Two dead at Aintree already and we haven’t had the main event

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Horrible pictures of the horse with the broken back and now another one has gone. Both put down. Stop this barbaric sport

Worse crimes in non stun slaughter

YABU for not including the word "horses" in your title.

Please tell me that you are a troll.

Are you really suggesting that when something does something (especially when it is physically harmed when it doesn’t) that constitutes as consent??

I really hope you don’t have pets or children.

I love it and will continue to love it no matter what anyone says. Fully expecting pelters for that! I have seen how well these horses are looked after and they are actually doing something they love! You can't make a horse do anything if it doesn't want to.

Those who want it banned...how are you going to do it if you were in charge? What are you going to do to the thousands and thousands of horses across the country that would no longer be able to do what they do?

It would be hypocritical to be against child trafficking and happily use prostitutes who are also trafficked. On the same thread, it would be hypocritical to be against horse racing, yet happily support the meat industry,
they are two horrible sides to the same coin.

No one is obliged to watch. Many people understand the risk - as mountaineers understand the risk and leave their families behind. No high value, high risk sport is without casualties and horses are not people.

Not sure I understand your argument here - the horse doesn't get to gauge the risk; and the jockey is not the one who gets his back broken

The risk is all on the horse

I don't understand the 'they're bred for it' argument at all. So we can treat intelligent, sentient animals however we like, and let them die painful traumatic deaths, as long as we breed them for it?

I agree!

And the pandemic showed us that virtual horse racing is completely possible if you really want to gamble

Spanish black bulls are specially bred for the bullring.

Certain breeds of aggressive chicken are bred for cockfighting in Philippines. They shred each other to bits in front of crowds of people.

Is it fine for humans to torture these animals because we bred them with precisely that in mind? Bizarre argument.

But no one on here is supporting any such thing.

No one on here has said, I want horse racing banned but I don’t want the meat or fur industry etc banned.

bollocks

These beautiful animals are treated like kings until they get a bullet between the eyes because they can't make any more money.

We really are an awful species.

'They wouldn't jump if they didn't want to'

I'm pretty sure the wee man on their back hitting them with a whip plays a part.

It’s about power. We do it because we can do it and because we have been doing it for centuries. That normalises it.

Horses run in herds. They move as a group. They simply can do no other..

So remove the whips and jockeys. Line up the horses at the start, give them a scare/command/prompt and they'll all start running together. The railings will keep them safely inside the course. They will gallop, go over all the jumps and finish the course of their own free will. Right?

Why do they need whipping and steering over jumps then?

Yeah, how come whenever I go past a field with horses in they're just standing there munching grass?

Yes but all of those things are wrong , how can anyone be on the fence about animal cruelty .

A horse owner who used to work on NH race yards here and I say there need to be big changes, I can’t watch anymore.

You're not going to help change things by deliberately seeking to create a narrative that abusing an 11 year old is no worse than a 32 year old.

Same with the horses (or whaling, the fur trade, etc) - having a go at people who want those to stop because there is no difference between that and having two boiled eggs for breakfast in the Vegan Eye is not going to encourage anybody to consider changing laws or their own diet.

Utter crap aswell as bollocks .

How many posters eat meat vs are against the horse racing industry? You should start a poll and get back to me.

The point is that a previous poster said that if humans died at the Olympics, then the Olympics would be banned. I am merely pointing out that humans do die at many sporting events, and those events are not banned. So that particular argument is rendered redundant.

They are not well looked after. They lead grossly unnatural lives because they are too expensive to be allowed natural lives. Being kept in racing condition is also mot natural.
Producing horses which are "bred" to do this is not justification for making them do it. A horse has no concept of what horse raving is. They would not choose to endanger themselves. Also being bred to do the job has also lead to extreme in breeding and extremes of body shape in search of a faster horse. This physiology of itself is not healthy for the horse.

You can wonder all you like.
That has no relevance to this thread.