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PIP for Anxiety

1000 replies

IntelligenceIsFree · 24/04/2026 13:18

AIBU to clear things up?

The current nasty rhetoric around disabled people at the moment is astounding. Society needs to be reminded that we are ALL one illness or accident away from disability.

Everyone knows someone who is gaming the system, yet the PIP fraud rate is extremely low. The public demonising, does not match the reality.

The hot topic is “anxiety” and how people with “anxiety” are gaming the system, getting “free” cars and robbing tax payers; this is being constantly fed through media, news articles and so on.

This is simply not true. The people spouting this nonsense clearly have no idea how PIP works. Nobody gets PIP without strong medical evidence. Nobody.

Before anyone posts “my neighbour got PIP just by telling lies”. No, they did not. That’s not how it works.

People need to be educated properly on how benefits work, how they are awarded and what the criteria for mobility cars actually is; the cars are not in fact free.

People need to be educated on the fact that there is anxiety, which every human suffers from at some point, and then there are anxiety DISORDERS which are entirely different and can be life changing and debilitating. Hence, the need and entitlement for PIP.

Brenda down the road who feels too anxious to go to Bingo on a Friday night is NOT getting PIP ❌

Mary up the lane who has such severe OCD that she cannot leave her own home for fear that she will die, IS getting PIP .✅

There’s a huge difference.

The current turning on disabled people is shameful and we are living in a country full of hate because Bob (and his Uncle) are annoyed that they are paying tax to “support all of these scroungers”.

Bob (and his Uncle), needs to hope that they never get cancer, or suffer life changing trauma or have an unfortunate accident to avoid being served a huge scrounged humble pie.

I do not suffer from anxiety but as a human, I am pleased we have a system in society to support the most vulnerable people who need it. Life can happen to anyone.

OP posts:
Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:25

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:21

You need help and a plan.
Just because someone has autism or ADHD doesn't mean they can't improve

Wow, autism is a disability. You can’t just plan away autism. What help or plan, how will she afford this mythical cure?

Pickledonion1999 · 24/04/2026 20:25

Contrarymary30 · 24/04/2026 20:22

What has tax got to do with it ? It's not means tested .

I think she means she applied for PIP herself as she feels she pays too much tax so treats the PIP like a tax rebate maybe ??

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:26

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:21

You need help and a plan.
Just because someone has autism or ADHD doesn't mean they can't improve

Did you mean to be quite so ableist?

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:26

Nolanyardforme · 24/04/2026 20:24

Because it’s paid for by tax taken from other people?

Its about 2% of the tax you pay. And is there for if you or your children ever need it in the future. If it makes you feel any better i work and pay tax and claim pip

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:28

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:26

Did you mean to be quite so ableist?

Im pretty sure he/ she did they've been making comments like this throughout the whole thread

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:28

MidnightMeltdown · 24/04/2026 20:16

No, some people like to milk it. We need to stop enabling these people to sit at home on disability.

Right so anything up to and the same as your individual experience is ok, but nobody could ever possibly have a worse experience. Gotcha.

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:29

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:28

Im pretty sure he/ she did they've been making comments like this throughout the whole thread

I mean. That's not true.

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:30

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:29

I mean. That's not true.

Well lots of things on this thread haven't been

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:31

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:26

Did you mean to be quite so ableist?

Ableist?
Wouldn't it be more ableist to say autistic/adhd people can't improve so help would be pointless?

Theres a certain accusatory tone that tends to come from posters on here who don't agree with others view point

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:31

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:30

Well lots of things on this thread haven't been

And lots have

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:33

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:31

And lots have

Yeah everything I've written has been true

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:34

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:33

Yeah everything I've written has been true

...?

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:34

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:31

Ableist?
Wouldn't it be more ableist to say autistic/adhd people can't improve so help would be pointless?

Theres a certain accusatory tone that tends to come from posters on here who don't agree with others view point

Bloody hell.

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:35

neilshair · 24/04/2026 20:34

Bloody hell.

What?
Oh. Yes. Nothing more to comment. You wrongly accused me of being ableist but now won't admit it

Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:36

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:31

Ableist?
Wouldn't it be more ableist to say autistic/adhd people can't improve so help would be pointless?

