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Absolutely zero talk from corporate about the terrorist attacks against Jewish people

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seasmussealife1 · 02/05/2026 22:52

We have an awareness calendar at work. Mundane stuff but also Eid/Easter. I live in Manchester so it would be very hard not to know it's Easter.

Also no other religions are on the awareness calendar.

However zero talk about the terrorist attacks and no saying "if you need support talk to manager, hr or employee assistance" etc.

Zero.

It's also social housing.

Aibu that we are all ignoring the terrorism against Jews

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notimagain · 03/05/2026 09:49

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 09:37

Murdering British Jews for being Jews is not politics. It’s racist crime.

I'm fully aware of that but that still doesn't mean companies should have to start offering up some form of in house special event or start running support sessions as a result.

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 09:53

notimagain · 03/05/2026 09:49

I'm fully aware of that but that still doesn't mean companies should have to start offering up some form of in house special event or start running support sessions as a result.

It does mean that recognizing a British ethnic minority are suffering appalling racist persecution and murders is a decent thing to do. Be honest, would you feel safe being Jewish in Britain today? Do you have any idea of the scale and severity of harassment and racism Jews are subjected to?

Have you spoken to many Jews about how they are feeling? The Jews I know are absolutely distraught, and a lot of that distress comes from no one recognizing what they are going through or standing beside them.

Attictroll · 03/05/2026 09:55

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 09:36

Antisemitism is not justified in any way but the elephant in the room that no one talks about is that a lot of this is triggered by Israel’s actions

What you are saying here is ‘anti-Semitism is not justified, but when British people who are Jews are subject to racist attacks for being Jewish, we should not stand with them, because I see Jews, uniquely among ethnicities, as being collectively responsible for the actions of any Jew. Obviously, I didn’t feel like this during the Islamophobia arising from the Islamic state inspired terror attacks, that was just wrong and I did think it was right to stand beside British Muslims, but it’s different for Jews isn’t it?’

I am not saying that I am saying antisemitism has risen because people are angry with Israel and some people can’t separate the two and the separation of the two is never fully articulated. My work ended up in a mess politically when in supporting a charity for victims of anti semitism it gave money to Israel the week after someone’s aunt had been killed by Israel in Gaza - it’s all a f*ing mess

BollyMolly · 03/05/2026 10:02

hazelnutvanillalatte · 03/05/2026 09:03

What other country is expected to provide aid to a hostile attacker? What other country sends evacuation warnings to civilians? Comments like
yours are meaningless and just show that Israel is held to an entirely different standard than any other country.

Other countries aren’t perpetuating a genocide, ethnic cleansing or continually committing war crimes though.

Falloffthebonemeat · 03/05/2026 10:03

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Bubblesoffun · 03/05/2026 10:06

hazelnutvanillalatte · 03/05/2026 09:03

What other country is expected to provide aid to a hostile attacker? What other country sends evacuation warnings to civilians? Comments like
yours are meaningless and just show that Israel is held to an entirely different standard than any other country.

“Hostile Attacker?” Israel is literally taking over the west bank with illegal settlements.

GladEagle · 03/05/2026 10:06

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If you can’t see how writing this is antisemitic there is no helping you

Falloffthebonemeat · 03/05/2026 10:10

GladEagle · 03/05/2026 10:06

If you can’t see how writing this is antisemitic there is no helping you

How? Which part of my post is untrue?

BollyMolly · 03/05/2026 10:12

GladEagle · 03/05/2026 10:06

If you can’t see how writing this is antisemitic there is no helping you

There is nothing wrong with the questions asked in this post.

Where’s the harm in answering?

Skinnysaluki · 03/05/2026 10:14

seasmussealife1 · 02/05/2026 23:08

Wtf. No it's Jewish holidays. Absoluteky no recogination

Well email head office and hr and point out that these need to be and should have been added. I’m not sure what mumsnetters can do really

Periperi2025 · 03/05/2026 10:17

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 09:53

It does mean that recognizing a British ethnic minority are suffering appalling racist persecution and murders is a decent thing to do. Be honest, would you feel safe being Jewish in Britain today? Do you have any idea of the scale and severity of harassment and racism Jews are subjected to?

Have you spoken to many Jews about how they are feeling? The Jews I know are absolutely distraught, and a lot of that distress comes from no one recognizing what they are going through or standing beside them.

We already have the equality act which is followed in work places. This recognises both race and religion as protected characteristics, we don't need to be placing one religion or race above another, because that wouldn't be equality, would it now.

People can read the news and form their own opinions, trying to ram things down people's throats does nothing to help anyone.

Just go to work and do your job and keep your politics and religion out of it, and if your colleagues are incapable of this report them to their line manager or HR.

