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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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EricTheHalfASleeve · 02/05/2026 13:51

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 13:43

Are you saying that the attack of a Muslim man by another Muslim man who had had a relationship/friendship for 20 odd years was an islamaphobic attack?

Where are you getting your information about the religion of the attacker from? All I can find in the media is that he was of Somalia origin and arrived in the UK in the 1990s. That doesn't automatically mean he was Muslim.

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 13:51

The more I see these deeply anti-Semitic posts on threads like these, the more I wonder how many such posters should really be referred to Prevent. It's extremely worrying these extremists live amongst us, posting their twisted hatred and pushing their false narratives on parenting forums, fgs.

ThesebeautifulthingsthatIvegot · 02/05/2026 13:51

tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

YABU because your post is incorrect.

A third person was not stabbed in the attack.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 13:51

nomas · 02/05/2026 12:32

This is man who also attacked police men and stabbed police dog/s.

He should have been in a psychiatric hospital.

He was and was deemed well enough to be released.
Whether he was well enough or not will come out in time, but it is entirely possible that he was well enough but still so hate filled that he committed a terrorist attack.
I will ask you the same question I did on the last thread where you defended the terrorist and hope you answer this time.
Why are you so determined to defend a dangerous terrorist and minimise his actions?

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 13:51

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 13:47

I'm sure you've watched "The Nazis, A Warning from History". It struck me how many of the interviewees thought that maybe the Nazis weren't too bad, or that Jews had gone "too far". They dominated professions, they were too successful. The conspiracy theories and minimising were still apparent, all those years on.
I feel like I'm in the middle of that now, so god knows what it's like for Jewish people.

I can only imagine it's utterly fucking terrifying. I know a lot of Jews have taken the Mezuzah from their doors, stopped wearing kippah in public, taken their kids out of mixed schools, paid for fences and security guards around their synagogues, and in many cases are talking seriously about leaving the UK altogether because it's no longer safe to be Jewish here.

RafaistheKingofClay · 02/05/2026 13:52

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 13:16

What exactly are you saying?
The figures for hate crimes against Jews are only this high.... because they report them?

Presumably the problem is the reporting not the people attacking Jewish people for being Jewish…

Honestly this thread has been embarrassing. It’s a bit surprising it ur still up.

LizzieSiddal · 02/05/2026 13:52

lornad00m · 02/05/2026 13:49

It makes me sick to my stomach.

As does this whole post.

Antisemitism wrapped in a cloak of 'whataboutism'.

I just want to repost this as it’s 100% true.

KeepPumping · 02/05/2026 13:52

Alsop · 02/05/2026 10:02

one is a domestic/personal incident at his home and one was a terrorist attack, obviously both by the same person and awful but it’s obvious why the second is mentioned in the tweet as that’s the one related to the counter terrorism police investigation mentioned.

The other person being meticulously not mentioned was called out on SKY news earlier. They seem to be meticulously not mentioning Iran either, although it is by far the biggest thing affecting how we live (oil and debt) at the moment. Just watch real world events, not the "news" about carefully chosen events.

AngryHerring · 02/05/2026 13:53

question to OP: are you bending yourself in knots to deny that the 2 Jewish men were stabbed purely because of that for some particular reason?

Ginorchoc · 02/05/2026 13:53

But they do put a statement out ?

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 13:54

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 13:51

The more I see these deeply anti-Semitic posts on threads like these, the more I wonder how many such posters should really be referred to Prevent. It's extremely worrying these extremists live amongst us, posting their twisted hatred and pushing their false narratives on parenting forums, fgs.

I don't think Prevent is remotely fit for purpose. Apparently this racist scumbag had been referred to Prevent previously, as had the shit stain on humanity who murdered the little girls in Southport.

But otherwise, I do actually agree with you. Terrifying to see open anti-semitism on these threads.

nomas · 02/05/2026 13:54

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 13:50

The term was domestic/personal. Your position was that it couldn’t be that type of attack as the person involved had ‘travelled’. If you’re rowing back from that then great.

Rowed back from what? I’ve always said dismissing it as a domestic dispute is minimising.

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 13:54

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 13:51

I can only imagine it's utterly fucking terrifying. I know a lot of Jews have taken the Mezuzah from their doors, stopped wearing kippah in public, taken their kids out of mixed schools, paid for fences and security guards around their synagogues, and in many cases are talking seriously about leaving the UK altogether because it's no longer safe to be Jewish here.

It makes me so angry. That's not acceptable and I'm glad people are speaking up and speaking out. I'm glad the govt is giving extra funds to the Met.
I have donated to Hatzola, and also to the CST. These volunteers are brave people. They value life.

inamarina · 02/05/2026 13:55

Vintique · 02/05/2026 10:56

Let us beware of posters who try to make hay out of this horrible incident to whip up tension and resentment. There seem to be a few on this thread who are strangely ignorant of the facts but insistent making very emotive statements based on half truths or complete untruths (‘someone has died and the media and govt are trying to cover it up because they are not Jewish…’). Whether they are caught up in hype of online conspiracy theory bubbles, or are intentionally stoking resentment and misinformation, who knows. Thank goodness for the Mumsnet posters who patiently explain the facts, over and over….

