Do people genuinely believe 'you should get her/him sectioned' as some sort of option?

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I see this sort of comment quite a lot on here and its cropped up in another thread.

'you should consider getting her sectioned'

And the OP is thanking the poster for the useful advice!!

The issue around sectioning has also come up a lot in the threads about the Southport killer and on threads about children with that sort of presentation

It astounds me that in this day and age people still think that you can 'get someone sectioned' as if you just phone someone and the black Maria comes and gets them.

I think this is part of the problem with getting upset about language and taking issue with direct simple use of words.

I asked a one line simple question. The answer in most cases is ‘friends and family’.

You have replied with three paragraphs. Completely talked round in circles and failed to answer the question because you were too worried about saying the correct thing. This is not useful use of language.

What you described is not "plain and simple".

It's incorrect and wrong.

I think @Serencwtch was trying to be helpful by offering education surrounding this

If you're on twitter/X then have a look at Dr Sanjoy Kumar & Emma Webber who are the parents of the 2 students killed.

So your source for it being the wrong ruling, is the opinion of the victims' parents?

Medical Evidence: Multiple psychiatrists provided evidence that Calocane was suffering from severe paranoid schizophrenia at the time of the attacks, which severely impaired his self-control.

They're trying to get the ruling changed, but I don't think they'll be successful.

The Court of Appeal ruled that Valdo Calocane’s sentence was not "unduly lenient". While victims' families strongly criticized the sentence and the Attorney General referred it for review, senior judges found no error in the judge's original decision to impose an indefinite hospital order, noting that his severe mental condition compelled this outcome.

I understand not wanting the stigma of someone like him being associated with a mental illness (which I can only guess was what the PP's "offensive and bigoted" comment was about) but I don't think the solution is to completely ignore the fact he was suffering from it or never talk about the case? It's not a reflection on the vast majority of people living with mental illness who are NOT violent.

I was talking more about the enquiry which is taking place currently.

It is independently & systematically looking at all of the evidence & alot of it especially from the police and NHS are damning.

There are many other experts giving evidence that suggest many failings took place, it's not just the parents - they have just been covering a lot more of the facts & details than us in the wider media.

The Mental Health cop is another account worth having a look at, he has a blog on WordPress that explains it well.