Irritated that families on UC get heavily discounted entry

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feel very aggrieved this afternoon to find out that people on UC get heavily discounted entry to popular attractions:

London Zoo
London transport museum
science museum wonderlab
Cutty Sark
kew Gardens
St Paul’s cathedral

As a mum with a professional career, with both husband and I working full time, paying a mortgage, paying a fortune in childcare for 2 under 4’s I seriously despair! From experience of people I see around me, families on UC seem to have more disposable income than us as their rent is paid, have no childcare costs and all their costs subsidised on social tariffs etc.

why is the government getting away with this and why are more middle class/income people not up in arms about it! At the moment I can’t see how us working hard and being self sufficient has benefited us as a family.

No it did not. That was your wrong interpretation of what I posted. I think I know better than you if I had more than one flat at the same time. You got it wrong. I suggest you own that

If you own a house outright you can still get UC, say for example you inherit your parent’s house, or spouse dies and mortgage is paid off. You just don’t get the housing benefit aspect of UC. It is better for the government to keep you in a house with no rent rather than forcing you to sell and put you in rented or council housing when there is a shortage. But if you are poor then you still need a top up to live.

There are people on this thread who won't be happy until minimum wage workers and the disabled are living on the street starving to death. How many times do we have threads where people on here are claiming they are earning 100k a year and are struggling to afford to live yet you begrudge people working minimum wage jobs getting a couple of hundred pounds top up a month to actually survive.

Activate Essex is a holiday playscheme near here that runs holidays clubs and activities. Free for the kids who are eligible. Basically UC . So even if you got £10 a month UC then the free holiday club saves a shitload. Then the money saved on days out. I'm sure there's other stuff . But even those 2 are worth far more than the extra money the similar income family who don't get UC earn

Not mine. Five pounds discount

Let's be clear: these discounts primarily benefit the children of less well-off people. It's not the children's fault that their parents are hard up. We were hard-up when I was a child and I had so very, very little compared to children of wealthier families.
I wouldn't begrudge the children of poorer people a few cultural experiences.

Literally couldn’t care less about this.

According to you OP, if I earn enough not to give a shit, does that mean I am working harder than you? Or somehow better and my children more entitled to a nice childhood?

Because that’s what you think about the children of those on UC.

I assume many people have mentioned that most UC recipients work - not RTFT.

I misread. Chill out.

That doesn't feel significant to you?

Almost three quarters of UC claimants are either in work or considered unable to work due to illness, disability or caring responsibilities. That leaves 25% who are not working but could.

So not the majority of claimants at all. I suggest you check your facts using actual data rather than the Daily Hate.

You missed one word there. Sorry I misread. Corrected that for you

In the same manner though you could argue that people think everyone not receiving UC is the same, and are able to afford everything without help. In reality things like housing costs (whether renting or otherwise), bills, council tax, dental bills, prescriptions all add up. Also, in the case of families, full time workers are very often time-poor, whereas (on average) people receiving more in UC will have more spare hours in the week. That goes a long way to raising happy children. Many children from working families would be lucky to pick their parents of a police lineup, they see them so rarely.

You can agree people shouldn't be left to starve to death (as any sane person would) but also agree that people dont necessarily need a discount to the fucking cutty sark because they're on benefits

As I said, mine doesn't.

Well maybe when you have fuck all - no not really. Hope that helps.

My town does not even have a pool

I will also say, families from deprived areas are less likely to visit these attractions as they feel out of place (wonder why). I remember giving a local very deprived school a family trip to a Science Festival. Free tickets, booked their shows, had helpers on hand, bus to venue. The head teacher had to go door to door because so many parents didn’t show, and they were petrified when she didn’t join them on the trip. It was too scary for them and they felt out of their depth.

But how does it effect you.

Wild.

Makes zero sense. But ok. Your discount isnt big enough i get it.

Also "hope that helps" isnt the mic drop you think it is

I agree. There will always unfortunately be people that just miss out, that’s just how it is with a cut-off mark. It doesn’t mean everyone should have it taken away.

You do realise that most people receiving UC haven't always received UC? I've only received it for 2 years and would give anything to have my old life back. It was certainly better than this life, even with £1 zoo tickets.

Could you provide a link for this statistic, please? I work for a local authority and have seen conflicting information..

Mine doesn't either people keeping naming all these things you apparently get free on uc. Unless you live in a big city with lots of facilities you really don't. I get absolutely nothing apart from the universal credit as a top up for low wage

The fucking cutty sark is run by an independent charity not the government. A charity offering a discount has no impact on you whatsoever.

Same I've been on it for 5 years prior to that i worked full time for 20 years paying into the system. People seem to forget there life can change in an instance