To judge parents who do not even tell their children Easter is a religious festival

[Tuliptana]

I'm shocked that 12 out of 20 children in my childs class had no religious knowledge of the meaning of Good Friday or Easter Sunday for Christians.
All aged 9yrs old.

Maybe you should read it again using some comprehension skills ?

Ireland is also a multicultural, multifaith and no faith country these days, whether you like it or not. Kids not knowing about Easter signifies to me that it has moved on significantly from the country that was under the thumb of the Catholic church. A positive thing.

You can say what you like, because it could well be true. Some atheists seem to be very self-serving.
There has certainly been a huge demand for Irish passports recently.

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/02/24/irish-passport-applications-from-uk-hit-post-brexit-peak/

My 4 year old asked what Easter was. I didn't want to tell her the Christian version, so instead I told her the pagan origins, that it's a festival of spring, rebirth and the end of winter. After all, this celebration has been around ages before the Christian version.

I celebrated Eid in my own way, by baking a cake for my Muslim colleagues (and non-muslim colleagues!) to enjoy at work.

It doesn't matter. The animals die soon after.

And, once again, very very few people care about the animals before the point of slaughter.

People happily eat caged eggs used to make a cake at the local fete, don't check the provenance in their burger at their friend's BBQ, don't bat an eyelid at consuming milk when they order their latte from CostaBucks.

And then there's the vegans/veggies, tucking into tofu and drinking soya milk, ...they don't care that swathes of rainforests are being cleared for the increased global soya production etc

It's bizarre that the only time people seem to care is when someone mentions halal meat 🤔🤔🤔

Maybe you can explain what efforts you go to ensure animal welfare at all points of their life in the products your purchase and consume. And if you're vegan, what efforts you go to ensure you aren't eating soya products/bit milks etc that have been ethically grown and without destroying natural habitats etc.

I don't have to explain anything to you if you have basic comprehension skills.

It's all on the Vegan Society's website, so do your own research and educate yourself.

Oh so.. you don't then. That's obvious.

Nobody cares about animal welfare until someone mentions halal.

@tnorfotkcab
It doesn't matter.

Not to you maybe but I'm sure it does to the animal.

The animals die soon after.

It takes about 2 minutes for an animal to bleed out. That is assuming that the major blood vessels are severed.
Cattle are an anatomical anomaly in that they have a vertebrral artery. The vertebral artery lies close to and above the spinal cord, and will continue to supply blood directly to the brain, even if the major carotid arteries of the neck are cut, provided some cardiac output is maintained.

You think that 2 mins qualifies as "soon" ?
Try timing it and imagine what it would be like to be hung upside down by one leg, with your throat cut and your head in a drain for 2 mins while fighting for breath.

More uninformed garbage from someone who has probably never been near a slaughterhouse in their life.

All perfectly valid points, but it doesn't explain why you jumped straight to attacking Islam rather than mentioning in general religious faiths where non-stunned slaughter is practised. Like Judaism. You can't have it both ways.

@tnorfotkcab "Nobody cares about animal welfare until someone mentions halal."

And what proof have you got for that conclusion?

My children have learned about different religious festivals at school but keep your judgement to yourself. Your religious fantasies are about real as the Easter bunny. I’m just here for the bougie eggs.

What internet are you using that says Easter isn't linked to Eostre / Ostara?

Ooh I found an interesting article here;

https://www.christianity.org.uk/article/the-history-of-easter

Because.... They don't....

Majority of people won't ensure they are eating high welfare animals that have been looked after all their lives, they don't check the source of the eggs when they take a piece of cake someone made, no or do they care about the butter used in the roll they bought from a cafe they aren't ensuring that the animal that died for their sausage was well looked after. They don't actually care how the animal was slaughtered...
They just go "ohhhhhh what about the poor animals" whenever someone mentions halal..

@tnorfotkcab Because.... They don't..

Well that's a very erudite and comprehensive explanation for your post.

A small word of advice - you may want to brush up on that next time you go to a debating society 🙄

Jesus wasn’t born on December 25th either , yet here we are. They are all dates picked for various reasons by man and decided and changed by man to suit whatever was going on. It is all symbolic .Faith or no faith, it’s not a hard concept to grasp.

Again, it's two minutes. Then they die.
Also, if people truly cared, they would check everything up to that point... And people just (generally) don't do that. They wang on about the inhumane 2 minutes, but don't care at all about the life leading up to it. They eat a bacon and egg roll not caring the pig kept in a concrete pen with overcrowding, standing in their own filth for months or the sow that bore them, and that the chicken literally lived in a cage with dozens of others chicks with no more than an A4 piece of paper space each. They don't care about the cows that were forcibly inseminated, their calves removed and then milked dry to make the butter for 4-6 years.

People only care when someone mentions Halal... Then all of sudden they're animal welfare experts and really really care.

Yesz but the celebration is linked to paganism... Faith in Christ it not.

Oh okay. So you're saying that EVERY person who cares about Halal meat and how terrible it is, is doing their due diligence in how the animals are being raised.... ? Of course they aren't, and you know it, otherwise you'd be able to show me something that counters that statement.

You probably don't even do that and probably eat animal products. And if you don't eat animal products, you most likely don't know where your nuts/soya etc come from. And don't know if they came from the rainforests that are being cleared for soya production etc. you wouldn't prove it then... And now you still won't. Because you don't....

So, yes, people only care about the animals when someone mentions Halal. They do not care about how the pig was raised or the cows or the chickens or the love transport of lamb across the seas etc

Paganism, Passover, Julian calendar, Gregorian calendar… does it really matter?

No because it's all just stories and traditions..no one way is correct. But people will get insistent that their way is the only true and correct way.... Hence this entire thread?

@tnorfotkcab You probably don't even do that and probably eat animal products.

^ that comment tells me you having been reading much of this thread, I have already said I am a vegan.

And now you still won't. Because you don't....

What on earth does that even mean? ^ Your rambling diatribes make no sense to me, so I'm done.

Have a nice day.

Ok. So where do you get your tofu from or your alternative milks etc?

Do you check the origin of your soya milk to ensure it isn't part of the huge swathes of rainforests being cleared for soya production?

(Or whatever food you eat)

Im guessing you don't know where it comes from, otherwise you would have told us that you indeed do know where your food comes from and that you.are certain that natural habitats aren't being cleared for production of the food you're eating.

Like I said, people don't care about the origins of their food really.