To be fed up with the barrage of weight loss drug content I am exposed to

[pinkpeonytuesday]

I am on Instagram and Facebook and am constantly bombarded with weight loss drug content. I followed a great influencer who I never thought was overweight and now have seen her post she can fit into a size 8 in Zara and her life is infinitely better, I read post after post that these drugs not only made people lose weight - they cured heart disease, IBS etc etc! I see it everywhere, women are just turning into clones of each other - Botox, fillers, the same beige legging combo and now super skinny. How has this drug been allowed to be advertised so widely without any consideration to the damage this is doing to women and young girl’s mental health? Surely people are only being cured of these conditions because they’re not eating all the unhealthy stuff (which can only be a good thing) but this lifetime living in a state of malnutrition (the post I read the other day had user after user saying how they felt dizzy when they stood up) is not healthy! Even if you do exercise - you won’t be getting nutrients. Or is it all sunbeams and moonbeams and should I think about going on it to lose the last stone I want (the fact I am a size 12 and wouldn’t be allowed to go on it because my BMI is normal yet a friend used it to loose weight and now will stay on it until to maintain her size 6-8 frame seems wild. Yet I would love to be a size 8 and I wouldn’t be allowed it) the whole thing seems a joke to me. Am I unreasonable? Is it the unicorn of drugs? And if it’s that safe why can’t I go on it?

I took them at size 12 and am now an 8. I feel better and it’s reduced joint pain. I had inflammation tested and despite having an auto immune condition it’s (CRP) under 0.6. I’ll be taking a microdose for life.

@xanthomelanai know people who are on them. When you say put in the work… what do you mean? It silences food noise, so you can still lose weight without putting in work.

@Frequencyyes, I did see someone talking about if we saw a horse In a field and we could see its bones or a dog we’d be horrified - but Hollywood has glamorised skinny again

You sound bitter. Can't you get fat then start taking them??

Size eight isn’t “super skinny” or “skeletal” for most people.

I am size 6/8 and have a healthy BMI.

You seem very jealous and bitter.

I am really bitter! I’ve said it 100 times on this thread. I’m also jealous and have been diagnosed with mental health disorder by one kind poster!
Size 8 is healthy and a size 16 is healthy. But losing weight obsessively to become skeletal sizes is not natural. A size six as an adult, depending on your height is not healthy. If you take every comment about a weight you are so sensitively then maybe you have issues too!

@pinkpeonytuesday Clothes size is irrelevant to whether you are a healthy weight. They are not consistent from one shop to the next. A useful approximation is BMI, based on your height, weight and ethnicity.

There is no point at all being bitter about people who are obese getting a prescription medication that you don't qualify for.

What you are forgetting about is that you are a healthy weight. You don't have any weight related health issues and you don't have any of the ongoing serious health risks of being obese or significantly overweight. You also don't need to spend approx £100 to £275 a month on WLI and you don't need to take the risks associated with taking a prescription only medication like WLI. What on earth is there to be bitter about???

@Velvetandleather appreciate the conversation has moved on a bit since you replied to me. The logic I am struggling to understand is:

BMI above 27/30 depending on health needs - risk re obesity is greater than risk of side effects, so WLI recommended, fine.

BMI below this, no WLI should be prescribed to someone wanting to lose weight, because the risks of the drug outweigh any benefit. Makes sense.

Someone who started on WLI at the higher BMI, can get to a healthy BMI, then carry on them. Below 27, below 25, below 22, even 20 in some cases. Surely when they get to 25 or 26, the risks around obesity have been reduced, and no longer balance against the risks around taking the drugs? Why is it safe and purposeful for them to continue, but it wouldn't be for someone else to start? If its considered that someone else has no need to lose weight at that BMI, why would someone who has been on WLI need to keep going?

Please don't say that it's because it's 'easy' for someone who hasn't been severely overweight to lose if they're a bit overweight, or at the higher end of BMI. Many of the people in that situation are there because they are already working at it, and whilst that might be a different experience to someone who has struggled with obesity it doesn't mean they can just nip to the gym a few times and easily lose.

@SilenceInsidei’m not bitter 😉 i just have been called bitter and jealous about ten times on this thread! Was being facetious.

i agree with EVERYTHING you’ve said. And I repeat, I am 100% supportive of those people who are
clinically obese and have used it to lose weight and get healthy.

