this email to not include email addresses. Confusing as hell and getting radio silence from an email may have escalated that employers state of mind.

Edited

No she didn’t use the on call contact manager’s email at all, she used OP ‘s email, who was only meant to be contacted by phone call by the on call manager if it was an emergency that they couldn’t handle alone!

Blondeshavemorefun · 06/05/2026 18:07

Gwenhwyfar · 06/05/2026 17:30

What point are you disagreeing with?
OP is not supposed to be checking emails, that's what I meant by 'the on-call person'. She's supposed to take a call from the email person who will call her in an emergency. The one who called her was not the email person, but another colleague who should not have been working on the weekend.
It's clear with all the updates, although it wasn't from the OP alone.

Ah. I took it that you meant the on call junior wasn’t meant to be checking emails

equally if the junior didn’t ring op - I would almost say why answer a number you don’t know late at night

as junior didn’t contact op to say a lady is going to call you

Megifer · 06/05/2026 18:07

NoisyViewer · 06/05/2026 18:00

But she emailed 50 times. How the hell is she to know that you don’t read them when the specific instructions on contacts provide the email address. Are you sure it wasn’t you not following protocol. If you had then maybe I suggest you ask the person sending this email to not include email addresses. Confusing as hell and getting radio silence from an email may have escalated that employers state of mind.

Edited

Can't believe you actually quoted the post that explains the process very clearly and still got it wrong 😂😂😂

Bookaholicwithwine · 06/05/2026 18:07

shortbreadconsumer · 05/05/2026 11:21

I received a work call from someone in my organisation at 22:30 last night. I answered, thinking it was an emergency. The colleague was completely hysterical and impossible to understand. In the end I had no choice but to end the call with 'we can discuss this in the morning.'

This morning I spoke to the persons line manager about it, who said that it was 'unfortunate, but not unreasonable' for this individual to have called me as I had not answered any emails from said colleague over the weekend. They had sent me over 50 emails this weekend. I did not see the emails as seniors within the organisation take an 'if it's urgent, they have my number' approach.

I am more senior than both of of these colleagues and I was 'on call' all weekend as the most senior point of contact in the organisation. However, this was not an issue that required weekend working and, more importantly, it was not an issue that I needed to be consulted on. It was very simple and should have easily been resolved in working hours by this individual alone - her direct line manager would not have needed to input either.

AIBU to think that this was unprofessional and unacceptable from both of them?After no sleep, I've reached that 'was it really that bad' point where I am so sleep deprived that I am not sure whether I am overreacting in my annoyance or not!

I think the line of work you’re in would help ? I work in healthcare and the manager on call needs to be available 24 hours a day- and they are paid to be . I’ve seen managers needing to be called even just for clarification or to get their ok to follow a plan in the middle of night . In worse situations those on call have come into work in the middle of night to help as they are on call and being paid to provide help and support . Without knowing what work you’re in it’s more difficult to know . If you were in my line of work you would definitely be TA

Barkybarkynutnut · 06/05/2026 18:08

You sound as cold as ice….

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:08

Cocktailglass · 06/05/2026 18:06

Why didn't you check your e mails if you were on call? It sounds like the colleague was desperately trying to avoid ringing and finding other ways because you didn't respond so got to a point of sheer frustration 😕 For them to do this in a state of panic indicates they were stressed and not already in bed blissfully ignorant of being needed.

Then she should have contacted the manager listed as on call and not the OP who wouldn’t have been expecting a contact

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:09

Cocktailglass · 06/05/2026 18:06

Why didn't you check your e mails if you were on call? It sounds like the colleague was desperately trying to avoid ringing and finding other ways because you didn't respond so got to a point of sheer frustration 😕 For them to do this in a state of panic indicates they were stressed and not already in bed blissfully ignorant of being needed.

