To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.

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trump, wars, Israel invading Lebanon, US mid terms…….

it would mental for Starmer to go and it’s a trap.

yabu - of course Starmer has to go, despite what is happening in the world right now.

yanbu - time to move on and deal with trump and the blatant manipulation of the media by Russia, right wing billionaire interests.

He won’t be going anywhere. Kemi Badenoch’s demands are just performative nonsense they all indulge in. It does appear that neither he nor her or indeed most people who have commented understand the vetting process which is a bit worrying.

Sue Gray, Morgan McSweeney, Olly Robbins

Frankly, those senior civil servants who permitted the whole Civil Service to be compromised by organisations like Stonewall - which gave unlawful advice and misogynistic training - needed sacking anyway. Antonia Romeo is another one.

In fact Antonia Romeo was criticised for taking two weeks to tell the Prime Minister that Lord Mandelson had failed vetting, was she not?

That's the trouble when you willingly get infiltrated by a grandiose ideology. You get used to lying, deflecting and obfuscating. The Civil Service at the top is absolutely rotten, and so are the networks and unions that are supposed to be for the benefit of staff. Same with the NHS.

Antonia Romeo is still there, Starmer only recently put her there.

Exactly this. The whole current government, from elected officials to civil servants, is infected with people who lie that men can become women.

Why is anyone surprised that it turns out that they're all lying about everything else as well? It's the norm, not a one off.

And what a shock, it only took a few days in her new job until she became embroiled in a scandal in which she was either incompetent or part of a dishonest cover up

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/17/keir-starmer-kept-in-dark-peter-mandelson-vetting-two-top-civil-servants

It’s not about world events for me, it’s about the fact there is no one to replace him, so we’d lurch from one disaster to an even bigger one. So as much as I can’t get over how bad he is, I don’t hold him responsible, it’s all of them, and getting some other incapable fool in isn’t going to make it any better.

Yes, I know. She's another one who is steeped in Stonewall 'Law' though, like the others. Damaging and intellectually pathetic.

Not according to her previous boss, Gus O’Donnell, in this morning’s Times

In Dame Antonia the prime minister has a real heavyweight — the hugely talented and experienced leader he needs as a partner to fix this foundational relationship.

There probably are a few. I think OR will have a case though. It looks like he might go to tribunal, perhaps a large payout.

Starmer panicked and sacked anyone without checking, he didn’t check anything really even before statements to the house.

I can't stand Starmer but the thought of who would replace him fills me with even more dread and that's the only reason I want him to stay.

Same here.

How did it come to this?

Both GO'D and AR are Stonewalled and Pink News-lauded QT+ luvvies.

Anyway, Starmer's on soon, so we'll see what we will see. Meanwhile I've got a desk to build.

May the least worse lie win.

And that what to do with their competence? O’Donnell is widely regarded as one of the most competent heads of the civil service ever.

It would be an absolute disaster if Starmer resigned. I'm not a fan by any means but he's doing a decent job at dealing with Trump and balancing a lot of very delicate balls (excuse the pun). Who the hell would do any better, at this point?

The media are bloody toxic and are out for more blood. Remember Teresa May? They're got their sights on Starmer and it's disgusting. I won't buy any papers. They make me sick.

Honestly, I'm convinced that the only reason people think Starmer is doing a bad job is that we are constantly being TOLD by the right-wing media that he's doing a bad job.

British people are very fickle. It's a very in one ear, out the other way of living - when the press were hounding us with "stop the boats" headlines, it was all you heard about. As soon as those headlines disappeared, a lot of people (specifically my parents) stopped banging on about it.

In my opinion, he could single handedly stop the Ukraine, Gaza and Iran wars, give every single person in the country a million pounds, fix the NHS and he would STILL be treated like shit. It's frankly bizarre.

I admit I voted labour. But I was a swing voter, in an incredibly safe Tory seat and quite frankly I flipped a coin in the booth between labour and Lib Dem.