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 10:24

Attictroll · 03/05/2026 09:55

I am not saying that I am saying antisemitism has risen because people are angry with Israel and some people can’t separate the two and the separation of the two is never fully articulated. My work ended up in a mess politically when in supporting a charity for victims of anti semitism it gave money to Israel the week after someone’s aunt had been killed by Israel in Gaza - it’s all a f*ing mess

Anti-Semitism has risen because of racism against Jews. It really is that simple. If someone is racist against Jews because of Israel, that is racism.

Btw, discrimination against someone due to their nationality also comes under the protected characteristic of race under our Equality laws.

RonaldMcDonaldTrump · 03/05/2026 10:36

People conflate Jews with Israel because if anybody dares criticise the government of Israel for their actions, they are labelled Anti Semitic.
Every man and his dog is allowed to label the Iranian or Taliban regime as murderous or tyrants (which is true by the way) but any person who does so isn't automatically called an Islamaphobe. Why is the Israeli government exempt from criticism and why is the anti Semitic label instantly thrown out to shut down criticism of them?

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 10:45

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You are having to lie and distort to make your case, which is a key clue to the fact that it’s based in prejudice. Here are responses to some of your lies and distortions:
1). You are ignoring ( and it’s already been pointed out to you on this thread) that when the raising of the security threat was made, the official announcement made it clear that it was based on intelligence other than the Golders green attack. There have already been many attacks on Jews prevented by intelligence work. It hardly takes a genius to work out that other attacks are very likely planned and the intelligence services are aware of this and acting to prevent it.
2) you are presenting the Golders green attack as an isolated attack when actually it’s part of pattern of violent and escalating attacks against Jews both in Britain and the western world.
3) You ask what other community gets this level of concern. I’ll put that back on you. You show me a community that has had a comparable level of planned and actualised violent assaults over this sort of concentrated period, and only then will you be in position to make your allegation of Jewish privilege. I’ll remind you that the foiled Manchester attack was stated by the police to have been expected to be the largest terrorist massacre this country has seen, if it had not been prevented by intelligence work.
4). The government and media did not fail to report on three victims, there have been links on other threads where people make the claim you are here which evidence that. The attempted murder of Jews was significant due to the pattern of recent violent attacks. That’s interesting in news terms. Yes he is mentally ill, but the focus of people’s mental illness is formed by culture. For example, the rise of reality TV shows led to a spate of people’s mental health episodes leading them to believe they were being followed by camera crews filming them for a reality show. In this case, this man walked for over two hours to the Jewish area of London and stabbed a visibly Jewish man in a kippah. He was not killing randomly, he clearly targeted Jews due to the current rise in Jewish hatred in our culture. He would not have targeted Jews if it weren’t for this anti-Semitism. It’s absurd to try to pretend this is not the case.

So yes. all of this desperation in your argument to minimize, lie and distort does reveal a deep anti-Semitism. Only modern day anti-Semites are so desperate to deny Jews are being made victims.

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 10:49

Periperi2025 · 03/05/2026 10:17

We already have the equality act which is followed in work places. This recognises both race and religion as protected characteristics, we don't need to be placing one religion or race above another, because that wouldn't be equality, would it now.

People can read the news and form their own opinions, trying to ram things down people's throats does nothing to help anyone.

Just go to work and do your job and keep your politics and religion out of it, and if your colleagues are incapable of this report them to their line manager or HR.

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It isn’t placing one religion above another to recognize Jews are being subject to racist terror. And racist murder is not politics. Recognizing the trauma Jews are facing due to what is happening to them in this country is just human decency and good citizenship.

The fact that you think like this is part of the problem

Thefastandthecurious5 · 03/05/2026 11:08

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Maybe you haven’t noticed, but the stabbing of the two Jewish men is part of a wider recent pattern of antisemitic incidents since late last year like London synagogues being fire-bombed, ambulances belonging to a Jewish organisation being destroyed and two Manchester synagogue worshippers being murdered: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_London_antisemitic_attacks.

It’s entirely right for the national security level to be raised and a Cobra meeting to be raised.

Where is your evidence that these actions have cost the taxpayer millions? And why do you object to your taxes being paid on this - as you can’t choose what your taxes are paid for, anyway?

2026 London antisemitic attacks - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_London_antisemitic_attacks

MrThorpeHazell · 03/05/2026 11:09

I have read your posts (all of them) three times now OP and I can honestly say I have NO idea what your issue is?

Thefastandthecurious5 · 03/05/2026 11:11

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Erm. This attack is antisemitic because the attacker stabbed two Jewish men. Do you get it now?

