To be fed up with the barrage of weight loss drug content I am exposed to

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I am on Instagram and Facebook and am constantly bombarded with weight loss drug content. I followed a great influencer who I never thought was overweight and now have seen her post she can fit into a size 8 in Zara and her life is infinitely better, I read post after post that these drugs not only made people lose weight - they cured heart disease, IBS etc etc! I see it everywhere, women are just turning into clones of each other - Botox, fillers, the same beige legging combo and now super skinny. How has this drug been allowed to be advertised so widely without any consideration to the damage this is doing to women and young girl’s mental health? Surely people are only being cured of these conditions because they’re not eating all the unhealthy stuff (which can only be a good thing) but this lifetime living in a state of malnutrition (the post I read the other day had user after user saying how they felt dizzy when they stood up) is not healthy! Even if you do exercise - you won’t be getting nutrients. Or is it all sunbeams and moonbeams and should I think about going on it to lose the last stone I want (the fact I am a size 12 and wouldn’t be allowed to go on it because my BMI is normal yet a friend used it to loose weight and now will stay on it until to maintain her size 6-8 frame seems wild. Yet I would love to be a size 8 and I wouldn’t be allowed it) the whole thing seems a joke to me. Am I unreasonable? Is it the unicorn of drugs? And if it’s that safe why can’t I go on it?

Sorry just read this fully, thay support is offered, we can all access that, we can go to private doctors, full service pharmacies who do video calls consultations, monthly check ins.

I don’t need or want that sort of support I’m a grown up, being fat didn’t make me stupid, I lost weight responsibly at 1.5 lbs a week, my last blood tests at year end were optimal

not everyone needs thst level of support, many know how to eat properly. And for those who don’t, then yes they can have that. Whay you can’t do is force people to do all those check ins like some form of nanny state.

being fat doesn’t equate to be stupid or illinformed. Sure some are. But it’s a minority,

My friend gets them when she puts on a stone, takes them for a month and the weight has gone. Goes from a size 12 to a 10. So there must be a way to get them.

@Velvetandleather perhaps it varies with providers, the 'support' I've heard of is a standard increase of dose at set intervals and sending proof of a weigh in, nothing more.
I also think it's a bit unfair to suggest that offering support beyond just posting a prescription to people who have by nature had a complex relationship with food is inferring they must be stupid. I don't think many people could plan a sub 1000 calorie a day diet that includes all an adults nutritional needs, and even if they get chat GPT to tell them, it doesn't mean it'll be straightforward for them to stick to. And that's before you get into all the emotional and social reasons linked to over eating, which may be easier with appetite suppression but they don't just disappear.

Obesity is not a “disease” you can’t catch it . It’s sheer and utter greediness and laziness which makes people fat . Why people say it’s a disease is beyond me

Look at other things to change your algorithm. It's only showing you these things because you're interested.

The fact it’s beyond you doesn’t make it untrue. It’s considered a disease by all the relevant health authorities and you can easily go and check the definitions they use and the reasons why. There are many diseases that you don’t catch, being infectious isn’t a defining aspect of a disease.

A disease is nto defined on whether you can catch it from someone. You show a limited amount of understanding about health matters

@Birdsongisangry the majority of online pharmacies don’t force a dose increase each month. I’ve used several different ones and all give you the choice of staying on the same dose, moving down or up depending on how you’re doing. There’s no set intervals where you must increase your dose. I’ve been on Mounjaro for approaching 2 years and I’m only on 10mg, and have been for months now. Before that I was on 7.5mg for a long while too. I’ve had plenty of information sent to me about all aspects of using Mounjaro to lose weight. I have access to ask questions or get support from a pharmacist or a doctor. I have check in emails where I can respond if I have an issue. There’s a Facebook group from my current pharmacy where you can ask questions and the pharmacy will respond. So much more support than I get for example with respect to my ongoing blood pressure medication prescription from my NHS GP. That’s a text message once a year….

