AIBU, Is my neighbour a CF?

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Earlier this week my NDN knocked on our door to advise he was having some landscaping work done, and the workers would be spraying the garden with weedkiller. We have a cat that sometimes goes in the garden so he was letting us know so we could keep cat indoors.

I came home from work today to find a portaloo with the landscapers name on, on my land right up against my house. We are detached and have a strip of lawn between our houses then I have some paving (basically a path that goes nowhere) and a fence with no gate, as our access is at other side. The portaloo is sited on my side, and gives easy access to their gate so the workers can get in and out.

I'm rather bemused, if I was going to contract a company who were bringing their own loo:
A) I would find somewhere on my own plot to put it
B) if a) was not possible I would approach my neighbours and ask them very nicely if I could put a loo on their land

AIBU to expect that people don't put toilets on other people's land? Are my neighbours CF?

Builder probably made an error.
Ask them to move it.

I was going to ask a similar question to pp, have the contractors put it in the only place that is flat, stable clear of obstacles and not affected by the actual works? They should have checked if ok with you though.

Tell the cheeky cunt faces to bog off with their smelly portaloo.

They have a three car wide drive and only one car, so I suppose it could have gone there. It may be perfectly sensible for access for contractors but it's still my land, and not my problem to resolve where they should put their portaloo

I’d play dumb. Call the company the portals belongs to and say that someone’s dumped it. Probably drunk students or something. Ask them to come and collect it. (Then if your cf neighbours want it back then it will cost them.)

The fact that the neighbour came round to speak to you about the spraying suggests that he isn’t a total arse and hopefully he hasn’t done this on purpose and will be reasonable. It’s odd though that presumably they’d have seen where it is by now and he hasn’t been round to speak to you though ?!

Good luck with going round there. 9.30 seems a reasonable time!

Ring the company and tell them to move it from your property. Then speak to your NDN and tell them you have asked the company to move it as it is on your property and you don't want it there!
Why are you even thinking about it?

I was about to suggest the same! Only I’d tell the company it must have been delivered by mistake because students wouldn’t bother to move a portaloo. If your neighbours complain, keep up the lie - you assumed it was delivered by mistake because no one spoke to you about it.

The company should come and get it promptly because there’s money in it for them; either to re-deliver/move it or to hire it out to someone else.

Call the company the portals belongs to and say that someone’s dumped it.
Ring the company and tell them to move it from your property.

It's Saturday morning. Do you think anyone will be in the office to answer the phone today?

Maybe the NDN thought the gardeners had checked or perhaps thought that it wouldn’t bother you seeing as that bit isn’t used or overlooked.
They were nice to let you know to keep the cat in. Does your cat ever use their garden as a toilet I wonder.

Yeah, this is the thing, it is quite a logical place, and in the interests of neighbourly relations I would be ok with it being there, in the hope (and expectation) that the courtesy is repaid at some point down the line if we needed a similar type of favour.

HOWEVER, they absolutely should have asked first.

it’s the fact that it just appeared and they have not acknowledged it which is just not appropriate.

Neighbours sound reasonable (the card and wine and courtesy about the cat), but if the loo goes unremarked upon there’s a chance they might then start taking the piss going forwards. Hopefully not.

So you don’t necessarily want to make them move it, but I think you do need to say something.

“Hello, how’s the work going? I was surprised to see the portaloo on my driveway. Did you know it was going to be there?”

….and then take it from there.

Seeing as the neighbours have been nice in other ways, I'd just leave it. If they came around right now and asked if it was ok, would you say yes? If so, just leave it be.
Obviously if it was starting to cause any problems like damage or smell, you could approach them.

I thought it stood for CF - CNT FACE*

Oh Jesus, I will ever be able to see that abbreviation without thinking this now🤣🤣🤣 (I think I prefer it …)

Honestly why all the faff?
Where else it could be placed, not the OP's problem.
How long it will be there, again not the OP's problem.
No making excuses.
Its possible to be both polite and firm.

Ask them to move it. There must be somewhere they can put it on their own land.
My mum's neighbour was having a new fence and sent the workmen into my mum's garden so theirs didn't get messed up!! Nip this in the bud.

Is there a chance NDN has been falsely told by company that they cleared it with you?

Yeah just tell them to move it. Just approach it like there was a mistake and that obviously the loo shouldn't be on your land, and point to the location where it looks like it could sensibly go?

If the neighbours literally did it on purpose and said put the loo against my neighbours property then yes they are CFs. But I don't really see why they'd do that?

It's more likely the contractors just put it there and neighbours are just kind of hoping you won't notice or care? Or they've not really noticed themselves? Which is thoughtless but not necessarily deliberate CFery.

The NDNs sound nice and considerate so I am guessing it’s the landscapers who have decided to thoughtlessly place it there for their convenience and the neighbours may be unaware. I’m continually surprised how little many tradespeople seem to pay no attention to boundary lines! Pretty much every time I have work done I have to ask them to move their vans out of other people’s parking spaces, they just seem to treat it as a free for all.

Most can be padlocked.

Yes it's in the wrong place - but I can see why it's been put there.

You could mention it but if it's only to be there for a few days I'd be tempted to leave it - but I still might have a word with them.

They are not that heavy and you could drag it across to their land.

Same here unless they are people I know. Where I live my garages adjoin my neighbours garages and the houses face each other. Imagine a squared off U shape with houses making the uprights and the block of 4 garages as the bottom of the U. I used to work part time and came home one day to find my neighbour had workmen in who had parked their van in front of one of my garages and set uo a workshop in front of the other....benches, tools, materials, sawdust everywhere, the lot. I asked them what they were doing on my property and the boss said that they had been told it was fine as I would be out all day and he even asked if I could go out again. I made clear that that was not going to happen. Turns out my neighbour had waited in to see the workmen arrive and then gone off to work and had no notion of what they had done.
Either way though, portaloo needs to move quick smart.

again, why would you have to suggest an alternate placement? basically why would you care provided its off your property?

It's far too close to the OP's kitchen door. The contractor has to find an alternative.

My late husband let the council put scaffolding in the back garden of our old house whilst they built a two-storey extension on the house rented by the NDN.

The house had been up for sale, but we had to take it off the market. However, it was empty so the builders obviously reckoned they had carte blanche.

It took a while for me to get the mess cleared up. The workmen removed the scaffolding, but left the slabs that that the scaffolding had rested on. They also filled our green bin with broken tiles.

I phoned the number on the card that was pushed through our door when the scaffolding went up. Whenever I got through to reception, "Bill" the gaffer was never available and never returned my calls.

In the end, I took photographs of the mess and sent a covering letter via recorded delivery to the Head of Building Services, stating that we weren't entrepreneurs - simply people who had been unable to sell their house. I also explained that we hadn't been able to monitor the work because of ill health. (DH was still recovering from open heart surgery and I was recovering from a bilateral foot operation and had been on crutches.)

I also reported Fife Council Building Dept to Fife Council Waste Management for fly tipping.

An ashen-faced bloke in a suit was on my doorstep next day.

ETA Ever since then, I've been wary of being "nice".

Have you been round? What did they say?

If I came home to see a plastic shitbox placed on my path, near to my kitchen window it would not cross my mind to put up with it, no matter who my neighbours were or what they were like.

I cannot believe that anyone would wait even two seconds to go right over and ask for it to be moved.

And yes your neighbours are CF, presumably they have eyes and can see that THEIR workmen are going to be pissing and shitting next to YOUR kitchen window..and they haven't said anything?????