Yes, it’s like that other poster on a different thread yesterday who kept claiming Hatzalah had received free ambulances from the NHS (conveniently failing to mention that these were a loan after Hatzalah’s own ambulances had been set on fire in an antisemitic attack).

nomas · 02/05/2026 13:56

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 13:51

He was and was deemed well enough to be released.
Whether he was well enough or not will come out in time, but it is entirely possible that he was well enough but still so hate filled that he committed a terrorist attack.
I will ask you the same question I did on the last thread where you defended the terrorist and hope you answer this time.
Why are you so determined to defend a dangerous terrorist and minimise his actions?

I have never defended him. Can you quote where I have?

neveragainforreal · 02/05/2026 13:57

AmberSpy · 02/05/2026 11:10

As a member of the general public, I'm more than happy for public resources to be used if it makes my Jewish friends and neighbours safer and more secure. I don't want to live in a country where anyone of any minority has to fear for their lives when they step outside or go to worship.

This thread has been really enlightening for me - I was well aware that antisemitism has been an increasing problem already, but it's been eye-opening to see it being spouted so openly on this forum. I'll be thinking more carefully about actions I can take to support British Jews as a result of some of the bile that I've read here.

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Great post.

What is so sad is that many that show antisemitic language/behaviour are the same people who gets upset when others talk about "all lives matter" or "it's not only women who gets attacked" when talking about "Black lives matter" or "violence against women". In this case, they proudly proclaim along the lines of "not only Jews" or "I care.about all lives/religions" (anything - you name it!), and therefore use the exact same language that they in other cases find despicable. It's mind-boggling that they cannot see the similarity. But I guess that is what racism does to you.

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 13:58

nomas · 02/05/2026 13:54

Rowed back from what? I’ve always said dismissing it as a domestic dispute is minimising.

No one has dismissed it. But it's not an anti-semitic terror attack and that's why it's being treated differently.

Why are you so invested in this one particular victim?

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 13:58

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 13:47

I'm sure you've watched "The Nazis, A Warning from History". It struck me how many of the interviewees thought that maybe the Nazis weren't too bad, or that Jews had gone "too far". They dominated professions, they were too successful. The conspiracy theories and minimising were still apparent, all those years on.
I feel like I'm in the middle of that now, so god knows what it's like for Jewish people.

Exactly, I’m not Jewish either but I’m old enough to remember my uncles who helped liberate the concentration camps and the stories of what they found. I feel sick at disgusting people trying to excuse or minimise anti semitism. I think each of them should be tied to a chair and forced to watch films of the camps.

I would like much better education of people in schools, all schools and for those home schooled to have to study this in detail.

No one should stand by and let this happen, no one should stand by and be appeasers of anyone who shows any sign of anti semitism (anyone voting for this hate is disgusting)

I will always stand with the Jewish people, they will always have my support, I will always called out anti semitism. never again will we allow this persecution-we promised!

Emilesgran · 02/05/2026 13:59

LakieLady · 02/05/2026 13:02

As had Axel Rudakabana.

I think there should be a review into how effective Prevent decision making is.

It's not just Prevent though - there's a general belief in administrative bodies that dark skinned men are too often arrested and that the solution to that is just not to arrest them, rather than to ask why they are so often violent. It's come up in the NHS' and Nottingham University's approach to Valdo Caldocane, as well as the teachers at Axel Rudakabana's school being told off for reporting him.

Concerning Prevent, you can see it in the media narrative that right wing extremists are somehow the "real" threat, as though they are getting away with it and the poor oppressed Muslim extremists are just overreported. Or that their violence is caused by the cost of living crisis FFS: https://x.com/WiltsAnnabelle/status/2050154559616512341?s=20

nomas · 02/05/2026 13:59

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 13:58

No one has dismissed it. But it's not an anti-semitic terror attack and that's why it's being treated differently.

Why are you so invested in this one particular victim?

The thread is about this particular victim.

inamarina · 02/05/2026 14:00

Helpboat · 02/05/2026 10:59

Your convoluted response proves my point perfectly.

Nothing convoluted about their response.

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 14:01

nomas · 02/05/2026 13:54

Rowed back from what? I’ve always said dismissing it as a domestic dispute is minimising.

In case you’ve forgotten your exact words.

in response to “one was a domestic/personal attacks”

It’s not a domestic dispute when you travel to someone’s home and attack them.

You're now rowing back from the position that travel determines the nature of the attack?

neveragainforreal · 02/05/2026 14:02

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 13:47

I'm sure you've watched "The Nazis, A Warning from History". It struck me how many of the interviewees thought that maybe the Nazis weren't too bad, or that Jews had gone "too far". They dominated professions, they were too successful. The conspiracy theories and minimising were still apparent, all those years on.
I feel like I'm in the middle of that now, so god knows what it's like for Jewish people.

Many would still ask "How could the Holocaust happen?", and at the same time engage in threads like this, minimising the rise in antisemitism. I really don't understand how people cannot see the obvious similarity.

nomas · 02/05/2026 14:02

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 14:01

In case you’ve forgotten your exact words.

in response to “one was a domestic/personal attacks”

It’s not a domestic dispute when you travel to someone’s home and attack them.

You're now rowing back from the position that travel determines the nature of the attack?

I’m not rowing back, it wasn’t a domestic dispute. Not sure how many times you need me to say it.

Vintique · 02/05/2026 14:02

inamarina · 02/05/2026 13:55

Yes, it’s like that other poster on a different thread yesterday who kept claiming Hatzalah had received free ambulances from the NHS (conveniently failing to mention that these were a loan after Hatzalah’s own ambulances had been set on fire in an antisemitic attack).

Oh yes I remember that thread, I had to close it because the vitriol from that poster was so horrible. Another one where they seemed determined to spread misinformation!

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