To think allisons pearsons rant about Angela Rayner is full of nasty stereotypes about girls who are 16 and pregnant?

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Well I’m not a fan of Angela Rayner and have never voted labour but Pearsons rant in the telegraph yesterday was half assumptions that Rayner must have been a bully who thumped classmates for doing their homework and distracted the class by talking about how many boys she shagged.
And of course reading books and having a child at 16 is mutually exclusive.
I don’t think Rayner has ever said she was like this Pearson has just made a load of assumptions because she was 16 and pregnant.

Anyway it’s behind a pay wall so I had to copy and paste the nasty part:

“I have noticed a tendency among politicians and commentators, particularly the posh ones, to praise Rayner’s flame-haired “authenticity”. That’s because they didn’t go to school with an Angela. Those of us who did know the harm that the Angelas do to kids from poorer homes who want to work hard and do well but whose lessons are permanently disrupted by those who don’t. The Angelas sit in the back row of the class putting on make-up, doing their nails and chatting loudly, throughout readings from the set book, about who they’ve sh---ed. They disdain the teachers who are rather scared of them.
Angelas have sex by the age of 13 (they mock those of us who are saving our virginity for later). Pregnant at 16, they leave school without any qualifications and work behind the till in Mac Fisheries before embarking on a romantic life which features at least two injunctions and a restraining order. By the age of 37, they are grandmothers (as Rayner was).
Believe me, all the kids who want to get on in life breathe an almighty sigh of relief that the Angelas have left school because now they can hand in their homework and try to pass their exams without being ridiculed or thumped by an Angela.
So you’ll have to forgive me if I don’t join in the applause for Angela Rayner’s vibrant “back story” and her ascent to the top of government through militant trade unionism. The working-class kids I admire often came from difficult council-house homes, as Rayner did, but they clung on to education like a life raft. Or they saw a job opportunity and grasped it with both hands. They did that old-fashioned thing called bettering themselves”

I do not think it’s a fair assumption to make that this is what Rayner was like at school but I wouldn’t be in the slightest bit surprised if this were true.

So presented with the fact and the evidence provided by her headmaster you are still prepared to judge a schoolgirl's actions two decades ago on your unfounded imaginings.

This is why pot stirring lies like those spread by Pearson are so dangerous.
Those with an agenda jump straight on the 'no smoke without fire' wagon.

You are not the thread police. It is OK to do that as long as it doesn't veer into TAAT territory. You can check with MNHQ if you like.

What daughter? Was your claim a lie to whip up the frothers? Or simply Chinese whispers where you are too lazy, too stupid or too bigoted to bother your pretty little head to check what 'facts' you are being told before you rush to parrot them?
My dear girl AR has three children. All of them are male. Not even one daughter. And here you are pretending to wring your hands over the tragedy of the non existent daughter also having a child at 16. One of AR's sons did become a father at 21. Not ideal but he was certainly not in the tough position of being a pregnant schoolgirl so let's not make stuff up sweetie.

Well it seems to be managing fine without you.😊

How very strange you should say that when your entire participation in this thread is an exercise in not minding your own business.

No need for a photo.

We can all imagine the world as it's seen through your eyes.

It ain't great.

if I never hear the words right wing and left wing again it will be too soon. Right wing. Left wing. Right wing. Left wing. It’s such a worn out notion that there’s a load of people on one side with identical viewpoints and a load of people on the other, equally sharing an opposing set of views and no one in the middle who thinks that some conservative views are reasonable and some labour views are okay.

A zombie government with a massive, massive majority. I don't think you understand the UK electoral system.

I reckon the view is the brick wall of mum's basement.

Does it, really?

Maybe you want to tell the bond markets that.
UK 10 year gilts are currently trading above 5%…

Good luck with that.

as I said I wouldn’t have been surprised this is due to her conduct but apparently this ain’t the case

Rayner is bolshy that she downs not play down, quite the opposite

Happiness comes from within, not a nice view….

I don’t think AR Rayner really fell into that category of girl, but I well remember them and the hell they put me and my friends through, I would never risk the school bus, it was safer walking back to the same estate they lived on. My DM had me as a teenager and she was fiercely academic all her life, not all teenage mothers are the same. Not all working class girls are bullies. But I remember the girls AP is talking about and they were vicious.

I think she is in her 40s now? I mean I’m a completely different person from my secondary school days and I’m only in my 20s. Also most politicians are loud and obnoxious it’s the only way to get a word in in parliament. Just because she said scum once doesn’t mean she was a bully in school

Well I guess we have Trump to blame for that, at least partially?
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According to the FT "The US-Israeli war with Iran has fuelled inflation higher and pushed bond investors to demand higher compensation for holding debt"
It also says

"Successive governments need to ask themselves some hard questions. For over a decade, the UK has failed the basic test of debt sustainability: borrowing too much while growing too little. This imbalance created a tinderbox, waiting for a spark. That spark arrived in September 2022 with the budget crisis in the Liz Truss government that exposed the structural vulnerabilities of the UK’s financial system"

Anyway, this is a massive derail.

Back to Pearson and her shoddy "journalism"

Amen.

The bond markets are also pricing political
risk. The irony being they see Starmer as the least risky outcome.

Hence the volatility.

Good argument for him to stay, then.

@Selectivemute But what has this Labour government actually achieved since July 2024?

I am pleased to announce most of us are officially no longer peasants. The feudal system of our overlords has finally been completed. Starmer has seen through what Blair commenced:

Hereditary peers' last hurrah as 700-year-old system abolished - BBC News

Tell the electorate that.

Hard not to be the markets first choice when Burnham and Rayner are the alternative.

One is ‘fick’ and unable to complete basic
arithmetic and the other does not believe in the bond markets….

You couldn’t make this shit up.

Is there evidence for her not being a competent MP? She’s won 4 successive elections with reasonable majorities!

Great. Get rid of hereditary peers, and replace them with people like Matthew Doyle instead.

Tbh, I don't entirely disagree. I find the terms right and left to be over and erroneously used. I've been called a right wing bigot (for being GC) on the same day as being called a woke lefty (for speaking in support of diversity initiatives aimed at people of colour) so I tend to try to avoid falling into the trap of lazily throwing the terms around based an isolated views and/or with the sole purpose being to insult.
In the case of the quoted post, I'm using the terms in a factual way. The people making attacks on AR support right wing politics and AR is a left wing politician. So I think its reasonable to use these terms. How else to express my opinion on the motivations behind the attack on her?

The advice was conflicting. It was clearly not black and white or HMRC wouldn’t be taking so long to unravel it.

HMRC are probably unearthing other shit
Rayner has tried to hide….