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To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Helhigh · 29/04/2026 07:07

Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

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Smeuse · 30/04/2026 22:57

EOTHO was another mistake Sunak made

ManageAn · 30/04/2026 23:08

Notonthestairs · 30/04/2026 22:46

Brexit was widely predicted to be economically disastrous - of course that was dismissed as Project Fear. That’s more than a mistake, it’s hubris.
I guess the wealthy could afford to play with the country’s future. The Telegraph of course played its part. I don’t see anyone celebrating it now.
And Russia cheered - rarely a good sign for the UK.

Oh dear. You really don't shut up do you.

ManageAn · 30/04/2026 23:08

Smeuse · 30/04/2026 22:57

EOTHO was another mistake Sunak made

Supporting the restaurant industry and hospitality during a Pandemic. (There was always going to be a second wave.)

ChocolateAddictAlways · 30/04/2026 23:11

PermanentTemporary · 29/04/2026 07:10

Allison Pearson is a ragebait peddler not a journalist any more. But she’s certainly achieved her aim with that piece of bile. If only she would retire or be sacked or do something else that doesn’t involve vomiting hateful nonsense in the public sphere.

A thousand clap emojis for this comment. Spot on.

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/04/2026 23:17

thepariscrimefiles · 29/04/2026 07:44

Why? Because I used the word 'cunt'? It totally fits a rage-baitey gutter journalist like Allison Pearson. I've criticised her for what she says and does, not for her background over which she had no control. She has provided no evidence or sources about Angela Rayner's time at school.

Yes - “cunt” - horrible way to describe a woman .

If you went to a rough school you might get what Alison Pearson means.
If you didn’t- it’s easy to be faux outraged

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 23:25

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/04/2026 23:17

Yes - “cunt” - horrible way to describe a woman .

If you went to a rough school you might get what Alison Pearson means.
If you didn’t- it’s easy to be faux outraged

We all get what Allison Pearson means ... that's the problem. She has stereotyped Angela Rayner unfairly - the injustice of that is being called out.

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/04/2026 23:49

MulberryBrandy · 30/04/2026 23:25

We all get what Allison Pearson means ... that's the problem. She has stereotyped Angela Rayner unfairly - the injustice of that is being called out.

Yes - it is unfair. I agree.

PigletJohn · 30/04/2026 23:50

It's a novel experience to see supporters of Boris Johnson's party fulminating against unplanned pregnancies.

To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?
IAmBeaIDrinkTea · 01/05/2026 00:16

PigletJohn · 30/04/2026 23:50

It's a novel experience to see supporters of Boris Johnson's party fulminating against unplanned pregnancies.

Ha, true 😁

CurlewKate · 01/05/2026 03:09

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/04/2026 23:17

Yes - “cunt” - horrible way to describe a woman .

If you went to a rough school you might get what Alison Pearson means.
If you didn’t- it’s easy to be faux outraged

We all get what Pearson means. People like the ones she describes exist. It’s the vile characterization of Rayner as one of them, and the use of her name as a metonym that we are objecting to.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/05/2026 06:33

OpheliaWasntMad · 30/04/2026 23:17

Yes - “cunt” - horrible way to describe a woman .

If you went to a rough school you might get what Alison Pearson means.
If you didn’t- it’s easy to be faux outraged

Allison Pearson went to a grammar school. They aren't normally 'rough' as they select pupils by academic ability. Plus Angela Rayner's former headteacher has gone on the record to state that Angela Rayner was like his shadow at school, following him everywhere, as she was being bullied. She was not the bully.

Allison Pearson isn't known for her journalistic integrity. She is a rage-batey gutter journalist working for a right-wing paper. You think that 'cunt' is a horrible way to describe someone like Allison Pearson but her spewing classist and horrible lies about Angela Rayner is just fine. Allison Pearson is the bully in this scenario.

Notonthestairs · 01/05/2026 06:35

ManageAn · 30/04/2026 23:08

Oh dear. You really don't shut up do you.

There was really no need for that. I was merely responding to your comment.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/05/2026 06:50

ManageAn · 30/04/2026 23:08

Oh dear. You really don't shut up do you.

Why on earth are you being so rude to @Notonthestairs? You have spammed this thread with your posts but no-one has told you to shut up.

