PIP for Anxiety

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AIBU to clear things up?

The current nasty rhetoric around disabled people at the moment is astounding. Society needs to be reminded that we are ALL one illness or accident away from disability.

Everyone knows someone who is gaming the system, yet the PIP fraud rate is extremely low. The public demonising, does not match the reality.

The hot topic is “anxiety” and how people with “anxiety” are gaming the system, getting “free” cars and robbing tax payers; this is being constantly fed through media, news articles and so on.

This is simply not true. The people spouting this nonsense clearly have no idea how PIP works. Nobody gets PIP without strong medical evidence. Nobody.

Before anyone posts “my neighbour got PIP just by telling lies”. No, they did not. That’s not how it works.

People need to be educated properly on how benefits work, how they are awarded and what the criteria for mobility cars actually is; the cars are not in fact free.

People need to be educated on the fact that there is anxiety, which every human suffers from at some point, and then there are anxiety DISORDERS which are entirely different and can be life changing and debilitating. Hence, the need and entitlement for PIP.

Brenda down the road who feels too anxious to go to Bingo on a Friday night is NOT getting PIP ❌

Mary up the lane who has such severe OCD that she cannot leave her own home for fear that she will die, IS getting PIP .✅

There’s a huge difference.

The current turning on disabled people is shameful and we are living in a country full of hate because Bob (and his Uncle) are annoyed that they are paying tax to “support all of these scroungers”.

Bob (and his Uncle), needs to hope that they never get cancer, or suffer life changing trauma or have an unfortunate accident to avoid being served a huge scrounged humble pie.

I do not suffer from anxiety but as a human, I am pleased we have a system in society to support the most vulnerable people who need it. Life can happen to anyone.

It's going to be different for everybody. For me:
Prepared veg - bagged salads, frozen veg - and ready-to-cook meat, etc. I also keep a stock of tinned curries, microwave rice, etc for when I can't cook at all.
More kitchen appliances than I used to need.
Incontinence pants and pads for the bed & seats.
Laundry service. I don't iron, but they fold things nicely.
OTC meds for pain and the 'flu-like' symptoms I have every day. Antiseptics. Supplements that are supposed to help.
Cleaner. I haven't got one atm and the place is genuinely disgusting. What I really need is a sort of surrogate mum coming in for a couple of hours a day, but that's prohibitively expensive if you can even find one.
Taxis.
Oh, and I get through 1½ bog rolls a day by myself 😬 Also don't shower much, so I use truckloads of baby wipes and sanitiser foam.

PIP's meant to help facilitate a normal life. As it goes, my life's anything but normal because I've got no energy to do anything. I can paint a picture of the help I would actually need to approximate normality, but I'd need to be very rich indeed to afford it.

I get standard rate care.

it's not. Open your HMRC tax account, there is a split available there. It's 25%. But if we take the latest estimate of welfare bill now exceeding total income tax receipts, then the picture is shocking

If you are aware, I am surprised you are wishing that poster good luck for the tribunal and using them as an example of someone having to fight for PIP.

It would be written statements from the mh team you are under

Because we can all play games look at what I actually wrote

How would that help than?
So everyone should know that autism for example is a huge spectrum
Should someone say like Christina Mcguiness snd my son both be treated the aame and get the same award of PIP al as they both have a disgnsis of autism?
I have no doubt christina haa her own issues but they are very different to.my son who at very nearly 16 ,is non verbal can only communicate on a very basic level cannot ,read or write has the cognitive abillty of a toddler and needs 1:1 support at all times.

I did read what you wrote. You were the one to wish the poster “good luck”.

That’s a crock of shit. Nonexistent?
While the NHS is getting cut by thousands of staff, DWP is hiring thousands of fraud investigators.
Oh and spending over £20m for AI to trawl for evidence of fraud on all social media platforms and in all benefits recipients bank accounts.

They are watching, they’re just not finding that many when it comes to PIP.

Universal Credit however, they are finding loads of able bodied fraudsters. Almost like you need to be fit and healthy to run a scam.

Omg use your brain

You don’t know her entire needs. My dd has autism( and other conditions). It’s not non verbal autism and then everybody else as regards need.It’s a spectrum. My dd has tried to kill herself several times and needs a huge amount of support hence her full PIP which she deserves just as much as your son.

My son transfers to PIP this year he has no physicsl disabliity
One of the criteria for HRM under PIP is wether somone can undertske a journey from A to B independently ,hes non verbsl with the understanding of a toddler so that would be a no
A mobilty car makes his life and our life just a bit easier thankfully this recognised by the government

Great im glad your, daughter gets the righr award
I realljy dont want to be arguing about who dearves what
Im merely pointing out that awards are based on needs not disgnois .

What a rude person you are.

You were questioning as to whether others who don’t present like your son should get what he gets I was simply pointing out that you don’t know the ins and outs of other cases.

Most people with anxiety are never referred to a MH team.

And thats why most people with mild to moderate anxiety don't get pip

No i wasent i
But im not goung ti be drawn into an argument im glad your daughter gets the hghest rates of DLA its based on needs not diagnosis so she clearly has a very high level of needs like my son .

Well if you wish someone “good luck” then, yes, I am going to point out to you they only applied because they thought it was awarded easily.

Your post really is disgusting. I am not the dumbest person in the room, my SPAG is poor but at least I know the difference between there and their, but you are certainly rude.

Lots of people too anxious to work really seem
to able to post on MN all day and all night

For younger pip claimants reports from an educational psychologist, speech and language therapist, occupational therapy, school, CAMHS, social care and/or an education, health and care plan.

Stop being so trusting and taking things literally. Not everyone who is kind to you is on your side. Remember that its a good life lesson

I don't think one person on this thread is claiming pip for anxiety disorder

I don’t need you to tell me what to do, thanks. I don’t need a ‘life lesson’ either.

Wrong, I'm afraid, that is not the reason. Look, you obviously don't know how the PIP process works (nothing wrong with that ofc, you have no need to). But your proclamations about what can never happen, when you know nothing about it, is a bit annoying.