AIBU to feel uneasy about male staff in nurseries?

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Males working in my cbildrends nursery- makes me feel so uncomfortable
Why would a male want to work in a nursery? Most nursery abuse cases are men.
Men shouldn't be allowed to work in nurseries? AIBU

It would be better to compare like to like.

why would a woman want to work in senior management positions,

Compare a man who wants to work in a nursery with young, non verbal babies for a meager pay check is clearly a very different hypothesis to a woman seeking to work in senior management roles.

This has recently been debated in Australia where they found a disproportionate number of male pedophiles were drawn to childcare.
I can't post links as am on the Tube with dodgy Wifi, but anyone interested can Google.

But she didn’t intend to kill her otherwise it would’ve been murder not manslaughter
Whereas sexually abusing them, the intention is very clear, one cannot accidentally sexually abuse a child. Does that need saying?

Right - she didn't intend to kill her. Not sure that's much comfort to the parents

Nobody is saying women don't abuse kids. We are saying men are more likely to commit sexual abuse.

I agree. She did intentionally ignore her, be rough with her and generally neglect her.

Banning men would largely prevent any risk of sexual abuse but what about the risks of other types of neglect and abuse that happens in nurseries?

Yes I think some proper analysis and reasearch needs to be done here too. If it does transpire to be the case then actually I think given the incredible vulnerability of such young children it could definitely be argued under the equality act that there was a reasonable exception for nurseries to be allowed to only employ female staff for intimate care / direct care of the youngest children.

My fear that this type of thing could be becoming more common because of images of child abuse being available online and abusers disseminating information and ideas about how to do things like get jobs at nurseries.

I saw the case pop up on my Facebook this morning oddly enough - the details are terrible

By that logic it would be better if they were just sexually abused. At least they’ve survived.
Madness

Having worked in nurseries in a operational capacity rather than a caring one peering through the window so to speak
I am amazed there aren’t more deaths. It is literally testament to how robust children are that they survive some of the day-to-day behaviours.

Do we even know what proportion of nursery staff are male?

Where did I say that? Please don't put words into my mouth

2-3%, according to the DoE.

"All this 'he was far better than the female nursery workers!' schtick gets on my nerves."

I've worked in nurseries for 30 years. Are male workers better than female ones? In some ways, yes. All the men I've worked with all had one thing in common. They all wanted to work with children.
But everybody in childcare want to work with children don't they?
You'd hope that was true, but it's really not. If you've ever worked in childcare you would have met more than a few staff who have just fallen into it. Unmotivated lumps who their careers advisors told to go into "hair or care". If you were to ask them "why childcare?" they'd probably say something like "I dunno really. Sumthink to do innit".
It is harder for men to get a job in childcare. You only have to read Mumsnet. A while ago there were 2 threads running. One basically said that 'all men in childcare are paedophiles' and the other said that 'all paedophiles should be killed.' If you still want to do a job when there is a risk from people who don't think you should be doing it you must be pretty enthusiastic and dedicated to it.
And that applies to female mechanics and pilots, gay footballers, black police officers etc

@Mysterian you’re not wrong. I’ve come across staff in the toddler room where the toddlers had the higher IQ.
However, that does not circumvent the risk being discussed.

Which one. Noah or Genevieve?

I've worked in nurseries for 30 years. Are male workers better than female ones? In some ways, yes.

So the handful of men you've worked with are all better than the dozens of women you've worked with? I doubt it!

I take exception to these poor analogies. Black police officers are not statistically more likely to.assault women..
Female pilots are not more likely to crash planes.
Female mechanics are not more likely to wreck cars.
But by every statistical measure, men of all races are more likely to commit sexual crimes. 98% of them are commited by men.

I’ve come across staff in the toddler room where the toddlers had the higher IQ

What a shitty thing to say.

True though

What the actual
fuck am I reading - didn’t mean to kill the child? Strapping her face down on a beanbag - going against all safe sleep guidelines ! Like it’s shocking and I don’t really believe she didn’t intend to cause harm! Actual psycho this woman and it’s on of the worst stories I’ve seen !

Genevieve

It wasn't me that said she didn't mean to kill the child

I'm saying that all the men wanted to work in childcare, and not all the women did.

Your posts are coming across as very critical towards people on low income jobs

I have done more than one low income job in my life out of necessity. I have two post grads and I'm just about to finish my third BA. Being in a low paid job has nothing to do with someone's IQ