Theres a certain accusatory tone that tends to come from posters on here who don't agree with others view point

You can’t get rid of adhd or autism. Both come with huge difficulties that have a big impact on life. There is next to no support for many and autistic people are far more likely to end up let down hugely by services, over medicated, abused, to experience trauma, bullied,drop out of education, unemployed etc etc

There is a reason it’s a disability.

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:37

Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:36

You can’t get rid of adhd or autism. Both come with huge difficulties that have a big impact on life. There is next to no support for many and autistic people are far more likely to end up let down hugely by services, over medicated, abused, to experience trauma, bullied,drop out of education, unemployed etc etc

There is a reason it’s a disability.

Where did I say get rid of?
You seem to read what you want to read.
I hope you realise that and question why you so badly wanted it to be true that I said someone can "get rid of" autism

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:38

Meanwhile the money that could be used to help people such as that PP is being spent on unwarranted mobility vehicles and the like

Bepo77 · 24/04/2026 20:39

SparkleSoiree · 24/04/2026 15:04

Official statistics for the financial year ending (FYE) 2024 show the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) fraud rate is exceptionally low, with some reports citing 0% to 0.4%.

Of course the statistics are low! Do you think the government are knocking on doors checking who's having a panic attack and who isn't? Or who's registered their real address vs a relative's address?

Nolanyardforme · 24/04/2026 20:39

youalright · 24/04/2026 20:26

Its about 2% of the tax you pay. And is there for if you or your children ever need it in the future. If it makes you feel any better i work and pay tax and claim pip

As I said upthread, it really doesn’t matter to me. It’s tax, I pay it.
But someone asking what does PIP have to do with tax IS a bit worrying. Where do they think it comes from? It might “only” be 2% but that’s still billion and billions of pounds?

Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:41

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:37

Where did I say get rid of?
You seem to read what you want to read.
I hope you realise that and question why you so badly wanted it to be true that I said someone can "get rid of" autism

Improve.It’s a built in disability. You can try to manage traits better but you can’t improve autism and managing traits better is often nigh on impossible as there is next to no support for anybody let alone ND friendly and adjusted care/ support.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/04/2026 20:42

I have no problem with people getting PIP. However, there is fraud. I think that if people genuinely need it tgey should have to supply receipts on what it is spent on ... would be difficult for my friend who gets it for her son (he can't receive it as a drug addict) and gives it mostly to a relative because they are skint. That's the truth!

Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:44

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/04/2026 20:42

I have no problem with people getting PIP. However, there is fraud. I think that if people genuinely need it tgey should have to supply receipts on what it is spent on ... would be difficult for my friend who gets it for her son (he can't receive it as a drug addict) and gives it mostly to a relative because they are skint. That's the truth!

Nobody has said there isn’t, but it’s low.

WerzMyHedAt · 24/04/2026 20:45

Kfti48dj · 24/04/2026 20:41

Improve.It’s a built in disability. You can try to manage traits better but you can’t improve autism and managing traits better is often nigh on impossible as there is next to no support for anybody let alone ND friendly and adjusted care/ support.

Managing traits is a improvement.
Defeatist attitudes accomplish nothing

EpidermolysisBullosa · 24/04/2026 20:45

Starlightexpresss · 24/04/2026 17:28

Genuine question- how do you prove you cant get dressed in the morning?

I could easily make up a story about that.

I explained that I need help fastening my bra when my arthritis is bad but DWP decided this couldn't be true as I'm capable of lancing blisters on my own feet (my main condition I receive PIP for is Epidermolysis Bullosa).

They're completely different actions, plus lancing blisters doesn't require me to put my hands behind my back.

The assessors will find any excuse not to believe what you say and they ask the same questions in different ways at different times to identify any discrepancies.

LondonLady1980 · 24/04/2026 20:45

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 24/04/2026 20:42

I have no problem with people getting PIP. However, there is fraud. I think that if people genuinely need it tgey should have to supply receipts on what it is spent on ... would be difficult for my friend who gets it for her son (he can't receive it as a drug addict) and gives it mostly to a relative because they are skint. That's the truth!

My friend’s BF gets about £800 PIP a month (for unwarranted reasons in opinion) and gives over £650 to his dad in order to help him pay off his debts 🙄

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