Selectivemute · 01/05/2026 07:17

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What a load of nonsense.

BIossomtoes · 01/05/2026 07:26

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 01/05/2026 07:21

What a load of nonsense.

I think that was addressing the rudeness from @ManageAn.

Smeuse · 01/05/2026 08:15

ManageAn · 30/04/2026 23:08

Supporting the restaurant industry and hospitality during a Pandemic. (There was always going to be a second wave.)

That was not what the Covid Inquiry found.

Don't mention Brexit and it was only cake?

PigletJohn · 01/05/2026 08:29

Fairyliz · 30/04/2026 20:49

Well there are a lot of visitors to MN, one of them must have been at school with AR.
If it’s you spill the beans.

Or indeed AP.

MoFadaCromulent · 01/05/2026 08:36

We all know racists like selectivemute in real life. Doing annoying they can to justify their right wing racist agenda.

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2026 09:35

thepariscrimefiles · 01/05/2026 06:33

Allison Pearson went to a grammar school. They aren't normally 'rough' as they select pupils by academic ability. Plus Angela Rayner's former headteacher has gone on the record to state that Angela Rayner was like his shadow at school, following him everywhere, as she was being bullied. She was not the bully.

Allison Pearson isn't known for her journalistic integrity. She is a rage-batey gutter journalist working for a right-wing paper. You think that 'cunt' is a horrible way to describe someone like Allison Pearson but her spewing classist and horrible lies about Angela Rayner is just fine. Allison Pearson is the bully in this scenario.

I completely agree that the characterisation of AR was wrong and unfair

OpheliaWasntMad · 01/05/2026 09:37

CurlewKate · 01/05/2026 03:09

We all get what Pearson means. People like the ones she describes exist. It’s the vile characterization of Rayner as one of them, and the use of her name as a metonym that we are objecting to.

Yes . I agree. I hadn’t properly read the article. AP’s comments were completely unfair.

ManageAn · 01/05/2026 09:38

Smeuse · 01/05/2026 08:15

That was not what the Covid Inquiry found.

Don't mention Brexit and it was only cake?

Sunak and Boris were fined for what was only cake. The COVID inquiry will nitpick and find flaws and make the government seem like it got everything wrong. If a mistake was made, it was made. People were still going to go out and eat during the summer of 2020. Many on here loved using EOHO back then.

Gordon Brown made a mistake of selling off the gold cheaply, it doesn't mean I don't think he's intelligent. He's very much so and did many other great and good things as chancellor and PM.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/05/2026 09:45

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You're like a comedic parody of an extreme right-winger from the 1980s like Rik Mayall's Alan B'stard except his portrayal was funny while yours is just sad and pathetic.

Smeuse · 01/05/2026 09:47

ManageAn · 01/05/2026 09:38

Sunak and Boris were fined for what was only cake. The COVID inquiry will nitpick and find flaws and make the government seem like it got everything wrong. If a mistake was made, it was made. People were still going to go out and eat during the summer of 2020. Many on here loved using EOHO back then.

Gordon Brown made a mistake of selling off the gold cheaply, it doesn't mean I don't think he's intelligent. He's very much so and did many other great and good things as chancellor and PM.

But Angela Rayner's mistake was to better herself?

pointythings · 01/05/2026 09:50

ManageAn · 01/05/2026 09:38

Sunak and Boris were fined for what was only cake. The COVID inquiry will nitpick and find flaws and make the government seem like it got everything wrong. If a mistake was made, it was made. People were still going to go out and eat during the summer of 2020. Many on here loved using EOHO back then.

Gordon Brown made a mistake of selling off the gold cheaply, it doesn't mean I don't think he's intelligent. He's very much so and did many other great and good things as chancellor and PM.

It wasn't cake. If you can't see that, there's no help for you.

It was a kick in the face for all the parents who didn't celebrate their children's birthdays. It was a kick in the face for all the women giving birth by themselves. It was a kick in the face for everyone who couldn't sit by the bedside of a dying loved one.

You can have the argument about whether COVID rules were reasonable and proportionate, but that is not the point. The point is that Sunak and Johnson spat in the face of everyone who did follow the rules, and that speaks to their massive sense of entitlement.

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