OP I agree with a lot of your posts. Weight loss drugs are amazing for those who genuinely need it but for the rest of us it's blurred the lines of what a normal body should look like. A couple of years ago we celebrated lots of body shapes. I followed a few size 12/14 etc ladies on Instagram that tried on different outfits who looked fabulous. How refreshing after the 90s culture of stick thin models many of who had eating disorders. Now the narrative has come full circle where people are striving to be skinny again. It's depressing that once again woman feel the need to be a size 6/8 to be happy. That a normal weight, healthy woman feels the need to pays hundreds of pounds to inject herself every wk to conform to societies standards of what they should look like despite the risk of side effects. I have a young daughter and I do worry about what the future looks like for her. You sound fit, strong and healthy. Your bank balance is healthier with no jabs and no risk of any premature aging or side effects. Take it as a win that you don't need them. You are lucky. Your health is your wealth.

Gosh, did they not teach you in school what a disease is?

this is the definition of a disease

An abnormal condition that affects the structure or function of part or all of the body and is usually associated with specific signs and symptoms

it is not simply onky cause by infections or pathogens, or contagious,that’s only one type of disease. A disease is an abnormal condition thay impacts our structure or ability to function and obesity is absolutely classed as a disease.

You disapprove if it, think is dangerous, think its damaging to women,............but are foam at the mouth furious you cant go on it.
Riiiiight.

Hang on you said this

I remember her telling me that because she was physically limited in the amount of food she ate and the type of food she could digest, that she had to carefully follow the guidance of her surgeon to ensure she remained healthy, in terms of nutrition, as well as taking particular supplements. That makes sense if someone is eating a very low calorie diet for a long time, and I think that type of support should be offered alongside WLI

i was pointing out this is already available for those who wish it, easily available, it’s a choice not to have it, we don’t all need it or wish it, and most of us don’t eat a very low cal diet, and certainly not for any length of time.

anyone who thinks that’s what happens is really ill informed and needs to read up more.

Flaunting about as size 8s😂😂😂
Or, living their lives as size 8s.

Doing nothing but injecting. You just claimed they are active starving themselves. Which if it was true is not just injecting.

Really? You dont know what a normal face looks like?
1.6 milion people have used WLI in the UK. That means about 58 million people havent.
You should get out more. You will be surrounded by normal faces and bodies.

Of course in the UK normal means fat. So perhaps indeed you dont know what a healthy weight looks like and think that slim is skeletal.

I am now 7 1/2 stone with a BMI of 19. You would certainly call me skeletal.

I am not. I am the same hight and weight as my mother was on her wedding day 60 years ago. She was a completely average built woman of her era. She just looked like everybody else.

So yes perceptions are skewed. Skewed towards thinking slim is skeletal and fat is normal.

And yes I will keep taking it as maintainance as I have done for the last 2 years. So shoot me .

You have to get through the temu andshein bombardment first!

Hello again 👋🏼 you can't stay away from these threads can you? Any chance to stick the boot in at the fatties. Obesity is a disease, as classified by the WHO. Just because it's a self inflicted disease (in most cases) doesn't mean it's not one.

That person had bariatric surgery, not WLI. One poster has mentioned they have had good support from their WLI provider but with it being a private service the offer varies massively.

Your bank balance is healthier with no jabs and no risk of any premature aging or side effects

there is no risk of premature ageing. It’s weight loss. I have lost 4 stone. I look older - my actual age, same as any skinny woman my age. The fat just filled out my face. It’s gone so there are more wrinkles.

how long ago did yoh hit goal?

when I hit goal my neck was a bit scraggy, some upper arm crepyness and some under my backside, over a year later it’s all gone.

I have an excellent skin care regime, seldom drink alcohol. Drink 3 litres of water a day and take collagen. My skin is smooth and my jaw taut, I’ve no jowls and I don’t even have marionette lines, I’ve mild crows feet when I smile and the usual forehead wrinkles, which are more apparent when my face moves. I’m in my fifties,

if does all tighten up. Although I guess it depends on how long you were over weight for,and lifestyle. But mine surprises me to be honest.

when I was fat I had jowls, as the fat was visible on my face as it is most fat people, it was also puffy and I had a double chin. So for me it’s knocked years off.

