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Naming my mixed race child and Irish name?

152 replies

ihateyousarahm · 01/05/2026 10:52

I'm pregnant with a child who will be mixed race. My family are Irish but we've lived in England for a couple of generations.

We want to respect the heritage and name our child a traditional Irish name. Some people have said it will be hard to pronoumce as it's an Irish name and we don't usually see the name and others have said it's a mixed race baby so don't. However when I said what name we should use, they don't know.

A girls name like Charlotte etc is English and although we have both lived in England for a couple of generations I'm torn.

Ideas please?

OP posts:
nobullshitformedagainstmewillprosper · 01/05/2026 16:30

Who is Sarah m and what did she do to you op

loislovesstewie · 01/05/2026 16:31

nobullshitformedagainstmewillprosper · 01/05/2026 16:30

Who is Sarah m and what did she do to you op

This what I have been wondering! 🤔

nobullshitformedagainstmewillprosper · 01/05/2026 16:33

loislovesstewie · 01/05/2026 16:31

This what I have been wondering! 🤔

Spill the beans on this wicked woman, OP.

HughManity · 01/05/2026 16:35

I know a mixed-race Siobhan and a mixed-race Niamh. I don't think either of them have any Irish heritage and hadn't really thought about it until now.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:45

ihateyousarahm · 01/05/2026 11:48

So would you say a Chinese looking family are English? Or can they not keep their Chinese background?

They are both English and Chinese. Your child can be seen as English and to be honest they will feel English and whatever heritage they are maybe more so than Irish.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:46

DeedsNotDiddums · 01/05/2026 12:14

I would say they are British of Chinese origin.

English and British. They are allowed to be both.

HughManity · 01/05/2026 16:48

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:45

They are both English and Chinese. Your child can be seen as English and to be honest they will feel English and whatever heritage they are maybe more so than Irish.

Most people use British if they identify as British-[nationality] IME.

Itsanewdawnitsanewdayitsanewlife4me · 01/05/2026 16:48

I am not sure I understand the issue. I live in Ireland and am white and one of my nieces is called Cara who lives abroad and is mixed race. We have mixed race and black people born and raised in Ireland too with Irish names.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:54

HughManity · 01/05/2026 16:48

Most people use British if they identify as British-[nationality] IME.

Would you have used British if I had said Scottish or Welsh instead of English which is what was being talked about? Probably not.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:55

I know a family who I think are Nigerian. Their son is a Edwin. Not many of those about!

HughManity · 01/05/2026 17:17

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 16:54

Would you have used British if I had said Scottish or Welsh instead of English which is what was being talked about? Probably not.

I would.

It might depend on whether the individual identified strongly with being Scottish, Welsh or Irish, but the ones I know describe themselves as British-[nationality] not English-[nationality] and I think they are English by birth.

Mixedmix · 01/05/2026 17:34

Pollyanna87 · 01/05/2026 13:04

If the ‘Chinese looking’ family have been in England for ‘a couple of generations’, then of course they’re English. You’re massively overthinking the name thing, by the way.

If someone was born in England but both their parents and all their grandparents aren’t ethnically English then they’re not English. They’re Chinese, Nigerian, Italian etc but their nationality is British. If someone is English Chinese then one parent is white and one parent is Chinese.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 17:37

Mixedmix · 01/05/2026 17:34

If someone was born in England but both their parents and all their grandparents aren’t ethnically English then they’re not English. They’re Chinese, Nigerian, Italian etc but their nationality is British. If someone is English Chinese then one parent is white and one parent is Chinese.

They can call themselves English if they are born here.

Mixedmix · 01/05/2026 17:38

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 17:37

They can call themselves English if they are born here.

Edited

One of my parents was born in England but ethnically Chinese (British Chinese). The other is white English. I’m describing myself! But I guess white people know better?

stample · 01/05/2026 17:38

If anything I literally know a mixed race girl called Saorise! BUT the paternal grandmother really struggled to pronounce her name for the first year . If you like a name, use it. I know a full English woman with the Sri Lankan name Jayanthi too

TheKeatingFive · 01/05/2026 17:40

I don't understand what the problem is, name your child whatever you want. Not all Irish names are hard to pronounce either. Just maybe avoid something like caoilfhionn.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 01/05/2026 17:43

This is why you never tell anyone what your name ideas are! Pick whatever you want, this is your child.

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 18:06

Mixedmix · 01/05/2026 17:38

One of my parents was born in England but ethnically Chinese (British Chinese). The other is white English. I’m describing myself! But I guess white people know better?

I was on about nationality. Your ethnically Chinese parent can call themselves English as well if they wished. English-Chinese as well as British Chinese. Ignoring the last comment from you as it was pointless!

HughManity · 01/05/2026 18:16

Coffeeandbooks88 · 01/05/2026 18:06

I was on about nationality. Your ethnically Chinese parent can call themselves English as well if they wished. English-Chinese as well as British Chinese. Ignoring the last comment from you as it was pointless!

Mixedmix's last sentence was not pointless.
She can call herself English as she was born in England.
She can call herself Chinese-English if she so wishes. (I'd take it to mean one parent English, one parent Chinese-heritage)
I'd describe her as British-Chinese because I'd take that to mean British born to Chinese-heritage parents.

Mixedmix · 01/05/2026 18:34

HughManity · 01/05/2026 18:16

Mixedmix's last sentence was not pointless.
She can call herself English as she was born in England.
She can call herself Chinese-English if she so wishes. (I'd take it to mean one parent English, one parent Chinese-heritage)
I'd describe her as British-Chinese because I'd take that to mean British born to Chinese-heritage parents.

One parent is white so I’m English Chinese. One parent is Chinese but born in England so you’re right that they’re British Chinese because they have a British passport.

Going back to OP she can call her child whatever they want and it doesn’t matter if they’re Irish or not.

allchange5 · 01/05/2026 18:44

TheKeatingFive · 01/05/2026 17:40

I don't understand what the problem is, name your child whatever you want. Not all Irish names are hard to pronounce either. Just maybe avoid something like caoilfhionn.

How would you pronounce Caoilfhionn? Never seen that one.

Eadwearde · 01/05/2026 18:51

allchange5 · 01/05/2026 18:44

How would you pronounce Caoilfhionn? Never seen that one.

https://forvo.com/word/caoilfhionn/

HughManity · 01/05/2026 18:51

Keelan.

allchange5 · 01/05/2026 18:52

How many people in Ireland actually use Irish Gaelic on a daily basis (outside of schools)? Isn't it only about 1%?

Eadwearde · 01/05/2026 18:55

allchange5 · 01/05/2026 18:52

How many people in Ireland actually use Irish Gaelic on a daily basis (outside of schools)? Isn't it only about 1%?

It’s not really relevant as far more than that choose Irish language names for their children.