Threat to the King, in the US

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Given that there was another “assassination attempt” on Trump, do you think that there is a threat to the safety of King Charles, during his State Visit to the US?
Either, the attempts are absolutely genuine, and therefore, there is a distinct lack of decent security surrounding these events, OR they are “staged” and the King could be an actual target, to garner support for Trump 🤔
(personal opinion, to be clear, is that the attempts have been staged and that poor man who died was “collateral damage”, hit at random, to gain support for “poor, targeted” Trump, which actually worked)
YABU - attempts have been genuine and the King would not be at risk
YANBU - the King should stay at home

Do you actually know how it works?

I think all the assassination attempts are fakes. KC3 may as well go Queen Victoria had loads of would be assassins after her. Part of the job. The Pope will be next. Will that be a set up though on orders of someone who doesn't like him.
Anyway it might give the RF a bit of sympathy if it does happen. Good PR for Pa.

Oh no, I don’t understand it at all - please explain it to me 🙄

We absolutely have the mechanism to say no.

Then you must understand that "BP" cannot "say no".
Unless you'd prefer the monarch to have more power than the government. That would give you the "mechanism" you require.
Pesky Parliament getting in the way of a King!

He doesn't have a choice. His job is to act on behalf of the government.
Personal issues have to be set aside.
Maybe the food will be good 😉

I don’t think Royalists can have it both ways-they always say how important the RF’s role in soft diplomacy is and that’s how they earn their money-they can’t then say they should cancel a trip if it starts to look tricky. Particularly considering they will have their own security team with them.

Yes, there are royalists on here who clearly would like the monarch to have a lot more power, and reject the will of Parliament. To only agree to diplomatic visits and tours if it personally suits the Monarch. Not what the elected government decides.
Fortunately, I think KC is wise enough to follow governmental decisions and policies.

It is only a couple of days. I am sure they can get through it.

Very true!

No I don’t think so. The royalists, as you call them, will know how it works. It’s the people, saying he should refuse, that are the true royalists in my mind.

I’m a constitutional monarchist. Will remain so until such time as there is a proper thought out alternative, not, an off with their heads.

Why are people that generally hate the RF suddenly so worried about them

I don’t like the RF. That doesn’t mean I want them to be shot.
Actually, thinking about it, considering Charles’ health and Camilla’s dislike of travel, why don’t they send William and Catherine?

Because it wasn’t arranged that they would go. If that had been the arrangement then obviously it would be them that would go. I don’t mind the RF but they are there to do a job which they are doing by going there as arranged

Let Charles earn his cash, who knows, it might do some good. Cancelling will do no good at all.

And there is RF topic for these threads

Yes, that's the point, you believe that he should follow the instructions of the elected government. Some people on here think that he shouldn't. There's quite a difference in that thinking.

If the aim was for Charles to talk sense into Trump, they’d have done better sending Anne! Mind you she hates the orange twat so would probably refuse. She managed to avoid shaking hands with Trump last time he was here.

What a hero eh? Yawn.

I think the aim of the government is rarely to "talk sense" to an elected leader, or judging them .More about keeping diplomatic channels open, pouring oil on troubled waters, finding commonality and keeping communication open.
I'm surprised at Princess Anne not shaking hands with him. She's been a public servant for about 60 years, she's shaken hands with all sorts of people. It's the job.

Diplomacy isn’t “talking sense” into people. Don’t be silly.

I’m a republican but have nothing personal against the King. As a pp said he has a brain and is thoughtful and cultured - more so than William, who can be crashingly tin eared at times.

There must be a contingency plan. What if Charles broke his leg or even just got flu?

I find it hard to believe that Anne refused to shake hands.

Yes, me too. It is her job, and we know how seriously she takes it.

Charles absolutely 100% should go. Simply because it's his job. It's what we pay him to do, it's why he gets to live in luxury and be treated with deference. His entire life is because we need and expect him to do his duty to the country and do what we need him to do.

The government have decided that's what he needs to do and so he must do it. Otherwise, he has no business being King.

Charles knows and understands this very well.

I do feel for him, and any decent person that has to spend any time with Trump, but I regularly have to do things I don't like in my job too. And I don't get given a life of luxury for doing it.