Same. I look younger, despite having slight looseness in my neck skin. My face looks much better and more youthful now it's not inflated with doughy fat 🤷🏼‍♀️

@EatMoreChocolate44yes! It’s just weird how those on the jab get so annoyed with anyone not wanting to be bombarded with the adverts or to think we have a toxic beauty standard. Apparently the only people allowed to enraged about anything are those who have taken a jab to lose the weight! So many posters have given really helpful info and so many also on here just plain gaslighting! Xxx

Not there yet. About half way. Very crepey around upper arms, thighs and bum. Neck has definitely aged me. Not really bothered. I look better overall and I feel bloody amazing!

It tightens, don’t worry, they say up to two years, mine was faster, I’d say after 6 months post goal I noticed a noticeable difference. One of our male friends, when I commented on my arms last summer , said no way you can get rid of that, only surgery can help, which was fine, he’s very blunt, but slightly annoying as it genuinely was just some crepyness, he was round to dinner a couple of months ago and I was wearing a sleeveless top and he couldn’t believe it was gone and my arms are smooth. He kept saying where’s it gone, that’s amazing.😂

keeo uo with the strength training if you’re doing it. Or start if not, aim for min 1g of protein for every kg of body weight.

when I hit goal I went straight into body recomp, upped protein to min 1.5g of body weight, started taking creatine, which is a bloody marvellous thing, you can lift so much heavier, kept up with my workouts, moisturised all over daily, used bio oil on my arms, and slowly but surely everything just went back tight.you really need to build your triceps to deal with the arms. And glutes for the under bum stuff.

im guessing it probably would have tightened any way to an extent. But I helped it on its way and muscle really is the coat hanger. It helps hugely. As does moisurising so the skin is supple and being fully hydrated.

good luck x

@Velvetandleather How are you finding calories i.e meeting your goal on body recomp? That's the bit I am struggling with. All the calculators give me a scary-high calorie goal, and I can't bring myself to hit it.

The one I have been previously advised to use recommends 2300 cals a day on training days and 1800 on non-training days. The one linked in this thread thought I should be eating 3200 cals a day 😱

I manage to hit between 1500-1800 cals most days and around 170-180g protein.

I didn’t use a calculator, they are always wrong. ☺️, I reverse dieted whilst reducing my meds till I hit maintenance,it’s the only way to know.

so a hundred odd cals extra each week, till I stopped losing weight, whilst slowly moving down from 10mg to 5mg, my maintenance dose. The increase in food offset the increase in appetite, so I never felt any different at any stage, like I wasn’t overly hungry or craving stuff; When I stopped losing weight I knew I was at maintenance, and keep to that.

i work out a lot but have a sedentary job, and id say I eat about 2000 -2200 odd cals a day and between 1.5 to 2g of protein to each kg of body weight. I work out the protein, I don’t really count cals. I just guesstimate if asked. I do workout for 45-60 mins 5 or 6 days a week.

I have nights out, ie I go out with my husband for dinner every fortnight, I go out with my female friends every fortnight, so every week I go out, I just alternate between husband and friends. Have wine , food etc when out, and my weight stays stable, it goes up or down max 2lbs/1 kg. So I guess the weekends offset any defecit during the week.

my food intake is very stable during the week, I don’t deviate much and tend to eat variations on a theme,

when out I usually have two large glasses of wine. Sometimes more, last weekend was 2 large and 2 small in one night. Meals in restaurants I tend to eat seafood, and rice and veg sort of stuff. Like garlic king prawns, grilled veg, portion of rice, that kind of thing,

i don’t drink at home any more, onky when out, and i seldom eat anything like chocolate, most nights I do have a very small handful of crisps and nuts after dinner. Like 5 of each.

chocolate, which I used fk be addicted to I probably get an urge for every 3 or 4 months, then I just have what i fancy, doesn’t seem to make any difference to my weight, although if I did it daily it would; a couple of weeks ago I had a gu pudding and a cream egg as I just felt like it, that was the first since new year and probably won’t have the urge again for a few months,