But since Labour has been in, the NHS waiting lists in my area have dropped dramatically (my dad thought he would have to wait 3 years for a knee op, he's been told it's actually closer to 6 months!). My work as a freelancer has rocketed and I'm working at capacity for the first time since May 2024. Before Trump decided to invade Iran, I wasn't getting as panicked about renewing my mortgage as rates were dropping - literally by every metric, I was personally seeing improvements.

Internationally, we need a trained lawyer who can help de-escalate any situation.

We cannot forget that Kemi and Nigel's immediate thoughts were that we should have joined the US in an illegal war.

I went down a rabbit hole with this and my search told me:

One search result mentions a "mastery of the media" related to Stonewall, but this refers to a different individual, specifically a "former assistant editor of The Observer" mentioned in a PinkNews article from 2007.

You appear to have the wrong person.

The media are bloody toxic and are out for more blood. Remember Teresa May? They're got their sights on Starmer and it's disgusting. I won't buy any papers. They make me sick.

Also this. I think Theresa May was given a poisoned chalice, but she was someone who genuinely cared about doing the right thing for the country, not her own pockets. I think had she been in charge during Covid, we would have had a very different response.

I want a boring PM. I want to be able to just not think about politics for a while.

It's absolutely not normal to be changing leadership every two years. That instability is massively why the UK struggles to make progress.

I'm a proud member of the conservative and unionist party. Respect all the 2010-2024 PMs (bar Truss) and I think to myself of how many times Starmer called for Boris to resign over party gate. How Starmer always portrayed himself as morally superior and saying he would resign if fined over beergate. If he's found to have knowingly mislead the house. He should go.

Until we see that getting rid of people in this way is killing our politics we havent got a hope in hell.

Nowadays politicians spend more time digging up dirt on their opposition and trying to get each other into trouble than they do on working out good policies that will help our country get back on its feet.

Do you know why they do this? Its because they are all fucking terrible politicians and they know they cant win votes by being good at their jobs.

Lets take this instance as an example. We are in the middle of a fucking tornado of shit at present. We have COL crisis. Oil crisis. Ukraine War. Iran War. All we need at present is another covid type outbreak and we would be close to martial law. Who the fuck thinks its a good idea to go after the PM (Who i dont particularly rate) because he employed a misscrient? He made a mistake or someone in his cabinet did. NEXT.....

Get people out of their position because someone is better and has shown the public they are better instead of this gutter race to the bottom.

It's when you read comments like this on the BBC, i wonder if i'm part of some weird twilight universe

The Conservative argument in the Commons will amount to suggesting that Starmer has beheaded more people close to him than Henry VIII - and they hope this afternoon will "hasten squeaky bum time of Labour MPs", as one Tory source put it to me.

Kemi Badenoch will challenge Labour MPs to ask themselves if Starmer is the best they can do, as the government finds itself consumed again by questions about Mandelson as opposed to the consequences of the Iran war, the cost of living and much else besides.

Sorry, but considering the number of Tory PMs we've had in recent years, how the fuck can they say that Starmer "beheads more people than Henry VIII?" And again, how can Kemi say that when she's almost certainly not going to be a party leader by the time of the next election?

As @Tessasanderson says, why can't we be saying "we need someone better because they've proven it in xyz" rather than political pointscoring?

Breaking: Starmer's spokesman has said he will admit that he "gave misleading information" to parliament but he didn't mean to

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/20/keir-starmer-admit-inadvertently-gave-mps-misleading-information-peter-mandelson

Point remains. So fucking what?

Who is better placed to replace him?
Would we be stronger if we did replace him?
Would it just weaken our already shit political system?

How about those making all this noise come back with some solutions rather than doing everything they can to weaken us. Its like turkeys voting for christmas.

So all that needs to happen is the record will be corrected.

eta: Under the ministerial code, it is only knowingly misleading parliament that is regarded as a resignation offence; ministers who unintentionally mislead parliament are just expected to correct the record at the earliest opportunity.

Labour have more than 400 MPs.

If they really don't have anyone that's good enough to replace the guy whose own advisers thought it's best he doesn't get told that he's lying, and he never asked if what he's saying is true, then we need a General Election very soon.