parkrun defending their position

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I used to be a parkrunner and do not understand how parkrun can defend their position of allowing trans identfying males into the female category.

I read that 280 published race winners in the female category are actually men identifying as women. How is this fair to women? Some women don’t care about this but some women do, just as some men take it as a race and care about the rankings and some men don’t

The other option of course is they could stop the timing, stop recording winners and records?

AIBU to genuinely not understand why parkrun claim not to be a race when they time the runners, publish times by category, rank times and runners, and have record holders by category.

Yes, objectively measured. Just like the winning time in a Parkrun event.

So you're a political purist. If the hard right were against animal abuse, would you take a contrary position simply because they are the 'hard right'.

To be fair to some Uber Competitives and screw everybody else.

It was set up as a time trial

trial

And that's better than...what exactly?

Yes, as proven, it most certainly is. And you and everyone on this thread knows it.

Yawn.

Please don't tell me how I think.

EXACTLY! 'It isN't A comPetItiOn' is bullshit. And everyone on here knows it.

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Goodness, this is getting ridiculous. No one has said parkrun should be abolished. Just that it should merely be a run in the park with no details taken. That's all.

Is that really so incredibly hard to understand?

The 'inclusive' word again. It's not about 'trans'. It's about male vs female. Having no rankings, timings, categories makes it more inclusive (as much as I detest that hateful misogynistic term).

How would every run or walk in the park not then be "a parkrun". You haven't acknowledged that I'm parkrunning now! It's not timed or recorded, but I am! I'm now the world record holder for the most parkruns, I've done thousands since I discovered that I am only counting them myself and I didn't need to time anything or scan anything.

But again, park runs funding depends on numbers. Take away the timing, competitive element and you will lose at least half the runners overnight. I expect it will no longer be viable

You don't like the word 'inclusive'? Colour me shocked.

So abolish Parkrun in the name of fairness. Gotcha.

I assume TheBlackCat is being disingenuous. At least, I hope so.

The word 'inclusive' almost always means unfairness to women. Colour me shocked that you don't have a problem with that.

If parkrun is unfair, then it should be abolished, yes.

27 pages of a handful of people arguing for men’s rights.

“It’s just fun so women don’t need to have the same access to data as men"
“It’ll be too difficult to police the cheating men so we should just keep the rules unfair towards women"

Nah, it doesn't. But I don't think there's any point in discussing anything further with you.

That's what I like so much about it - the community aspect. People in general, altogether, not male v female. There's plenty of races you can go get that at if racing is more to your thing.

I basically wrote all this in my opening post.

Yes, it does. Every.single.time. But you are right there is no point discussing it further with you.

Feel free to come to a parkrun and carry out a survey of participants asking if we should remove all times and records of peoples' runs (and volunteers? in case men are cheating and trying to become the woman volunteer with the most volunteer credits I guess?).

But men can race at park run.
Women can’t see meaningful data