FFS RTFT

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:10

Bookaholicwithwine · 06/05/2026 18:07

I think the line of work you’re in would help ? I work in healthcare and the manager on call needs to be available 24 hours a day- and they are paid to be . I’ve seen managers needing to be called even just for clarification or to get their ok to follow a plan in the middle of night . In worse situations those on call have come into work in the middle of night to help as they are on call and being paid to provide help and support . Without knowing what work you’re in it’s more difficult to know . If you were in my line of work you would definitely be TA

FFS RTFT

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:10

Megifer · 06/05/2026 18:07

Can't believe you actually quoted the post that explains the process very clearly and still got it wrong 😂😂😂

I KNOW … I’m getting so invested in this just because people a twisting themselves into a pretzel just to try to find OP in the wrong in some way, even calling her cold when she spent 50 minutes with a distressed colleague she wasn’t expecting late at night 🤷‍♀️

ouro66 · 06/05/2026 18:11

I once went on a training course during which our Latin American operative argued with me that he was right, and knew the (technical) repair procedure, and I was wrong for saying he was doing it incorrectly. A couple of months later he called me at 0300 from a different hemisphere asking me to talk him through the same machinery repair. 'Jose, it is the middle of the night here.' etc.

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:12

Did you know the Latino for "Jose fuck off"?

Bookaholicwithwine · 06/05/2026 18:13

godmum56 · 06/05/2026 18:10

FFS RTFT

Sorry I don’t know what that mean but also apologies as I didn’t mean to quote you but the OP

AlpacaBag · 06/05/2026 18:13

You sound like a robot, not a human being. "Procedure" isn't the be all and end all OP, have a little empathy/compassion

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:13

Bookaholicwithwine · 06/05/2026 18:07

I think the line of work you’re in would help ? I work in healthcare and the manager on call needs to be available 24 hours a day- and they are paid to be . I’ve seen managers needing to be called even just for clarification or to get their ok to follow a plan in the middle of night . In worse situations those on call have come into work in the middle of night to help as they are on call and being paid to provide help and support . Without knowing what work you’re in it’s more difficult to know . If you were in my line of work you would definitely be TA

Yes RTFT, there literally WAS a person paid to be on call and everyone got an email with their details on the Friday but this person chose to contact someone else instead, the OP, who obviously did not know!

Cancel the cheque ffs 🤦‍♀️

Winniepoobear · 06/05/2026 18:14

Your ON CALL .. that means ... u TAKE CALLS .. thats what on call means.

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:15

AlpacaBag · 06/05/2026 18:13

You sound like a robot, not a human being. "Procedure" isn't the be all and end all OP, have a little empathy/compassion

Of course not but she completely waived company procedure to spend a long time at night with this person to try to help 🤦‍♀️

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:15

Winniepoobear · 06/05/2026 18:14

Your ON CALL .. that means ... u TAKE CALLS .. thats what on call means.

Some people are on the wind up now

Bookaholicwithwine · 06/05/2026 18:16

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:13

Yes RTFT, there literally WAS a person paid to be on call and everyone got an email with their details on the Friday but this person chose to contact someone else instead, the OP, who obviously did not know!

Cancel the cheque ffs 🤦‍♀️

Yes the OP says they were on call ? They called someone else because the OP hadn’t responded to emails . Which I think they should have been doing . But I clarified by saying it does really depend on what line of work she’s in

AlpacaBag · 06/05/2026 18:17

Moodibags · 06/05/2026 18:15

Of course not but she completely waived company procedure to spend a long time at night with this person to try to help 🤦‍♀️

I think I just got annoyed because of how often the word "procedure" was mentioned 😂

PoddleOn · 06/05/2026 18:17

If you were meant to be contactable, then you should have been.

However, I completely loathe the modern expectation of everyone being available 24/7.

If you don’t want to work like that, it’s totally understandable but you need to be clear about your boundaries and ensure your role and your employer are aware of and can accommodate those boundaries.
If it’s not something your current role can accommodate, then maybe you should look for something else.

loislovesstewie · 06/05/2026 18:17

NoisyViewer · 06/05/2026 18:00

But she emailed 50 times. How the hell is she to know that you don’t read them when the specific instructions on contacts provide the email address. Are you sure it wasn’t you not following protocol. If you had then maybe I suggest you ask the person sending this email to not include email addresses. Confusing as hell and getting radio silence from an email may have escalated that employers state of mind.

Edited

Because it doesn't tell people to contact the OP. It tells people to contact a more junior person who triages the emails. THE OP IS ONLY GOING TO BE CALLED IN EXTREME CIRCUMSTANCES, by the person doing the triage.
I really don't understand why posters don't understand the system.
When I had to be on call my phone number wasn't given out. Calls went to a call centre and they contacted me. That's often the process.

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