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To think MPs shouldn’t be drinking while at work?

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greywildoceans · 28/04/2026 06:44

There’s a big debate going on after new Green MP Hannah Smith has come out and said that you can smell the alcohol on MPs after lunchtime.

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/2048323140804100487?s=46

Of course all the usual lot are coming out saying it’s a British tradition to drink at work and she’s being “anti British”. I’ve worked in the public sector and the private sector and I have never encountered anyone who thought it was appropriate to drink while working. I’m confident that if anyone did, they’d be fired.

AIBU to say MPs should be banned from drinking while working?

PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) on X

"You can smell the alcohol when people are in between votes." Green MP Hannah Spencer tells us what Westminster is REALLY like. The full interview is live on YouTube, and as a podcast here: https://t.co/s4mKAc0xku

https://x.com/politicsjoe_uk/status/2048323140804100487?s=46

OP posts:
LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 28/04/2026 23:32

BelleEpoque27 · 28/04/2026 07:06

Times have definitely changed, but only relatively recently - I was absolutely going to the pub on a Friday lunchtime until around 2010/2012. And the HoC is a very traditional workplace where things likely change very slowly.

I'm not saying it's ok, but it's not really surprising it's happening. I guess if you started work after it stopped it must seem weird, but it was totally normal and acceptable when I started work (private sector) - our boss used to put a company credit card behind the bar 😳

ETA - I do very much think the subsidised bars and restaurants should come to an end. MPs earn very well, they can pay for their food and drink like everyone else.

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This. I worked in magazine publishing 2002ish-2007ish and our boss would always take us out on a Friday lunchtime for a pub lunch and a drink in the pub over the road. Those guys were hardcore drinkers. People were frequently leathered and sometimes we didn’t even go back to the office, it just carried on into the evening. The afternoons where we did go back I remember frequently squinting at my computer screen, typing absolute gibberish. I was young and couldn’t handle my booze, so I was well and truly wankered after a couple of pints.

I then stared teaching in 2008 and again, it was a standard thing in my first school to head over to the pub over the road for lunch and a drink on a Friday. It had been the same at the school where I was a pupil; we all knew that the younger teachers (and a few of the hardcore older ones) went to the pub on a Friday lunchtime… we would see them all traipsing back into school, giggling and smoking.

Once I was teaching I would always join the Friday lunchtime pub lunch crew, but only ever had an alcoholic drink and went back to teach once- turns out that going back into school to teach a mental Year 8 class whilst half cut was absolutely horrible. I’d only had a white wine spritzer, but I felt disorientated and queasy and remember thinking that I couldn’t get up and teach the lesson this way. Teaching really isn’t a job where there’s anywhere to hide. But some teachers did it no problem, on way more than a white wine spritzer (there were a couple of older, male teachers who would put away three pints of a Friday lunch time, easy). Either it was no problem for them to teach whilst pissed, or they just put on a video.

Almost 20 years later, it seems outrageous and the vibe is very different in teaching now; much more corporate and professional. I suspect that it’s probably the case in magazines too, and that the days of the company credit card paying for shots of Sambuca is over. As it should be: drinking on the job is unprofessional and there’s no place for it in a modern workplace, which includes the House of Commons. You wouldn’t have a pub inside a school for teachers, so why are there bars inside the Commons for MPs? Hannah Spencer is absolutely right to call this out, very well done to her.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 29/04/2026 07:26

you obviously don’t know many people then, it’s quite normal for “office” workers to have a pint on their lunch

Can’t speak for the OP but I know lots of people working in a variety of roles across different sectors. I also work with a wide range of businesses. It’s not normal to go for a pint a lunchtime. Across my wide range of family, friends and colleagues I don’t know anyone who regularly goes for a pint a lunchtime.
People are far more likely to go to the gym.

are the green party the answer? absolutely not, not many MPs live in the real world anyway but Green party MPs certainly don’t

This isn’t a debate about the Green Party or their policies though it’s it? I certainly won’t be voting Green but that doesn’t mean I don’t think she might have a point about this particular issue.

the root cause of our problems isn’t MPs having a pint on their lunch break though.

They’re not just having a pint a lunchtime are they? I shared a report which stated that alcohol played a significant role in complaints about bullying, harassment and sexual misconduct. That’s not the result of an occasional pint at lunch.

GingerBeverage · 29/04/2026 08:34

From a couple of years ago, but interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/jan/07/liam-byrne-inequality-wealth-interview-labour-note-no-money-treasury

He went on to make a speech in parliament: “And I was completely knocked out by everybody who then got in touch and said, ‘Me too.’ I’d say about a quarter to a third of MPs are the children of alcoholics.” Really? This seems a lot. “Yes, but all the pathologies you develop to survive it are the same as those that take you into a place like politics.” I must look alarmed, because he adds quickly: “The children of alcoholics are kids who are trained to try to put things right; who build armour plating so things can’t hurt them. They’re perfectionist and very driven.”