What I do object to is those who flaunt their use of it on social media to lose a stone or two, by proclaiming they were very overweight etc etc! I personally think it’s really toxic and unhealthy thing to promote and I’ve been seeing more and more of it! This is my viewpoint that apparently
makes me jealous and bitter.

I would still like to lose a stone! But I will not be using WLD as I can’t get them and actually hate taking any medication as I wouldn’t be good at injecting myself.

thanks for you kind a lovely and insightful comments on my post, you’ve really opened my eyes xxx

Also whilst I am questioning the logic in the criteria, I am not against WLI at all. I have two friends on them, both with health issues not caused by weight, but where weight makes it much worse and limits their ability to exercise, and taking them has been life changing. It frustrates me that both have had to pay when they have a clear need.

I just don't understand why they continue to be prescribed to continue to lose once someone has got to a BMI where they're no longer affected by weight related health issues (aside from maintenance dosing to stay at a healthy weight)

@Birdsongisangry what you're suggesting doesn't make much sense though, to me. Say a formerly obese person, like me for example, gets to a BMI of 24.9 which is what my BMI is now, down from 50. I am still taking Mounjaro and aim to lose another stone ish to get into the 23 range of BMI. You would stop my prescription as I've ducked under 25. You would expect me to just stop immediately and attempt to manage the risk of regain without medication? Instead you think I should be maintaining in the overweight category? At a BMI somewhere between 25 and 27? Why?

You can still eat on them. You have to make sure you make the right choices and exercise so you don’t lose muscle, it’s exactly the same as any other weight loss diet. I lost a few stone on them and it’s not a case of inject and do nothing, it’s a whole lifestyle change or you’ll regain the weight. It’s the same as people who opt for surgery such as a gastric band, it’s not the easy way out people think it is.

What on earth are you talking about. Are you very young?

a aize 16 is overweight for most women, it is a waist size 34 - 36 inches. So unless over 5ft 10, likely over weight. A size 8 os 25- 27 inches so likely healthy weight for most again unless tall, a size 6 likely underweight for many unless short.

you are obsessed with dress size and other women’s dress size. Clearly spend time on social media obsessively looking at the size of other women v yourself and desperately want the drugs so you too can be a size 8.

it is utterly childish.

i’m not young and no I’m not obsessed - says the person who seems to know in detail about BMI, waist sizes etc etc! A size 16 is not overweight if you’re a certain height and a size 8 is not underweight if you’re under a certain height. You seem obsessed with me having an opinion about weight at all! Go Troll someone else’s post!

@xanthomelanathanks for letting me know. I have heard a lot about muscle loss and having to do strength training alongside the jabs. From personal experience I’ve just been shocked at how quickly the weight seems to go (fyi not bitter and not jealous just an observation)

@SilenceInsidethat makes perfect sense when you put it like that. But does this not mean you’ll be on them for life? Or does the NHS have a cut off point?

I agree. Why should people who have eaten themselves to obesity qualify for them but people that have watched their weight their whole lives and now in their 40’s + struggling to lose a couple of stone due to hormones not be allowed to take them if their bmi isn’t high enough. Completely unfair

I have a private prescription, I wouldn’t have qualified on the NHS. I have been obese for more than 30 years, it’s important that I avoid regaining a significant amount of weight and let my poor body be a healthy weight for a decent amount of time. I will continue with Mounjaro, or any of the newer medications, for as long as I need to to maintain my weight. Ideally I would like to manage without, but I will not rush that at all and I will be happy to restart if I don’t manage to maintain well enough on my own.

@Autumnismyfaveplease don’t say that out loud you’ll be called ‘jealous’ ‘bitter’ ‘childish’!

@SilenceInside really interesting intel! Thanks for educating me and I hope you feel better for taking it and can enjoy life a bit more now xxx

@Autumnismyfave you can access it legitimately if your BMI is over 25. There are a handful of online pharmacies that offer it off licence for people in that weight category. So no need to feel hard done by.

Ah so I hit a sore spot. No op, being knowgeable doesn’t make one obsessed. It just makes you knowledgeable.

@Velvetandleatherno you didn’t! But I know trolls like you enjoy doing that for their own amusement 😁

If people are losing it fast you can guarantee it’s muscle loss as well as fat loss. My sister didn’t listen to the advice of our friend who’s a personal trainer and has literally lost loads of muscle, her arse looks ridiculously flat and I’ve noticed this happen to a few people.

You do know being abusive does not help you look credible,right.