BollyMolly · 03/05/2026 11:15

Thefastandthecurious5 · 03/05/2026 11:11

Erm. This attack is antisemitic because the attacker stabbed two Jewish men. Do you get it now?

By that logic it is also Islamophobic because the attacker also attacked a Muslim man.

Where is the outcry asking for people to stand with the Muslim
community?

There has been and continues to be plenty of media coverage of this attack as antisemitism, when really it’s a story about the lack of mental health support in this country.

Martymcfly24 · 03/05/2026 11:15

RonaldMcDonaldTrump · 03/05/2026 10:36

People conflate Jews with Israel because if anybody dares criticise the government of Israel for their actions, they are labelled Anti Semitic.
Every man and his dog is allowed to label the Iranian or Taliban regime as murderous or tyrants (which is true by the way) but any person who does so isn't automatically called an Islamaphobe. Why is the Israeli government exempt from criticism and why is the anti Semitic label instantly thrown out to shut down criticism of them?

There were multiple Israeli flags flown by the protesters in Golders Green at the weekend which conflates the two in peoples minds .

Attictroll · 03/05/2026 11:17

Ohjailer · 03/05/2026 10:24

Anti-Semitism has risen because of racism against Jews. It really is that simple. If someone is racist against Jews because of Israel, that is racism.

Btw, discrimination against someone due to their nationality also comes under the protected characteristic of race under our Equality laws.

I agree racism against Jews has increased but no one, including you, seems to not be able to fully delve into the link to Israel. Tbh even my 11 year old when hearing on the radio news about the Golders Green attacks asked if it was caused by the Iran war. Unless there is an open conversation about the inter relationship -antisemitism here will not be taken seriously imho because people are filling in the gaps. I know there is horrible violence on both sides So on one hand the media seems to say being pro Palestine makes you anti all Jews rather than anti Israel whose behaviour is awful at the moment. Whereas no one is allowed to suggest the relationship the other way round. Can people be anti Israel and not anti Jew apparently not according to the media at least but not my Jewish friends ? So why should it be linked one way and not the other? It confusing nonsense with so many atrocities and lives being lost. Tbh this would probably be easier explained as a Venn diagram. I fear hate crimes in the uk will not end until people find a way to communicate better the issues and differences.

sunnydisaster · 03/05/2026 11:21

All major religious holidays should be on a work calendar, as they are in random diaries.
I get annoyed when something is planned over Jewish new year or Yom Kippur as there hasn’t been awareness of the dates.
if there are meetings re Palestine then there should be equivalents, although imho this level of discussion shouldn’t be in the workplace either.
Everyone should have equal right in every workplace, the top brass need to be mindful of all religious holidays, but that’s it, unless a local atrocity has been committed be it against Jews, Muslims or any other group.

sunnydisaster · 03/05/2026 11:22

BollyMolly · 03/05/2026 11:15

By that logic it is also Islamophobic because the attacker also attacked a Muslim man.

Where is the outcry asking for people to stand with the Muslim
community?

There has been and continues to be plenty of media coverage of this attack as antisemitism, when really it’s a story about the lack of mental health support in this country.

No it isn’t, he deliberately targeted Jewish people in a heavily Jewish area.Your ignorance shows no bounds.

Thefastandthecurious5 · 03/05/2026 11:23

BollyMolly · 03/05/2026 11:15

By that logic it is also Islamophobic because the attacker also attacked a Muslim man.

Where is the outcry asking for people to stand with the Muslim
community?

There has been and continues to be plenty of media coverage of this attack as antisemitism, when really it’s a story about the lack of mental health support in this country.

We don’t know for sure if his friend was Muslim. Also, he attacked his friend because he was known to him, not specifically because he was Muslim.

However, we have proof that he also wanted to attack ‘visibly Jewish’ people and he then attacked two Jewish men. So we have proof he is antisemitic. Does that make sense?

DugnuttEyeBoogies · 03/05/2026 11:26

RonaldMcDonaldTrump · 03/05/2026 10:36

People conflate Jews with Israel because if anybody dares criticise the government of Israel for their actions, they are labelled Anti Semitic.
Every man and his dog is allowed to label the Iranian or Taliban regime as murderous or tyrants (which is true by the way) but any person who does so isn't automatically called an Islamaphobe. Why is the Israeli government exempt from criticism and why is the anti Semitic label instantly thrown out to shut down criticism of them?

Yeah this is what is pissing a lot of people off. Criticise the unhinged antics of Netanyahu and his government and you’re called anti-Semitic.

WTF? Why should they get a pass to commit genocide but every other nation would be called to account? We know Israel has relied on the power of the relationship
with the US to get away with it for years. Just scream “you can’t say that, that’s anti-Semitic” and carry on bombing innocent children.