Liam Byrne: ‘I’d say about a quarter to a third of MPs are the children of alcoholics’

In his new book, the Labour MP, who left a note to his Treasury successor in 2010 saying that there was ‘no money’, likens modern Britain to the last days of Rome. He talks about trauma, Starmer and creating a fairer society

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/jan/07/liam-byrne-inequality-wealth-interview-labour-note-no-money-treasury

Everanewbie · Today 11:55

Do you think the responses would be different here had the revelations about Angela Rayner's drunken antics been known before this thread?

The mental gymnastics lefties would have to do here would be a fun watch. Either agree with the Green Party member and condemn their darling working class hero Angela, or tell the Green party member she is being ridiculous and defend Angela's right to get blotto and play up!

Soontobe60 · Today 12:15

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · 28/04/2026 14:11

I have done a quick search @Everanewbie and it would appear that here is in fact some evidence that drinking in parliament is problematic.
Apparently 1 in 5 complaints to the Independent Complaints and Grievance Scheme involved alcohol and they state that alcohol continues to play a significant role in bullying, harassment and sexual misconduct in Parliament.

I believe the worst profession for alcohol issues is medicine - specifically amongst GPs

Soontobe60 · Today 12:22

@HighLadyofTheNightCourt did you carry out a WhatsApp poll to find out this information?

Can’t speak for the OP but I know lots of people working in a variety of roles across different sectors. I also work with a wide range of businesses. It’s not normal to go for a pint a lunchtime. Across my wide range of family, friends and colleagues I don’t know anyone who regularly goes for a pint a lunchtime.
People are far more likely to go to the gym

My experience is the opposite.

What are your views on employees who are taking very strong prescription drugs in order to be able to work, such as benzodiazepines, opioids, antidepressants, stimulants, anti-epileptic meds and blood pressure meds? All of these are commonly used and can have a significant impact on one’s ability to carry out tasks safely as well as impact cognitive functions.

GingerBeverage · Today 12:33

My work implemented a strong alcohol policy on the basis they need to ensure staff wellbeing. I think this helps anyone suffering alcohol dependence.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · Today 12:47

Everanewbie · Today 11:55

Do you think the responses would be different here had the revelations about Angela Rayner's drunken antics been known before this thread?

The mental gymnastics lefties would have to do here would be a fun watch. Either agree with the Green Party member and condemn their darling working class hero Angela, or tell the Green party member she is being ridiculous and defend Angela's right to get blotto and play up!

What are you going on about?
I really dislike Angela Rayner and I really dislike the Green Party and fundamentally disagree with the vast majority of their policies.

My opinions on drinking alcohol at work have absolutely nothing to do with my political affiliations.
We are allowed to have opinions on things that not politically motivated.

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · Today 12:47

Soontobe60 · Today 12:15

I believe the worst profession for alcohol issues is medicine - specifically amongst GPs

And?

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · Today 12:53

Soontobe60 · Today 12:22

@HighLadyofTheNightCourt did you carry out a WhatsApp poll to find out this information?

Can’t speak for the OP but I know lots of people working in a variety of roles across different sectors. I also work with a wide range of businesses. It’s not normal to go for a pint a lunchtime. Across my wide range of family, friends and colleagues I don’t know anyone who regularly goes for a pint a lunchtime.
People are far more likely to go to the gym

My experience is the opposite.

What are your views on employees who are taking very strong prescription drugs in order to be able to work, such as benzodiazepines, opioids, antidepressants, stimulants, anti-epileptic meds and blood pressure meds? All of these are commonly used and can have a significant impact on one’s ability to carry out tasks safely as well as impact cognitive functions.

Not a WhatsApp poll - just my job.
I do a lot of work with employers and on organisational culture, policy and practice.

As for your questions about prescription drugs. If people talking prescription drugs is impacting their ability to do their job effectively or safely then that would need investigating in conjunction with occupational health.

That’s a different issue to choosing to drink alcohol whilst working though isn’t it?

Everanewbie · Today 12:57

HighLadyofTheNightCourt · Today 12:47

What are you going on about?
I really dislike Angela Rayner and I really dislike the Green Party and fundamentally disagree with the vast majority of their policies.

My opinions on drinking alcohol at work have absolutely nothing to do with my political affiliations.
We are allowed to have opinions on things that not politically motivated.

I am not referencing you here.

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