AIBU to think school street restrictions and PCNs will cause more chaos?

[Whatabouttheparcels]

a council near me are introducing school streets to stop congestion outside schools which is a great idea. They are introducing permit parking great

what this means in reality is hundreds of houses aren’t allowed any deliveries, no taxis and no none essential building workers in the area every school workday between 8am and 9.30 and 2.30 and 3.45

A permanent career can get a pass but not random district nurses etc. imagine telling delivery firms they can’t deliver at these times or they will get a PCN. Anyone saying they should use lockers, my last delivery was a dishwasher

AIBU in thinking this is a stupid idea and school traffic will just park a bit further away and this will cause chaos?

https://www.salford.gov.uk/parking-roads-and-travel/school-streets/frequently-asked-questions/

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what this means in reality is hundreds of houses aren’t allowed any deliveries, no taxis and no none essential building workers in the area every school workday between 8am and 9.30 and 2.30 and 3.45

That sounds insane, OP. It should surely be possible for builders to get an exemption. My town has strict parking restrictions everywhere but the outskirts, but builders can get permits fairly cheaply (used to be 50p per day, so probably £1 now) if they can show that they're working locally.

And not being able to get a taxi is just mad. Supposing you need one for a hospital appointment or to catch a flight?

This is the problem, if drivers didn’t behave like this, schools streets wouldn’t be needed if 30 odd drivers at each school could behave.

or councils put steel bollards in as prevention measures, but still those drivers would behave badly

so this is where we are

Are there any businesses within the designated area? I wonder how the school will get deliveries?

School trips and school dinner deliveries will be a pain.

So no different to now, as ithe chaos is preventing all this now. At least with school streets those children walking, scootering will be able to do so safely

How will it affect staff? Where about children/ parents who are disabled ?

I lived on a school street, delivery drivers did just park elsewhere and drive, this is the norm in so many places and very much part of reality.

I live on a narrow street where there are more cars than off-street spaces, so cars parked all along one side. Delivery drivers just block the street while they make their deliveries.

I've never heard anyone moaning about it, tbh. There was a bit of to-ing and fro-ing the other week when an ambulance was blocking the road for ages, but everyone managed to turn in the road, go round the block and drive in from the other end.

It makes it much easier for those with disabilities as their parents/carers can get exemptions. My friend, who has MS often struggled to get parked in the disabled spaces by our school prior to our zone coming into effect. If she did challenge people she would get loads of excuses- I’m only stopping for a minute, I’ve got a disability as well (without a badge!) and sometimes people would move - but who wants to be challenging that constantly, arguing why your need is greater. It’s not an issue anymore.

My sib lives in a development with heavily restricted access (due to specifics of location not schools). Deliveries have to be booked in advance and only allowed on certain days/times. Once you know the rules, it is pretty simple and everyone copes.
Amazon etc just have a wheelie bin affair and trundle up with all the parcels for everyone, parking just outside the zone.

I hope your council has taken proper advice, OP or they could end up like Lambeth.

West Dulwich low-traffic neighbourhood (LTN) unlawful, High Court rules - BBC News https://share.google/jVMfTF1UsXcXui7xe

This is dreadful if it means - as you say - that for example my elderly relative who has four care visits a day would potentially have their service disrupted and the carers fined. Is that really the case? If so, that's outrageous and should be challenged.

We have plenty of school zones set up near me. Deliveries are more tricky but if we know visitors or tradespeople are coming, we can give them a day permit on the app. Works well.

For children with disabilities it will make there life easier, as there parents will be permitted to drive through and due to others being prevented / this will leave easy ample parking