parkrun defending their position

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I used to be a parkrunner and do not understand how parkrun can defend their position of allowing trans identfying males into the female category.

I read that 280 published race winners in the female category are actually men identifying as women. How is this fair to women? Some women don’t care about this but some women do, just as some men take it as a race and care about the rankings and some men don’t

The other option of course is they could stop the timing, stop recording winners and records?

AIBU to genuinely not understand why parkrun claim not to be a race when they time the runners, publish times by category, rank times and runners, and have record holders by category.

Anti trans activists do not deserve to be likened to suffragettes in any way shape or form. 🙄

Nope it isn’t.

It is a competition, and we all know it! And it's more than the 'first' finishers.

I'd wager most of us have been or attended Parkrun in some capacity. Are you really telling us it is 'too much effort' to buy a watch or use your smartphone? What would you do if you didn't have parkrun taking your timing? It's just laziness to not be able to take your own time.

Park run isn’t a competition, “nobody comes last”

Then answer the questions about why they publish winners?

Answer the question with something other than ‘it’s not a competition"😂

You've been told that people from London marathon choose participants based on parkrun times. At this stage it is willful ignorance to ignore the evidence, out of sheer stubbornness to not admit you're wrong.

Then why do they publish the slowest time in their ranking

You can’t answer this with “it’s not a competition"

It really is, but misogynists will misogyn... 🙄

Nobody comes last is their ethos- if you want something else find another activity.

I absolutely am not. Parkrun has a well documented ethos which many of their websites advertised. Maybe do a bit of research.

While boys and men get to jog on and keep their activity and results.

I haven't read the whole thread but it isn't a competition with a prize. It's timed but that's more for people's own records

Also, you're getting very hung up on the gender side of things. Forgive me if someone has mentioned this but no one seems to care that I could register as 60 and be the fastest in my age group.

Park run is a free, volunteer led run. It doesn't need to get involved in all this political posturing

Surely they do though as the times are listed and someone has to be last…

but they publish the last time so everyone can see who came last.

You could- but I think they would move you if they found you were listed incorrectly. They wouldn’t move someone if they were in the wrong sex category as there aren’t any.

In what way are trans people vulnerable? How are they vulnerable? I hate this ‘poor wee lambs’ image given to blokes breeching women’s legally held boundaries.

But why? its like having speed limits but then publicly saying "we wont enforce them"
what would be the point?

Any trans who already thinks its ok to run in a womens category, would carry on doing so and if a runner was reported, how exactly would PR find out (100%) if they were biologically male or female?

We've done loads of PRs, its a vanishing small issue, its up to PR to have their own rules, no one is forcing you to do PR's, plenty of club organised 5k races etc to run in if you don't like the way PRs are organised.

FWIW i asked my DD who usually is one the fastest females, she said "i couldn't care less, its not a competition"

Yep, to mens rights activists, feminists fighting for fairness are the ones ruining things, not the unfairness existing in the first place. It's rule number one:

You also might want to read the thread.

Yet we accept trans men (females) so are we only 50% 'anti trans'? We are from the suffragettes. Anti feminists and Mens Rights Activists have no right to talk on feminism. 🙄

Yes it is, and you know it,

Park run is a competition, and those who come last know from their public rankings.

You absolutely are. It was set up as a time trialing event and people are chosen for marathons and elite sporting events based on their public timings. Too bad the facts disagree with you.

People can buy a watch or use a smartphone to time themselves. There is no reason or justification for parkrun taking timings and publishing them on their site. That makes it a competition. And feminists are not going to stop until parkrun is held accountable and changes things.

Why are you persisting with this lie?